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Despise Revampand Siege?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Sprago, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Sprago

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    Was the question ever asked what of seige and the despise content how is it gonna work?(because they siad tram only on the publish notes
     
  2. Reth

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    Asked in another thread but no answer yet.
     
  3. Petra Fyde

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    #3 Petra Fyde, Aug 21, 2012
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    Thanks Petra.
     
  5. MalagAste

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    Well then how are you supposed to get the nifty arties from there? Can they be added to Cora then?
     
  6. Tjalle

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    Oh, perhaps someone with Tweeting abilities could ask them if they could add the new Despise artifacts in some other way on Siege.

    Maybe add them to the Covetous drops?
     
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  7. Reth

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    Ah, not what I wanted to hear. Guess I'll run the dungeon a few times on Cat :(
     
  8. Pinco

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    Probably would be better if they add trammel to siege (like mugen with pvp ruleset) so they will cut off thousands of problems...
     
  9. kelmo

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    *sighs*
     
  10. kelmo

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    No Pinco. Even a Trammel with a Fel rule set is not acceptable to me. We already have too much space.
     
  11. Revvo

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    Definitely agree with Kelmo i am quite happy to not have this on Siege, the artifacts dropping in some other way would be nice but not a huge issue if they don't. Lets face it truth is by not having this we will probably just have less bugs on Siege in than prodo shards :)
     
  12. MalagAste

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    I think adding them to Cora is not a bad idea.
     
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    so they arent giving seige anything in this patch but a lame casino that's ********. totally neglected they publish to the whole game but the siege perilous shard thats just messed up
     
  14. sativa green

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    more alarming evidence these developers do not care about siege and really care less about felucca itself. this is why many players who are pvp driven have simply left the game.

    it's turning into a trammel-based grind that doesn't take ANY skill or provide challenge.

    the original creators of UO are most likely cringing at the idea of the directon this legacy of a game is heading.
     
    #14 sativa green, Aug 22, 2012
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    We the players of siege will not recieve the new dungeon revamp. WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP WE DESERVE BETTER its not like im are asking for special treatment we just want to be included when they think of new content.
     
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    im sure they care about pvp and seige if not they wouldnt have spend time messing around with factions and pvp arenas an such.Despise was bound to pose a prob for dungeon revamping on seige due to champ. Are all 5 of u really gonna be That upset that u dont have changes to your champ dungeon?if they did it would prob just mess up that champ or make it a pain somehow.
     
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    All five of us? lol :rolleyes: Yeah though I can understand why they didnt do it because of the champ spawn. Still it does seem an oversight on their part. Though still like someone else said before I guess we may know why Mesanna was taking a sudden interest in seemingly helping Siege..because we are getting screwed out of some content lol.
     
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    i feel your pain on seige. maybe you can take solace in the fact that whenever they get around to adding the +5 you will probably have the ability to pvp for it.

    on prodo shards it will probably be some tram giveaway.
     
  19. sativa green

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    the disregard for siege is blatant slap in the face to the players who have actively made it their home for the past years and further deters future prospects from coming as they seem to just ignore our shard publish after publish.

    adding housing does nothing for current siege players other than brings the hope that people will come try our shard knowing they can keep their home shard house and in actuality seems like an after-thought when putting in this new dungeon revamp.

    i'm guessing the conversation went something like this...

    "what's next to revamp?"
    "DESPISE!!!!"
    "they have a champion spawn there, don't they?"
    "it's okay, we'll put in in trammel only!!!!!!!"
    weeks go by...
    "crap, what about siege?"
    "do people play there?"
    "let's give them something they've been asking for for years!!!!!"
    "a secondary house for players who don't play siege!!!!!"
    "problem solved!!!!!!!!!"

    moments like these just display the disconnection between current developers and the game PAYERS themselves. earn your paychecks and actually take into consideration changes that would better the game, not worse.
     
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    I cant speak for Siege, but all pvpers i know are happy Fel Despise isn't being touched. It is in fact thoughtful of the Devs to NOT change Fel Despise on shards.
     
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    The other option would be to take a page from the shadowlord event and the Trammel Khaldun event, and create a "second Despise" (using the unused-on-Siege space for Trammel) that is accessed only through a Fel-side copy of the Wisp, and exited through teleporters at the Despise-copy's Wisp back into the main area of Siege. you'd only be copying a dungeon, not the entire Trammel facet, using resources that mostly already exist.
     
  22. Tazar

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    From what I am seeing - I think it is more of an issue that the Despise content was not designed for a PVP environment. You train up your armies only to get PK'd by a stealthy killer... kinda defeats the purpose of the armies and the battle/contest doesn't it?
     
  23. Mesanna

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    Sorry guys for the late response on this topic...the design that Phonix and Kyronix came up with will not work on Siege. I am sorry to say we would have to design a new dungeon just for you guys and we don't have time right now. What we are going to do is add the artifacts that you would normally find to Cora. This will only be for Siege though.
     
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    Thank you
     
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    Would it also be possible to get the artifacts from the spawn in Covetous level 3 as well as from Cora?
     
  26. Pinco

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    there are several possible alternative than adding the whole map if the space is the problem.
    For example they can place a gate near fel despise that brings on trammel despise (always with pvp rules) and block the exit, and here we have 2 despise and 1 map :p
     
  27. kelmo

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    Thank you.
     
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    Yes we have added that on Siege.
     
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    Awesome, thanks a lot for the reply :)