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Dev-Team: Castles any chance ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Der Rock, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. Der Rock

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    any chance in the near future that we can style the inner side of our castle as we like?

    castles are so unpracticle,i would love it to restyle the inner side :)
    the border walls can be the same, but inside.

    yes we can, say it, YES WE CAN ;)
     
  2. ejpeters

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    I would like to see a few different set designs. We could have a contest to find a couple of good designs that could work.
    I would like them to work as it would when you recustomize your home.
     
  3. Wilde1

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    be nice to give keeps this option too
     
  4. Fireman Sam

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    a great idea, even letting us recall back in would be nice
     
  5. Der Rock

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    i would be happy if they made the inner room bigger and remove the inner yard
    its so unneeded.
    or if we could have that house they showed the heritage items on test,that house was cool :)

    and i hate the castle walls and flor, to dark. i love marble :)
     
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    I guess it could be a problem that many castles are placed on top of things that cant go under a normal house.

    The inner yard is not part of the house when you try to place it, so you can have trees and all sorts of obstacles in the yard.

    So you cant just turn it into a 32*32 custom house :)
     
  7. ACB1961

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    agreed
     
  8. ACB1961

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    Keeps are my favorite house in uo. I don't even want to complain now that we can use the roofs, and we can put teleporters in. I'd like to change the design of my keep, but castles are seriously messed up. They are pretty much just wasted space with the design they have. It's like marrying a beautiful person that's an idiot.
     
  9. Yalp

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    Oh yes yes yes.. and when you do that, please increase the storage capacity for customizable houses to be the same as castles/keep!
     
  10. jradar71

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    I love this idea.... I personally hate my castle and will drop it to the ground when I decide to change shards. They are completely a pain to organize and have no really good areas for the typical designing that most players like to do with their homes.

    Atleast the keeps have a good design that is functional and separate areas for building small shops (smithing, tailoring, etc..).
     
  11. legendsguy

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    how bout if you choose to make an eyesore known as a keep or castle, you don't get to do anything except throw your trash in it? that's the best thing. why should you guys get mega-storage space AND the ability to customize it? you want something that isn't an eyesore, make an 18x18!

    alright, so you were lucky enough to get a castle--or more likely you paid out the ass--that entitles you to everything a normal char gets and more? well maybe i want a castle then. where's my castle?
     
  12. Thangorodrim

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    I don't think any development time should be allocated to castles.

    Convert your castle to 18 x 18.... problem solved.
     
  13. irux

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    MAKE EA SOME MONEY, Sell us a code from your website, where an engineer or dev locks your acct and converts the castle / keep into a customizeable plot. deleting any trees in your court yard, which im told is the reason that castle and keeps, towers are not customize able becuase of the hollow areas in the court yards walls and under the tower wings. personally id be willing to even pay like 30 $ for this code like a mini expansion for castle owners.
     
  14. Tazar

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    This has been suggested before... I do not have time to look them up, but there was a contest a while back on the homes and castles forum that came up with some GREAT designs. :)
     
  15. Lady Michelle

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    We have been given carpet, and teleporters.
    I think we would have a better chance of getting a dye tub that lets us dye or stain our large tower, keep and castle walls. the dyes would be selective dyes that you would buy from an npc that can only be used on the dye tub. Also I could go for wallpaper to be able to use on the inner walls.
     
  16. Corpse

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    I wouldnt mind if instead of making it customizable,at least letting us change the look of castles.

    Example: With a custom house theres the option for "change foundation style"
    you can change the default stone border to many different colors and options.

    So How about a option for Large Towers, Keeps, Castle's To change the old nasty (brown?) stone into a choice of many selections..

    Nice blackrock stone Castle,
    Crystal Castle..( I dont like the crystal tiles but some might..)
    Marble Castle.. The list goes on..
     
  17. Exactly. If you want to customize it, drop the behemoth land hog and get a customizable 18x18 space. Sure you'll lose tons of storage space, but there are times when you should sacrifice to get what you want.

    If you want to continue with denying other players housing spaces so you can keep you Elton-John-Pinball-Wizard-Size-Footprint vanity "eyesore," well then you are gonna have to make the decision to forgo customization.

    Everybody wants to have it all. I think Castles and Keeps need to be abolished. It'll go a long way to stop our "wildernesses" from looking like downtown Chicago.
     
  18. Viquire

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    Truth be told here, I've seen plenty of hideous customizable plots.

    I'd love for there to be some way to do something different, especially with keeps, but the recent addition of teleporters and transport stations leads be to believe these designs are here to stay for the foreseeable future.

    Now, if we could just get deco back to working as it did a few days ago, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.
     
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    marble castle or sandstone would be kool or maybe new design, but no 32x32 plots and you cant make current castles customize becasuse of trees that are in keeps and castles i was thinkin ok a new castle, ork base with a moat and draw bridge that would be sweet
     
  20. Der Rock

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    :coco: :lol:
     
  21. Der Rock

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    :lol:

    i have 3 18x18 and 1 castle , and btw i placed my castle self :lick:


    how about that : all no castle owners and have nots: get out of this thread :lick:
     
  22. jfkeach

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    I agree. I love my castle, and yes, I paid out the posterior for it. I have had 4 keeps in game, and I love their design better, but love the storage and size of the castle.

    No, I can see why they dont let you customize the castle. However, there are some things I would like to see change.

    Teleporters - Great idea, Yay Team, but Im not 12 years old (account wise). I have to wait another before I could place these in my castle. I don't think these should only be a vet item, but should be the only modification you can do on the castle. Place a teleporter tile that will take you to a matching tile elsewhere in the castle. You can remove the ability to take you to a linked tile in another house just for the castles and keeps. But make this an option on the homeowners menu or a command like placing a trash barrel. Nothing too fancy.

    Im organizing and redoing my castle. I secured 120 bags on the roof to help with that. Now that i am sorted, I have to run up the stairs load the four packies, and back down to where I am putting stuff. Its a PAIN to keep going up and around. I have to have commodity deed boxes upstairs and in each room where I am setting up a smithy, a mage shop, a carpenter shop, and an alchemy shop within the castle.

    Recalls.. I miss the old days where you could recall into your courtyard. I think they should put that back in. If you mark a rune while in the outer walls it takes you outside to the front steps. If you are inside the center room and mark rune, it should mark the rune right out that door into the courtyard. If you are concerned about security, make that an option on the homeowners menu you can toggle on and off.

    The last thing I would ask for is allow us to lock down Furniture and plants in the courtyard. Make it count towards total lockdowns, but let us put a garden in there, or the horse bardings and hitching posts.

    I would like to say Bravo Zulu for the Carpet tiles. WOOHOO....Thanks. Great Job.
     
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    I am counting the days (112) to get my House to House gate!!

    Just say no to clicking my open door macro 3 times!!
     
  25. jfkeach

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    WoW! I was against letting us customize castles until i went and looked at the entries. WoW! I guess I don't have a creative bone in my body but those look good.

    Seriously, give us teleporter tiles we can use before turning 12 years old, and yes, I like the idea of just let us pick wall Types. My castle is on ICE isle. I think that it would rock to have it made from Marble. WOOHOO! I like that idea.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but while you must be a 12 year vet to "claim" the house-2-house teleporters It is my understanding that any account may place and use the teleporters. How you come by them is your business.

    As to customization of Castles, keeps and Towers... I like the idea above of a wall/design option that would allow the owner to change the foundation and type of "material" used in the construction, but that is all.
     
  27. S.P.A

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    At least with the new House Teleporters, you can teleport into your Castle's interior from another property you own - that's a major step towards what we used to be able to do!
     
  28. It Lives

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    I love the Idea, now if my other homes can receive 5000+ lock downs lets do this thing.
     
  29. DevilsOwn

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    I've never been an advocate of fully customizable castle-sized plots, but two, three or even four designs for the homeowner to select from for a keep or castle would be just perfect for me.
     
  30. Vivacia

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    :lol:Heck........just give me a mobile home or RV I can pull with my beetle!
     
  31. Wilde1

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    This was a valid argument years ago when housing space was at a premium. Most shards now have vacant 18x18 spaces (at least they're plentiful on LS). Hard to view something as a "land hog" when there is plenty of unused housing space available.

    Also, where in the world do you get the logic that "you should sacrifice..?" I mean, I already have a grandpa that walked to school 10 miles in a blinding snowstorm uphill both ways. I'm fairly certain the game doesn't need you to tell us what we "should" do ;)
     
  32. There's no such spaces on Sonoma. Sure, there's plenty of spaces for the little 5x5 outhouses, but there sure as hell isn't much space for 18x18s just available everywhere. Your mileage may vary of course.

    Young'un, I played when this game first came out. And back then, we didn't have all these fancy weapons. I saved up for two years just so I could buy a featherduster. My miner worked for 15 hours to get one dookie ingot, and we were killed by a gazillion PKs several times a night because they would fly overhead every 15 minutes and drop 10 killatons of whupass on us all. The GMs only answered your pages to kick you in the balls and steal your lunch money, and rabbits hit for 5,000 points.

    But we were THANKFUL for what we had.
     
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    The teleporters are a nice step in the right direction, but it´ll take some months for me.... 37 to be exact *sighs*

    But having 3 different castle layout you could choose from, would be really great!
     
  34. Infiniti

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    Just how does a castle or keep look like downtown Chicago..do you have them there? UO is supposed to be from a time long gone as there are dragon's and what goes with dragon's but castles and keeps. Deny others housing space? You are kidding right? There is tons of room for tons of houses on UO now. :scholar:
     
  35. MalagAste

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    I keep saying that we need about 4 good choices to chose from for Castle and Keep designs... you could have something more Tokuno style... maybe something Trinsic style with sandstone.... marble... but just something that fixes all the wasted space issues with castles and keeps. I hate the current designs. Not that I want anything but the stone... but I want a better use of space.
     
  36. jfkeach

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    Really, I don't mind the wasted space. But I hate having to run all over the place to get something. I have to keep all of my chests in the main room downstairs, otherwise I would have to run all over to get, do, or find anything. Through this door, up these stairs, go outside, climb ladder, load packies, and navigated back down, with them getting hung up on a chest, corner or losing line of sight. Frustrating to say the least.

    I would like to select the wall type. Stone, Marble, Log Cabin, or the Frost stuff.

    Being able to lock stuff down in the courtyard would just be a bonus. Maybe a one tile perimeter around the central section. Thanks.
     
  37. Endrik

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    Sorry bud, but I play Sonoma as my main shard, and there most assuredly is PLENTY of space for 18x18s. Tram might be a little harder, but between Fel, Malas, and Tokuno, there are loads of available plots. If you are living out of a 5x5 in the shadow of a castle on sonoma, drop me a PM and I would be more then happy to help you find a spot for an 18x18... Im sure I can spare the 5 minutes it will take to look for and find a space.
     
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    I agree, 95% are hideous, and the other 5% arent much better.
     
  39. altarego

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    I beg to differ. My 17x17 plot is much more stylisher than most houses I've seen. It's also a living maze, with constantly changing themes. More of challenge than you're most likely to see in any dungeon - or be able to handle.
     
  40. maroite

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    I couldn't help but laugh at the OP and the people wanting customizable castles.

    Some people just aren't happy until they have it all.

    Ok that aside, I wouldn't mind castles and keeps being customizable if:
    A. They lose lockdowns/storage space based on how much is customized.
    B. The cost to costumize is in the hundred millions. It shouldn't be cheap at all to tear down stone walls and put up new ones on a castle size venture.

    Wow... "Because I have a castle I have more say than the next person..."

    Kinda hoping the devs ignore your entire post because of this elitest post.
     
  41. Endrik

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    I couldn't help but laugh when I read your post. Logically there is absolutely no reason that castles should not be customizable.

    The attitude of most of the people who oppose this is simply "If I cant have it then they cant have it." Allowing people to customize their castles does not hurt you at all.

    All customizable houses get increased storage as the plot size increases, yet they are not forced to sacrifice customization capabilities. There are a lot of people in this thread saying they would be ok with letting castles be customizable if they get the same storage in their 18x18s. Im sorry, but its not an "elitest" point of view that's in error here. Its the "entitled" point of view that more and more people are growing up with these days. Castle owners did not get their castles because they were born into them. They worked hard, and most played for many many years to be able to afford them. There is no reason that 18x18s should have the same storage as castles or keeps. Castles and keeps are bigger, and a hell of a lot more expensive. So they should be allowed more storage. This does not mean that they should have to "sacrifice" customization though. The sacrifice Castle and Keep owners make is in the amount they have to pay, and the time it takes to finally find one for sale.

    Castles and Keeps SHOULD NOT be charged more per tile as you suggest. There are more tiles in a castle so it will already cost a lot more. Do people who own 18x18s get charged more per tile then people who own 7x7s? Nope. So if you want to charge 100mil to customize a castle then you had better be willing to pay 50mil to customize an 18x18.

    Should an 18x18 have fewer wall and floor tiles then a 7x7 because it gets more storage and should have to sacrifice something? No. You pay more for it, and its harder to find a place to fit it then a 7x7 is. Same logic goes for castles and keeps.

    So lets stop complaining because someone asked for a castle to be customizable just because you guys don't own one. Having castles and keeps in this game is a good thing. They are rare, and very expensive, and that's a GOOD thing. It gives people something to work for. They SHOULD be customizable and SHOULD NOT have to sacrifice any storage. They are bigger and more rare then 18x18s, and they SHOULD have more storage then 18x18s.

    What we really need if for people to grow up and stop complaining that someone else has more then they do when that other person worked harder and longer for it. That's not an "elitest" point of view... that's life. If someone wants to work hard and save up enough to buy a castle and then wait long enough to find one for sale, then they SHOULD NOT BE PENALIZED. What we need is for people to stop thinking they are entitled to something they have not worked for. If you want it, got out and work for it.
     
  42. maroite

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    Or they scripted to place their castle? Worked hard? Most likely the OP paid some guy 400$ RL for a castle, seeing as he's running what 4 accounts?

    How is that "working hard"?

    Also how will it effect people? Lag, thats how. Have you ever ran through the area northeast of Brit, I like to call it "Castle Street" because thats all thats there, rows and rows of castles. Do you know how silly that looks? And how much lag it creates for some people? Now imagine all of those castles having customized looks, tons of decoration, and crap laying all over.

    How would it effect me? Regardless of what you assume, it would have an effect on me and other people.

    Also, I don't see why it shouldn't cost more. They worked "hard" for their castle, they could work harder for the ability to customize it.

    Anyway, this is a moot point to argue because unless they added larger customizable plots, or the dev team went bat-schmit insane, they would never devote time to something that would benefit what, 5% of the games population? lol

    Oh wait, but those people worked harder, so they deserve this as a reward for their hard work! ....... lol :loser:
     
  43. Rocklin

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    Caspian get your horse and come ride with me then, Sonoma has plenty of spots.
     
  44. Yalp

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    for the learning impaired... it's called S-a-r-c-a-s-m.
     
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    i want marble and sandstone castles and keeps !
     
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    People are truly complaining about castles? Wow Give me a gazillion lockdowns in my keep and let the lords and ladies who own the grand castles go ahead and customize them :)
     
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    I don't have a castle, but I definitely support the idea of customization. Castles are incredibly inconvenient to navigate. As it stands, were I given a choice between a castle and a keep, I'd take the keep.
     
  48. jfkeach

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    I saw the Video from The Guild... TOO TOO FUNNY
     
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    WOW.. I just read this and lost brain cells.. please if you cant speak english.. just speak your native language and ill use google to translate it.. most likely it'll come out better than whatever you just tried to say.
     
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    I'm sorry but this just cracked me the hell up! It's so so true lol Ahh the good ol' days :hahaha: