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Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players (SIEGE)

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Wolfman1604, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. Wolfman1604

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    Why?
    Simply because it is abused in a way it was never intended.
    How?
    Faction players use their monster ignore, then send in their pet, or cast summons, wait till the monster is dead, loot the keys or any type of loot, go do the peerless with the same procedure and are never attacked once.....
    So:
    They get the best loot with no risk to their char.


    I cannot believe that that was intended by the producers!!!!
     
  2. Rotgut Willy

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    I guess I'm missing something. How would a factioner use the faction-allied monsters to collect keys or kill peerless? Aren't the only faction-allied monsters Ogre Lords, Silver Serpents, Daemons and Wisps?

    I admit that I'm not entirely familiar with all of the peerless, but from what I understand there are only 4 faction-allied monsters. And aren't the monsters only allied in Felucca?

    Edit: I assume you meant the faction-allied monsters ignoring members of the same faction. If not, then I'm not sure what ability is being referred to that would be specific to factions.
     
  3. Flutter

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    What keys are you talking about? There's no where I can think of that you kill demons wisps silverserpents or orgre lords for keys to peerless.
     
  4. Taylor

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    *baffled*
     
  5. Rotgut Willy

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest the OP is mistaken and actually meant the Embrace Honor ability from the Virtue System.

    http://uo.stratics.com/content/virtues/honor.shtml
     
  6. Picus at the office

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    What about the Putrifier in Fel?
     
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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    You’re saying that Putrifier is unaggressive toward one of the factions?
     
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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    Even if he is that's only one key and only in Fel.
     
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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    Isn't the Putrefier a Balron, not a daemon?
     
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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    I think so.
    I am SL so I could go check but I'm too lazy.

    *waits for the OP to clarify*
     
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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    Nah, just throwing out a guess. Of all the possible options I can think of this was the only one that fit.
     
  12. Merion

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    Maybe this is somehow about dryad allure and ogre lords - still I can't think of a way to exploit that to a significant amount.

    SL players have a slight advantage when raiding another faction who is doing Semidar during the demons level, but still...
     
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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    Maybe the OP is wrong.
     
  14. Nastia Cross

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    Another example of people jumping to conclusions without doing a little research first.
     
  15. Hoffs

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    I absolutely agree with the OP. It has been a complaint of mine for years. He is talking about PvPers using Holy Shield to do PvM with little or no risk. The ability is not used as it was envisaged, i.e. allowing faction players to do battle amidst monsters without said creatures interfering.
     
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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    This is another issue unique to Siege/Mugen. Add to your laundry list for discussion with Cal and company?
     
  17. Stupid Miner

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    ... Really need to note that this is about Siege Perilous and not production shards.

    Factions with the Hero/Evil system: http://uo.stratics.com/php-bin/show_content.php?content=30415
     
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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    Its been in use since factions inception many years ago and now you have an argument with it? Are you new to the server? lol. Its pretty damn sweet if you ask me. Besides, if your pet is agrod, monster does an area effect spell (which a lot of monsters do these days) and you swing and hit it.. well your shield is broken and you've become attackable again.

    Also, Hoffs, it doesn't make sense to allow faction people to fight amongst monsters. Once you hit your target the ignore is undone. Its pretty much a tamer only thing for avoiding monsters.

    I believe the true purpose was because of the inability to have more than one character. So if your one character was red, there was no way for you to create another character to use to invoke honor on and missing out on a whole facet of the game.

    I've been using monster ignore for 5+ years now and you, Wolfman, are the first person I've ever heard of to have a problem with it.. :(
     
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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    Also, why is it only pvpers using Holy Shield?


    lol, you people and your pvp hatred. Get off the shard if you hate pvp'ers so much. SOoooooooo sick and tired of hearing your pancakes and moaning over pvp this, pvp that. You either partake in the festivities or not... Its your choice. You either partake in factions and get the benefits or not... again its your choice.
     
  20. kelmo

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    Play nice...
     
  21. Hoffs

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    So sick and tired of you pancakes away too, pal. As I seem to have to state constantly, I have no problem with PvP. I encourage all types on Siege - unlike you. Holy Shield is just something that devalues PvM and is NOT used as intended. I actually do maintain a faction character to get the keys to one particular peerless, just like I use greater dragons on my tamers. But I would gladly see both of them removed. Remember, we play on the "hard" shard?
     
  22. G.v.P

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    Re: Developers please get rid of monster ignore for faction players

    Correct.

    This thread needs a (Siege) tag in title, lol.