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Devs can we please have a answer for the no more decaying houses??

Discussion in 'UHall' started by THP, May 20, 2008.

  1. THP

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    EDIT= appear to be decaying again as normal, maybe it was just a quite spot in the year...



    Okies a few posts have touched on this...

    Basically it seems there are no longer houses going into decay on any shard...well only the people that have bought new and there old one as gone into decay while they clear it out...

    Idocers are talking of the 90 day timer being reset for all houses on all shards, so in the event that any house that as not been paid for in the next 90 days WILL start to go into decay...

    Which brings us to the question really DEVS ...Are we going to have the big fall day 2 ..in approx 90 days time????
     
  2. JC the Builder

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    Didn't people say they wanted house decay to end? They got their wish.
     
  3. Salivern_Diago

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    I'm betting that the housing fixes reverted all houses to refresh to a 30 day timer (People keep harping on about the 90 day timer still in force, but I bet a bar that it isnt). If there is a big fall day coming up, then why havent the OSI's who are still cycling fallen yet?

    Sorry THP bud, but I think our wishes there will go unheard :(
     
  4. THP

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    Its def. 90 day timer matey!! nailed on...not 30..

    Well to be fair refreshing every house to the 90 day timer on every shard would be a real easy way for the devs to weed out the unpaid for ones....as if they aint paid for in the next 90 then they WILL now decay....That is!! if indeed the devs have done something to the housing server...it just seems strange that most shards were getting 2-3-4 fallers a day and now theres none!!

    And to the poster saying u got your just rewards!! lets hope so!! Theres so many unpaid for ,un-lived houses , including keeps and castles iam sure that have stiood for ever!! its about time they fell and there booty can drop into my chests were it will get some good use!! and there unused keep/castle can become my new home!!!
     
  5. Salivern_Diago

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    But has that been confirmed since Pub 52? There were alot of changes, and unless a DEV says otherwise no-one can rule that out. it should have been 30 days and with all the changes perhaps now it is 30 days.
     
  6. THP

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    Hence my good freind Salivern i ask the simple question...

    Re: Devs can we please have a answer for the no more decaying houses??

    Hopefully they will respond with the answer if it was meant to happen(or) if its happened by mistake, etc..

    ''Idocing '' is a playstyle in itself as u are well aware already!! that is enjoyed by many players, it would be nice to know what the devs have got planned/changed if anything??...for example do we stop trawling to fins decayers for 30-90 days if there aint gonna be any..etc etc..
     
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    Well, I was at an IDOC on Europa just yesterday, which collapsed as usual. Some houses are definitely still falling.
     
  8. Littleblue

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    I just found a home on Chessy that had just entered it's decay cycle yesterday.
     
  9. THP

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    Wonders if this was decaying already b4 the last publish??

    Or was it a house that someone had left and moved to a new one??

    Maybe iam wrong ..maybe they have just slowed down a lot, only i have talked with many idocers on diff shards too and most seemed to be in the same view as me???
     
  10. THP

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    Also bear in mind if someone buys a new home then obvoiusly there old home will go into the normal decay cycle, during which time most people empty there old decaying one then drop it b4 it goes idoc..or LOL ..leave the house standing and private with nothing left in it for the idocers to sit and get sod all..LOL
     
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    Yea I think more then anything THP is mortified another fellow idocer (myself cause I told Thunder the board warrior whom let it out early) might have came up with a pretty good answer to what has happened with the inactive account decay reset.

    No hard feelings mate this is what you wanted more then any of us but with anything in life it never goes exactly our way in ever detail.

    I know you really want conformation but I think we both know the Dev's will wait til there's no chance people could abuse this info.
     
  12. Jeremy

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    We've got some people looking into this - I'll let you know when I hear more.
     
  13. THP

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    Thanks Jeremy for the quick reply..would be nice to know if it is meant to be!! or just a cliche form the last patch...Hey i'am all for BigFall Day2 ... Not bothered if Idocs dry up for 90 days at all!! as long all those bugged unpaid for unused houses of all shapes and sizes finally decay once and for all!!!
     
  14. RepoMan

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    well all you would have to do is a character name search for the house owner at uo.com and if it comes up then the house is just decaying due to a new house being placed
     
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    I'm glad to see a lack of decay while the new housing changes settle in tbh. It's one thing to be after the loot and plots, but having fewer IDOCs during the transit makes sense to me. If there was a huge problem, with the usual flow of IDOCs, it would cause far more damage. I thought this was a deliberate measure by EA but apparently not :D

    At least you have a short holiday from camping IDOCs lol.

    Wenchy
     
  16. There was a ton of idocs on LA yesterday,


    3 Houses inside the Luna Walls Fell.
    4 tram Houses (think a keep also)
    3 places in fel.
    1 Tok

    and thats just what i know of. so houses are still falling.


    ~Blade
     
  17. Moby Grape

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    THP, good show on getting them to answer up there might be a problem here.

    But am worried about you saying, that you don't care about no falls for the next 90 days. No true IDOCer would ever think or say such a thing.

    Im having withdrawls after only one week without them.
     
  18. Restless

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    blade... the 3 luna houses and the tok house were all osi and were osi owned and decaying before the last publish, the tram keep was refreshed and was only decaying cuz another house was placed on that account... i didnt see any other tram houses on my walk, dunno about the fel ones...

    it is my assumption that messing with the "10 year code" caused another side effect and this one is the idocs have gotten a lil out of wack

    also, regarding a bid fall day, the wednesday before the last publish Lake Austin had 40+ houses fall within 2 hours of each other... normally LA has maybe 1-3 a day
     
  19. Moby Grape

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    Alright, who lifted the rock and let the creepy crawly out.

    Scumbag Maybe, Raf's Buddy No

    Another member of the 'I hate Moby Club', just because I'm sooo good at IDOCs and you cann't best me.
     
  20. Plucky Duck

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    Pwned.

    Also THP just did the shout to the rafters of the suspecions and theories of others. Maybe it was to totaly discredit his rivals (whom stuck there necks out and stated there theories of what happened) but good job on the foot stomping tantrem that got Jeremys attention about what allot of others had noticed and of which I suspected from the beggining as a inactive housing code reset.

    I do aggree though I will gladly wait three months so scum like Rafman cant be everywhere to scoop up all the prime real estate. Him and his underlings even if he uses his cohorts in the zerg guild he scuttles around with they won't get the lions share not that even if they did anyone with half a brain wouldnt ever believe anything any of them had to say.
     
  21. Larisa

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    Well we'll see.

    I posted this once before...I placed this house on one of my inactive accounts during the last WBtB promotion and put the date on the sign. It still stands to this day.

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  22. Well ... now that you "got an answer" ... :cool:
    What do you know ?

    Jeremy's reply :"We've got some people looking into this - I'll let you know when I hear more."
    does add some data
    Jeremy didn't see any FoF "speakable" note (or didn't remember) about anything directly related to "House decay"
    (wouldn't need anyone looking into it)

    Also, J's reply, heavily supports a "code snap" ... due to some OTHER published change ...
    Like Account ageing ... cause (come on) .... they ARE directly related.

    "The pub" was ww on or about 5 may ... so ... it is still "unknowable" >IF< there was a "reset" ... whether its was to 90 OR 30 days of grace ...
    :cool: stay tuned on and about 5 June ... to get the 30 (more preferable) day confirmation.

    Thanks to Larisa's Dated screenie ... even more support for some bizzaro "code snap" (or posters misinterpreted data) ...
    Is easily deduced ...

    so ... while we wait for Jeremy's return ...

    What do you Know ?
    :cool:
     
  23. MalagAste

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    I've seen a few homes decay and fall.... so some are working.... and when I traded a home and all my other house definatly went into decay.....

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  24. Azureal

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    The moment I placed my new home I got the message about my other home becoming condemned. Yes the timer started, the house sign suddenly read as ..."slightly decayed" but Im guessing that was forced due to the condemning and not the normal housing decay timer.

    I think people can start ruling out instances where houses are placed causing others to decay, cause unless someone tells me otherwise it seems these are two different systems.
     
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    Last few posts are talking about entirely diffent subject...

    Yes when u buy a new house your old house wil go into decay...some peeps will leave the houses and just empty them, make em private so Idocers sit them for no reward- fair play to em...others will drop there decaying house to get the house placement refund back!!!!

    Iam talking about houses in UO that have stood forever (bugged houses) that are unpaid for and unlived in for the last 8-9-10 years!!

    Yes the big fall day was supposed to have sorted this out ..But alas it missed a few..and quite a few too!!!...

    Hence the call to the Devs..if they already have not done it!!!

    ''Clean the housing server'' by refreshing every single house on every shard to the NEW 30 day timer...yes even houses that have started to decay AND the bloody OSI ones too!!!!.....Then if nobody pays for that account for that house over the next 30 days then that and every house that aint been paid for SHOULD go into the new decay cycle!!!!!
     
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    Exactly THP, like the one I placed. That account has not been paid for in WELL over a year, yet the house still stands. I am 100% positive that ALOT of houses were placed this way, which is why I only placed a 7x7 for testing purposes.

    I'm sure that now that the team is confident in messing with the decade-old housing *system* that we'll be seeing some nice changes, and those *illegally* placed houses will eventually start to disappear.
     
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    Well, THP, you were correct. The house I found on Chessy has a new owner today, and some new walls and deco, too. *grins*

    That's ok though....I'd rather see someone enjoying it than just another home falling to dust.
     
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    Please let us all know of any update Jeremy?
     
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    Okies Jeremy you posted that it was not intentional....

    Soooo any update of the question ???

    And if it was not intentional...Why not make it Intentional in p53???

    Simply refresh every house on every shard to the new 30 day timer...even if they are decaying or osi owned. Then surely in 30 days time if any house is not refreshed by paying for that account then surely all the old cbtb bugged houses, all the osi houses, and all the no name houses will finally fall!!!
     
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    There is no 30 day timer and no matter how many times you keep hoping or saying there is. It was never intiated and no matter how much you want to have you cake and eat it to bye having the whole houseing server refreshed and bye not having to waste youre uberleet time and have to wait out the current nintey day timer thats too damm bad.
     
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    plus the fix that you are asking for will only fix the wbb houses. I know you want to try and make it seem like they said otherwise but they have not. All the demo bending, owned bye osi or old school no named banned houses will not be effected bye the housign changes you are requesting.
     
  32. Olahorand

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    I imagine, this method would also kill some of the old seer blessed locations (if there are still any ingame).
    Also - if I see the housing situation on some shards I play more regulary, there are wide spots open on Drachenfels and Origin.
    I could also have placed an 18x18 Trammel plot on Chesapeake.
    Even on ATL it is possible to place medium sized houses (Sandstone with Patio, Villa) without searching too long also in Trammel.
    This shows, that there is no lack of housing any more, but an increasing lack of active and interested players.
    While I agree, that the most unused (=unpaid or old banned account) houses should fall, in the same context every active player should get the chance to own a second house on a different shard. Maybe even make a refresh for these secondary houses mandatory (which should be necessary all 90 days and work with the same rules like the old refresh, that also friends and coowners can do that refresh, but by opening the house sign instead of the door). So the primary house would still be fully protected and the secondary needs at least to be used.
    While an account owns a second house, he could be limited to the same rules like the current owners of grandfathered houses, that placing/taking a 3rd house would condemn both the primary and secondary house. Also placing a secondary house should enable the 7 day placement/trade timer without a chance to get rid of it besides waiting.
    *Salute*
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  33. Since it is a Holiday weekend here in the States, asking for an answer before Tuesday is useless. Wait until they get back to work and let them enjoy a nice long weekend.
     
  34. Moby Grape

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    Keep the Draconi flames burning below the Dev's chairs!

    Lets get a fix on that nasty IDOC Bug.

    If they think we are not watching, the priority will shift to making fluffy bunny welcome mats for the next turn in.
     
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    THP is out of his element. He may think he is the best with such a name you would think he would understand what he wants is not totally relate-able to the problem that has occurred.

    You would think he would understand the old seer houses are perma blessed structures and are part of player ran towns and should not fall.

    He should know the old no named houses are all from old banned accounts that have broken coding since aos was launched and didn't fall from the first time they implemented the same fix he is requesting now.

    He should know the owned bye gibberish letters housing mainly on LA are from a half butted promotion that never got off the ground with the aos launch and again these did not decay the first time they implemented the same exact fix he is requesting.

    He should know all the owned bye OSI houses are from a a few various vendor bugs and from player bannings plus contract bugs that the Dev's have never been able to and again none of these fell when they implemented the same exact fix he is throwing a temper tantrum over.

    He should stop making all of us idocers seem uninformed and greedy bye demanding things flippantly without having any concept of what it would take in coding and man hours for the Dev's to actually execute it. Anyone can say anything they chose but actually executing what is being verbalized is always always far more difficult.

    I would be happy and you should be as well if they just fixed what you wanted in the first place and that is the wbb houses what are static-ed.
     
  36. THP

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    Its all in the name plucky mate!!

    YOU stick to plucking ducks

    I WILL stick to placing top houses..

    Muahahhahahhhhhhhhhahahhaaaa
     
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    It seems houses are decaying like normal again????..it was possibly just a quite time in the year for decayers??? anyways all seems fine..found a few decaying today hopefully they are not just house movers!!!!
     
  38. Lord Richard

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    Probably only houses that were "lost" in the decay process were reset.

    I would imagine this would include the "Owned by OSI" houses amoung a few others.
     
  39. MalagAste

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    Well I for one would certainly like to see many of those houses fall.... there are dozens of homes on GL that perpetually refresh once they reach IDOC... Would be nice to see them fall...

    On the note of housing..... I for one would LOVE to see something implimented to allow for a second home on a second shard.... Or even just allowing 2 homes period second shard or no.... Though before they impliment something like that I think they should revamp how homes work..... with the issues of friend status vs Co-owner and things of that nature.... Perhaps bring about some way to "link" your accounts... As it stands right now it's difficult for people like me who have multiple accounts.... as a home has VERY limited slots for Co-owners I am forced to mearly "friend" my own characters so that my true "friends" in-game...... aren't allowed access to my home ...... Unless I set things for them to Guild but then I have to guild my houseowner..... and for the other characters I have they can't access those areas unless I guild all my characters ..... which would be totally insane.

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  40. Moby Grape

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    After a two hour run, thru areas that always produce decays, found zero. Maybe a few is normal to THP, but to me, a book full is normal.
     
  41. THP

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    Moby ......splurts coffeee all over the keyboard!!!
    I was just annoucing ive found a few decaying wereas last week i could not find any at all...my hay day as the best Idocer as long gone.. i aint got the time anymore..but beleive me.. !! omg !! no matter!!!...for one that started the genre i leave my empire to anyone that wants a piece of it!!!
     
  42. Moby Grape

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    Are we there yet???????
     
  43. Moby Grape

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    Been over a month now, can we have an ETIC on the problem?

    Has any Dev looked into the last major patch as being the carrier?

    The problem did surface, within days after publish, so they could be related.
     
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    Ive got 4 marked for decaying...pretty sure all 4 are not just movers,,,think they are decaying as normal again..
     
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    Just got 3 more so 7 decaying in my short run book on Europa...

    Seems to be back to normal...unless all 7 are simply movers which i doubt.