Thank you for the changes to PvP but you have created a massive emergency issue that must be addressed. The most growing and abused template is now: Gargoyle: 120 Throwing 120 Tactics 120 Anat 120 Healing 120 Resist 120 Ninja You run with 150-170 hp / 50-90 mana / 180+ stam in wolf form You can not be purged out of wolf form. You can not be para'd (with box). You can not be mana vamped. You laugh at Poison. You do not really use mana except to drop mirror images once in a while and the occasional dismount. You swing at max on all 3 throwing weapons. The regular damage is more than enough, no specials needed. The only viable templates to battle this template is a wrestle/parry scribe mage in protection. Good luck on that, as well. If you are on foot against this template, you are dead..period. If you fail to address this, there are going to be basically two types of templates in PvP. You were warned this would happen and chose to ignore the experience of those that actually play the game aggressively. Items to address: 1. Mystic MUST be able to purge Ninja forms. *How many times did we BEG you to turn that back on* 2. Drop base damage of the Glaive and the Cyclone. There was no excuse for this, now we have to count on you to repair the damage you have caused to happen. Please do so with all due haste. I both play and play against this template. It was wrong from day one on Test Center.