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DEVS PLEASE RESPOND, when will you delete RANK REQUIREMENT for faction items?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by slayer888, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. slayer888

    slayer888 Lore Keeper
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    Jun 28, 2008
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    Never will get a respond on this part.

    Why would you guys implement such as system so all pvmers people in trammel can wear all faction items and pvpers in felucca = have hard time wearing?

    Can you explain?

    So you are trying to say those who dont have time on hands should not able to wear any better faction items at all?

    While those who could steal sigils without having any risks can have 3x kill points easily??

    Can't you make it so everyone have the same opportunity of these items since its all ruined up already?

    The pub 56 faction at least could have bunch of people guarding and raiding faction stronghold.

    After pub 57 it just turned into uber garbages and trash while people could go the easier way for points and exploit the flaws of the system so they could have all their guildmembers = rank 10. Whilst many others pvping and helping the pvp activities in desserted Felucca to constant find them ARMOR unequiped whenever log on??

    COME ON. Time to REMOVE the REQUIREMENT now and immediately.

    It is forcing me to LOG OFF UO when I see my armor is unequipped.
  2. Kayne.

    Kayne. Journeyman
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    Oct 23, 2008
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    I can kind of see both sides of this....

    imo.....risk vs reward....its fel.

    those who play in tram choose to for a reason
  3. Winker

    Winker Babbling Loonie
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    May 14, 2008
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    yup just do what the rest of us do...Hang out at yew gate and kill a few factioneers and whala you got enough points to wear youre gear! If you are unable to kill people for the points you dont deserve to wear the gear simple as!
  4. CatLord

    CatLord Guest


    Learn how many points you need to have to stay at rank 10.

    Decide how many times you want to die...

    Add the lost points to the required points to be rank 10...

    Press play.
    Press stop once you reached your number of pre determined deaths.

    - on Drachs you need 31 points to be rank 10.
    - consider you lose 10% of your points each time you die.
    - If you decide you will die:
    - once... you will need to start with 34 points.
    - twice... you will need 38 points (10% of 38 will make you lose 4)
    - 3... 42
    - 4... 47
    - 5... 52
    - 6... 58

    use a backup character to hold your extra points,
    transfer them by saying "i honor your leadership",
    (transfers 4 per five given, losing one)
    this way you can always play with 34 points and everytime you die...
    you go visit your point holder and transfer 4 points to your pvper.
    gives you something to do while on stat loss... re-pot... re-box... re-point.

    Enjoy UO... Think ahead... plan... execute... rock it.
  5. Kiss Of Death

    Kiss Of Death Babbling Loonie
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    May 8, 2007
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    nah guys, c'mon don't say LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

    to have MAXIMUM rank you need 10 points.... c'mon, in case you cannot keep 10 points on your factioner you don't deserve the best faction items, just buy the doom artifacts

    I'd understand if for rank 10 you need 100 points but it's just 10 , if you have 2 clients, just join one char in a opposite faction and kill him in war zones...

    c'mon let's not talk stupid things please. It's even TOO EASY atm to get rank 10
  6. CatLord

    CatLord Guest

    which shard do you play exactly?
    I want to be there and enjoy those 10 points...
  7. Lynk

    Lynk Grand Poobah
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    May 13, 2008
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    THe OP had it right, the trammies who farm points by exploiting the system (mentioned by Kiss of Death) do make it difficult for large factions.

    Open up faction pvp to all facets. They accepted to join the faction, that's consenting to PvP. I'll raid every damned peerless boss, ilsh spawn, bank area, until every one of you pansies quits factions.

    Factions are meant for PvPers, not for you little sallies to get cheap items.
  8. rwek

    rwek Guest

    I would argue more along the lines of....

    Why would anyone buy a doom artifact anymore. Doom = dead.

    When people can have upgraded faction arties, easily obtained and safely used in Tram.

    Yeah, I agree.... Either unequip (not cool) the arties when in tram or.....allow pvp in tram via the factions.

    This would upset a lot of blue pvper's and I'd love to see some of the guard zone hugging blues go red, and or be fair game in towns/tram
  9. guum

    guum Guest

    I don't really have an issue with faction items requiring rank -- after all, they're supposed to be obtained via pvp. But to those of you saying, "just go get doom/peerless arties" -- faction items are *universally* superior to their doom/peerless "equivalents", and are cheaper to boot. I say leave the faction items/ranks alone but give pvmers a separate way to get items of similar power and utility.
  10. CatLord

    CatLord Guest

    what is the argument here?

    a player thinks rank 10 is hard to keep?
    it isnt.

    pvpers think they should have monopoly on the items?
    they dont.

    everyone has to get their silver and faction items in felluca... if you want to protect your faction items... kill all gold farmers, defend the bases...

    if the tram players can get the items fair and square... too bad.
    if they can get the points by using a community system... great.

    My guess is this... it isnt the items or the players getting them that is annoying you.

    It is the lack of control over it and the lack of ability to pk the offenders that is bugging you.

    Too bad.
  11. JC the Builder

    JC the Builder Crazed Zealot
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    May 12, 2008
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    There are two ways to get faction points.

    1) Be good at PVP.
    2) Have someone give them to you.

    If neither of those options are available then faction items are not for you.
  12. if you are in a faction, you should be fair game/orange wherever you are, tram and ilsh...
    just like before....
  13. CatLord

    CatLord Guest

    I remember chaos and order... pvp everywhere.

    Faction warfare also extended to Trammel?
    I dont remember that...

    But due to old age I have forgotten alot...

    There was a time in uo faction history when you were orange everywhere?
  14. Lynk

    Lynk Grand Poobah
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    May 13, 2008
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    It's not really "fair and square". I like how you renamed "exploiting the point system" to "using a community system".
  15. Kellgory

    Kellgory Certifiable
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    May 14, 2008
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    I can just see people selling faction points for gold or silver and making it where you need 50+ points to wear level 9 or 10 items.
  16. CatLord

    CatLord Guest

    Thank you.

    You should have seen our last effort to destroy the uo economy...

    by giving a bunch of 120 and stat scrolls to our tram alliance...

    another community system.
  17. Splup

    Splup Guest

    Removing need for rank is a good idea, but then there needs to be a system preventing tram-elites joining faction and just using the items in tram.

    Dunno what kind of system it should be thou.
  18. Lynk

    Lynk Grand Poobah
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    May 13, 2008
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    Stop suggesting rank should be removed. It should stay.

    Just expand faction fighting to all facets and none of the trammies will be able to keep any points. Not only will I kill them but I'll have some of my guildies follow them around on stealth archers with spirit speak to get follow up kills.