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Died to MD + JSV Alliance :(

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Tairon, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. Tairon

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    Tried to raid a silver farmer from MD but he cried in vent for help and his JSV ally came charging in with some other MD. It went poorly for me :(
     
  2. Diablo FTW

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    cried? im not even in vent,,, lol good try
     
  3. Diablo FTW

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    why are you even posting,.. you think im going to stay here and die no thanks
     
  4. burdensrise

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    Name of the JSV ally?
     
  5. Fanta(Siege)

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    well first of all not allied... the reason for me killing TNT with him is because we agreed to switch farming silver at that moment... so TNT shows up and of course we kill them... i am not allied with MD nor is JSV and this was enacted as of my decision and nothing to do with JSV... :rant2:
     
  6. T'Challa

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    What you just described is known as a "field alliance" here on Siege...
     
  7. Black magick

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    Actually, I believe that is what is known as a personal agreement on siege, as it is two people, not two groups.
     
  8. T'Challa

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    They are both representatives of their respective groups...

    Anyway, I never said it was an alliance between two guilds, so don't get all hot and bothered. I called it what it is, a field alliance. You can have a field alliance between an entire guild and one member from another guild, or have huge field alliances with numerous guilds involved.

    You also have a field alliance when two members from seperate guilds work together towards a goal, be it pvp or pvm...neither guild is required to respect the "field alliance," as it's generally known, during or after the completion of said goal.

    However, I would hope anyone in my guild would respect a temporary alliance called by another member for any reason, at any time. We trust one another like that :)
     
  9. shadowdame

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    Hey Tnt, I'm glad to hear you guys actually made it out of the house and all the way to a blighted grove . Usually y'all just sit in your front yard and try to drop houses on people. As far as MD goes... well .... they may cheat, but at least they come out to fight. And you can stop whining at us about dura/fanta hanging with MD, we know, actually he told us about it. Nice try on the snitch tip though, better luck next time tattle tale...)
     
  10. Fanta(Siege)

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    who is your game character? Don't think I've seen you on the field...
     
  11. Diablo FTW

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    most of poster on stratic are looser who have stealth and doesnt show up.. like tchalla and essence, Etc
     
  12. Mook Chessy

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    We came out last night...4 TNT and 8 JSV/KIN

    After an hour of killing it was TNT standing alone, with know one to fight!

    And Bloody Mary died twice also.

    I want to also point out that TNT had no tamers while JCV/KIN had 3!!!

    Lady Ninja-dead
    Albertas-dead
    Lady Gi-dead

    Funny thing is that Fanta only flagged on us when we got dismounted and then ran off and hid until he could get back in the house! Way to watch your guild mates die!

    Please icq me to set up fights anytime you want, we will be there.

    What was the score when Crus was at war with TNT 500 to 200??
     
  13. Wulf2k

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    How do you know they're stealthing, and haven't just logged off?

    *ponders the sound of one hand clapping after a tree fell on the other one in the woods*
     
  14. Kael

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    Actually it was pretty close to 2-1 for tnt....but i'm not sure why you would bring that up anyways unless your trying your hand at being a ****** bag.

    Lets also keep in mind we had a ton of people in CRUS that don't pvp trying it out from Gilfane and CWS and having fun. I would not doubt more than a hundred of your kills came during the day verses some of our spawners. I can also recall nights when we had our pvpers on us mopping the floor with you.
     
  15. Mook Chessy

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    I bring this up because I am sick of TNT getting bashed! We are know better or worse then any other guild on siege!

    For the record the only time Crus ever mopped the floor with us was when you had the worst speedhacker on the planet... KrunkPlaya on your side!

    I hate board pvp, lets settle this in game. As it is getting close to the holidays and people are on less it might be hard but lets set up fights like we did during the war.

    No traps or ganks just good old fights!
     
  16. Kael

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    Actually Krunk was seldom on during the war nor during the times I speak of...I mean the times when Cali was there to help Bruin lead the mages and when Havik was able to get the dexers together. But then again I sure everyone has a different point of view of how things went.

    Speaking of setting up some fights...Tibs was talking to me earlier as well about setting up some fights similar to the server wars but faction based. Shown templates...no stealth or tamers and more importantly no "blue" tamer allies getting involved in the fights
     
  17. Mook Chessy

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    Sounds good, lets set it up!!!
     
  18. Roland'

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    Well i wasnt out last night so i cant verify your version of things. But assuming by some small shed of light it is true. I should post 2x day every day about how TnT constantly gets there asses handed to them. How the entire shard considers them the worst of the 4 main pvp guilds. How when they dont leave the house to die we usualy kill a few of them in the house anyways. = )

    An after thought. You guys prolly did do well last night. I say that becaus once in a great while TnT does excel in the field and they instantly jump to the boards to brag about it. Although if you look through the boards youll see those posts are few and far between.
     
  19. Mook Chessy

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    ok dude!

    If your guild is so leet please tell me why Fanta needs to fight with MD???

    NM see ya on the field!!
     
  20. Speedy Orkit

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    I've field allied with Phant Cat before, here's why: Kill one TnT, and 5 more will be on you within seconds. FAIL to kill a TnT, and 6 will be on you within seconds. They pour out of the wood work.
     
  21. You know, when ever I need a good laugh, I can always count on you.

    I don't run a stealth template. I'm a necro-tamer, and since I'm a tamer I don't actively participate in PvP as I don't believe in tamers in PvP. Did the whole Pee-vee-Pee thing in a another lifetime, I'm playing a different way these days.

    But keep up the worship, it's gotta suck to be called out on all your BS all the time, don't worry, I'll keep doing it just for you because I :heart: you so much!

    Edit: And PS - I don't have to be a 'Factor' in Siege PvP to point our your scamming ways. If you can change your mind, I certainly have the right to change my playstyle.
     
  22. Mook Chessy

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    They dont have boards for your new shard?
     
  23. Speedy Orkit

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    You've been here a year. I've been here since the beginning. I'd still consider this to be "my shard"
     
  24. *Shakes head*

    What-ever happened to: It doesn't matter whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game?

    Sad that people will condone cheating.
     
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    So sitting in a house, or running all stealth...that is a better way to play the game?
     
  26. Compared to cheating? Without a doubt. You are welcome to your opinion, but I'm sticking to mine.
     
  27. Kael

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    I don't think Shadow condone's the cheating and speedhacks. I think his point was even if they are cheating at least they actively fight.
     
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    Morally: Totally agree.

    But as far as game play goes? I'd rather GET to fight speed hackers, than not get to fight anyone.

    As for Mook...I've been around a long time, don't think I forgot how fast you and Goldberg were on Chessy ^^
     
  29. And we're talking cheating vs play-style here.

    Do I think running all stealth & house hiding is a great way to play? No, but those people pay there $$/month to play as they see fit. If they want to play that way, who am I to tell them they cannot?

    But cheating is *NOT* a play-style [at least not as far as I'm concerned or EA for that matter, although they seem to do little about it]. It shouldn't be condoned on any level.
     
  30. Certainly seems like a condone to me.

    The problem is they wouldn't be actively fighting if they weren't cheating as they can't seem to lay down their crutch.
     
  31. ZeK'a

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    No, No, the point is: "Would you rather play with people that cheat or nobody at all." And that my friends is no choice at all, if the cheaters go, we will all still be here and more will come to stay because speed hackers won't be blinking around them killing them while they can do nothing to stop them. Whatever you say, haxxs are bad. Bad for our image, bad for our population, bad for everyone that plays by the rules. Which is 99% of us and why no one should condone this behavior just to put more people on the field today. Look to tomorrow without the hackers..
     
  32. Kael

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    If he condoned it....he would not have mentioned it. By mentioning it he managed to toss a insult to them while at the same time throwing them a compliment for being active in the field.

    Least thats the way it certainly seems to me hehe
     
  33. Mook Chessy

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    Yes we where fast, never fast enough to catch you!

    Also look at your posts, in one you complain that 6 TNT came out of the woodwork, then you state above that fighting speedhackers is better then fighting no one at all?

    You lost me there, please explain, :)
     
  34. Mook Chessy

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    2 years my friend...time goes quickly!
     
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    These patches are taking forever to download...
     
  36. Speedy Orkit

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    TnT will fight me one of two ways: Heavily out numbering me, or from a house. That is the entire explanation.
     
  37. Roland'

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    Yes and you know damn well he meant they will come out 6 at a time vs one person to guard a corpse or try to kill one person. Now if we had 6 people kill one person tnt would sit in their house and watch corpse get looted.
     
  38. Cheaters don't deserve ANY compliments.

    Here's what I got from his statement: MD Cheats, but I'll overlook it because they're active.

    Definition of condone (verb)
    to overlook; to forgive; to pardon
     
  39. Tiberius

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    I did a bit of spawn leading last night that resulted in one TnT dying. I looted his body, farmed another 1k silver, and killed 3 or 4 dryads before
    Nixon, Neo, Davy (alt of the guy I spawn twinked), Java, and Monolith Showed. Damn slow response time I must say and nice touch with the e-field right on the exit that kept bumping me back into the dungeon. The tip off that the raid was coming (other than messing with tnt in blighted is akin to stirring up a bed of cochroaches) was when I saw Davy unhide; I knew noway in hell was he back down there without some form of back up.
     
  40. Kael

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    Defination of Condone- To overlook, forgive, or disregard (an offense) without protest or censure

    Defination of a dead shard- no one playing

    Defination of trying to have some fun on a dead shard- fighting anyone out there that is pvping

    Don't make me try to defend M-D because I would prefer not to...however, again I don't think everyone in M-D uses tainted methods. A couple of members we ( as in WE that pvp and fight against them ) suspect of cheating.
     
  41. Tairon

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    TNT doesn't fight?

    I am in TNT, and I don't run "hide" or "stealth" and the only time I sit in a house is to await a few more guildies to bring the numbers to somewhere near manageable odds. I might fight out of a house for a bit in order to keep the enemy entertained so they don't get bored and log while I am awaiting a bit of assistance. I am pretty sure most other guilds would recognize that I come out of the house alone to amuse 3 or 4 of them by running around sniping and generally having fun.

    As to my earlier assertion of a JSV MD alliance, I later was informed it was just one JSV who needed his hand held in order to leave his house and since none of the real JSV Pvpers were on he latched on to another group of Pvpers from MD. He was in the MD vent and came rushing in with a few MDs to assist an MD fighting off a minor (two player vs one) gank at Blighted. This is no criticism of MD, I just found it odd that a JSV which is an entirely different type of guild, had a player in another guilds vent and were aligned that closely. It is not odd to have two guilds team up to go after one, but to be in each others vent is a bit more than a field truce.

    Tairon
     
  42. Speedy Orkit

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    I'm not going to continue to comment on it, my two cents? They've made PvPing too expensive, everyone is scared to lose there stuff. Lower the cost of faction arties back to other shards prices, or get rid of them.
     
  43. Tairon

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    He has a point!

    Tairon
     
  44. Roland'

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    I thought Noriat had stealth? Also in vent Verum said it best, "The shard is dead, you cant blame the guy for playing with other people if we arnt on." Its true, ive teamed with people from SP! a time or two. You can find me outside of Asty's house chatting with him instead of fighting him on occasion. Done the same with a couple TnT.

    The fact is often times we are the only ones on in our guilds at times and we seak company. Although I dont aprove of all the company Fanta keeps.
     
  45. Calibretto

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    This is out of character for you to come here to the boards like this. Both guilds out numbered each other a few times the other night when I was on. Both sides got kills. Never did you guys come out 4 vs 8 and we all know that.
    Hell at one time there were what six of you all stealth Archers? I think even you had hide/stealth. Only one with balls was Mono on his mage. I came out with 90 anatomy and 72 parry just to get a few fights. Let's get it together and keep this civil shall we.

    As far as CRUS you guys got ALOT of kills on new players just trying to learn pvp. It was a whole other story when I came onto the field and we all know that to be true. Don't bash CRUS for trying to learn pvp instead encourage the new people instead of driving them away.
     
  46. Speedy Orkit

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    I just hate the fact I can't even play a new fun template, because the suit costs so damn much. You can't kill anyone with it, because 1v1 they run, and so they gank you, and you lose the suit. It has no magery, taming, ninja, etc. PvP is just too focused around making money now.
     
  47. Bruin

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    +1
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  48. Speedy Orkit

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    Confused.
     
  49. Tiberius

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    CRUS became exponentialy more dangerous when you were leading them and did start pulling the difference in kills as whole towards the end of it. I miss the mass battles with no pets and relavtively few stealthers.
     
  50. Bruin

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    Was just agreeing with you.