I've read several of the threads where bard tamer templates are discussed but don't think I have the gist of it yet. As far as I can tell, for a PvM discord tamer you would likely want these skills: animal taming (maybe swap out for eval int when not taming?) animal lore veterinary (although I've seen dissenting opinions on this) music discord magery 1) Any skills that make more sense than those above for a disco tamer? If so, what? 2) What, in your opinion, are the optimum levels for those skills to get the most bang for the buck? 3) What about stats? What do most of you run and find success with? Thanks a bunch for putting up with my newbie questions!