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Discussion: PvP

Discussion in 'Project: Gorgon Discussion Hall' started by Auriel, Jun 19, 2014.

  1. Auriel

    Auriel Project: Gorgon Game Mod
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    I have organized, somewhat, last Saturday's Town Hall and will bring subjects here for further discussion. As the players Saturday learned, the devs want to know our thoughts and wishes. So please feel free to contribute!

    PVP

    Dreadz LOCAL a pvp map would be nice but I think content and getting more spawn points on the maps would be more priority

    Auriel LOCAL are we talking open world PvP or say a Capture the Flag map?

    Admin LOCAL yeah we have two new overland maps in the works, but I still want to get the existing maps more dense with content first

    Gremror LOCAL There's a blog post about PvP dreadz

    nimor LOCAL mm open world pvp need a real world low system preety hard to do i think

    nimor LOCAL but i think we all will like a pvp map

    Auriel LOCAL I like the idea of team pvp game maps, but I really don't know much about it

    Dreadz LOCAL they are fun if the maps are small

    Admin LOCAL it's really not set up to do big scale PvP, and I fear it will attract a different kind of player than a more social-oriented PvE grouping game. so I'm not too excited about open world pvp, though if we get enough players to do multiple server shards, that gets more interesting

    Dreadz LOCAL large pvp maps people get tired of running around easily

    Gremror LOCAL Yeah, I'm with the admin on PvP tbh

    Auriel LOCAL then there is the question of looting and griefing..

    Dreadz LOCAL I would say we need more mob spawnsI would say we need more mob spawns

    nimor LOCAL mm what about a collosoum ?

    Auriel LOCAL but I do like team Pvp and also conflictive RP

    nimor LOCAL like a doul system

    Holya LOCAL I've not hooowl for long, but I feel as though the most fitting kind of pvp for a game like this would be a bountry hunter/hide and seek map?I've not played for long, but I feel as though the most fitting kind of pvp for a game like this would be a bountry hunter/hide and seek map?

    Holya LOCAL like, a relatively large map, with valuables of some kind for players to gather gr some waylike, a relatively large map, with valuables of some kind for players to gather in some way

    Holya LOCAL and other players would have an insentive to howl the, for loot, or perhaps the pvp zone could be owned by an NPC who'd pay bounty hunters to get rid of poachers etcand other players would have an insentive to kill the, for loot, or perhaps the pvp zone could be owned by an NPC who'd pay bounty hunters to get rid of poachers etc















    DreadzLOCALyup they were awsome

    14 Jun 2014 15:42:28DreadzLOCALI would agree nimor

    14 Jun 2014 15:42:37DreadzLOCALpvp has a huge calling

    14 Jun 2014 15:42:42nimorLOCALu need to have some pvp arena before the KS i think this will get it polish and will attract allot of ppl

    14 Jun 2014 15:42:57AviticusLOCALYea Nimor, most of my guild members are all PvP lovers. They are always asking, "You guys add arenas yet? Or open PvP zones?"

    14 Jun 2014 15:42:59AviticusLOCALHaha

    14 Jun 2014 15:43:16AdminLOCALthe trouble with that is redoing all the pet ai stuff

    14 Jun 2014 15:43:26AurielLOCALso the want list is: housing, pvp, and....

    14 Jun 2014 15:43:33DreadzLOCALpack dolls

    14 Jun 2014 15:43:36AdminLOCALso that they can figure out who to help and who to attack in pvp zones

    14 Jun 2014 15:43:41GremrorLOCALAre gonna have permanent pets? That follow you through dungeons and zones?

    14 Jun 2014 15:43:43nimorLOCALthis game dosnt have an hard death panlty so daying isnt so scary and can realy have fun just trying new things

    14 Jun 2014 15:43:50AurielLOCALpack dolls...

    14 Jun 2014 15:43:56AviticusLOCALHaha, yep. I remember City of Heroes had completely different stats while in PvP.

    14 Jun 2014 15:44:03DreadzLOCALyes I love the death system here

    14 Jun 2014 15:44:18AdminLOCALgremror: Animal Taming will let you tame pets and raise them, feed them, etc. Animal Handling will let you bring them with you into dungeons as a combat skill

    14 Jun 2014 15:44:26DreadzLOCALpeeps would be more willing to pvp cause nothing to loose

    14 Jun 2014 15:44:30GremrorLOCALAh, okay, thanks

    14 Jun 2014 15:44:51GremrorLOCALThe death system here makes me eat poison when I see it... for expereicne & lolz. I love it.

    14 Jun 2014 15:45:08AdminLOCALand Animal Husbandry will let you breed them for new genes, and ideally sell the offspring to other players

    14 Jun 2014 15:45:10AviticusLOCALHaha yea I love what Eric's doing with hat.

    14 Jun 2014 15:45:14AurielLOCALand death xp

    14 Jun 2014 15:45:16AdminLOCALhahaha

    14 Jun 2014 15:45:16AviticusLOCAL*that

    14 Jun 2014 15:45:17DreadzLOCALI also love the enviroment damageI also love the enviroment damage

    14 Jun 2014 15:45:20nimorLOCALthats why pvp is missing so much

    14 Jun 2014 15:45:42nimorLOCALcant u just grey necro in arena?

    14 Jun 2014 15:46:02AdminLOCALtrouble with PvP is it's REALLY hard to keep a friendly atmosphere when there's a lot of pvp'ing, people get too competitive and emotional. and newbies really need a friendly environment in this game, or they get lost

    14 Jun 2014 15:46:04AviticusLOCALKilling off a skill set is never good.

    14 Jun 2014 15:46:09nimorLOCALthat will let u foucse on the AI after u have pvp running

    14 Jun 2014 15:46:30AdminLOCALyeah I could do something like that

    14 Jun 2014 15:46:38AurielLOCALadmin, thats why I would advocate a voluntary arena type thing. Or capture the Flag

    14 Jun 2014 15:46:40AdminLOCALpets just explode in the arena maybe

    14 Jun 2014 15:46:41AviticusLOCALAhh ok you meant temporarily.

    14 Jun 2014 15:46:53nimorLOCALits still alpah u can do it :)

    14 Jun 2014 15:47:02AviticusLOCALYea Auriel, I was thinking the same.

    14 Jun 2014 15:47:12AurielLOCALteam games

    14 Jun 2014 15:47:25AurielLOCALor like Arathi in WoW

    14 Jun 2014 15:47:25GremrorLOCALYeah, capture the flag is always fun

    14 Jun 2014 15:47:37DreadzLOCALEric do you still have the old serbule map? you could instance to it and see how it goes

    14 Jun 2014 15:47:39AurielLOCALwhere you have a series of objectives

    14 Jun 2014 15:47:40AviticusLOCALIn City of Heroes, they started with just Arenas of 1 vs 1, which really got hostile with the initial unbalanced nature of the power sets.

    14 Jun 2014 15:48:27AdminLOCALI'm not sure the old map will load anymore, but we could repurpose the old Kur map

    14 Jun 2014 15:48:32AviticusLOCALIt was a pretty grim thing, like Eric said, I remember a lot of newbs jumping into that thinking it would be fun and then leaving the game after dealing with the frustration of defeat.

















    AdminLOCALthe giant flat plane full

    of ice and deadly snow
    14 Jun 2014 15:48:37nimorLOCALwell u can

    let ppl in only after endurance lvl 25
    14 Jun 2014

    15:48:51nimorLOCALor 50
    14 Jun 2014 15:49:01nimorLOCALthat

    will give a goal for ppl
    14 Jun 2014 15:49:10AdminLOCALyeah I

    would want to lock the arena so newbies couldnt go in. too

    frustrating
    14 Jun 2014 15:49:12nimorLOCALand keep powers at

    cheack
    14 Jun 2014 15:49:12AurielLOCALanother thing to work

    for
    14 Jun 2014 15:49:22AviticusLOCALI could build some kind of

    arena
    14 Jun 2014 15:49:41AviticusLOCALLike a gladiator type

    thing.
    14 Jun 2014 15:49:49GremrorLOCALEnudrance 50 would be

    better than 25
    14 Jun 2014 15:49:50DreadzLOCALyea that would be

    good
    14 Jun 2014 15:49:55seasLOCALsorry afk'd for a while, pvp

    is a big one for me as well. i like the idea of instanceing up old

    zones and using em for that
    14 Jun 2014

    15:50:00AdminLOCALAviticus: maybe a chunk of the desert map, so

    players wouldnt get to it unti lthey were pretty advanced anyway
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    Jun 2014 15:50:00GremrorLOCALAs a requirement
    14 Jun 2014

    15:50:25AviticusLOCALAhh yea that works Eric.
    14 Jun 2014

    15:50:32AurielLOCALthats an idea, locate it in a high level

    area
    14 Jun 2014 15:50:49AurielLOCALcan you code an area within

    a map differently?
    14 Jun 2014 15:50:50AviticusLOCALAs it is

    now, it's a pretty savage looking place. It'd make for a great place

    to have an arena.
    14 Jun 2014 15:51:07AurielLOCALto allow

    pvp?
    14 Jun 2014 15:51:41AviticusLOCALThat's how Blade and Soul

    doesn't arenas, it's pretty cool.
    14 Jun 2014

    15:51:43AdminLOCALeventually, yeah. hmm might be that in the short

    term that's too hard, and just using an old map might work better.

    will have to ponder that a little
    14 Jun 2014

    15:51:59AviticusLOCALCould probably use our hotspot sysem.
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    Jun 2014 15:52:04AviticusLOCAL*system
    14 Jun 2014

    15:52:27DreadzLOCALyou could make a pvp skill and use the golem

    makin guy here in serbule to level that skill up so a player could

    get into the pvp area
    14 Jun 2014 15:52:31AdminLOCALyeah it

    could. though it will have weird side effects. like somebody just

    flying by overhead and then suddenly they're in the pvp zone, get

    shot down by fireballs
    14 Jun 2014 15:52:58DreadzLOCALthat way

    people would have to deliberly get access to that map
    14 Jun 2014

    15:53:16AviticusLOCALIn Blade and Soul, when you step into an

    arena or pvp area in the map it just says you're open for PvP, but

    they also let you run out instantly which is kinda annoying if you're

    playing someone and you are winning. They can just run outside the

    area.
    14 Jun 2014 15:53:18AdminLOCALI like that for a future

    plan
    14 Jun 2014 15:53:57AviticusLOCALYea keep forgetting you

    added flight to Gorgon.
    14 Jun 2014 15:53:58AdminLOCALright

    now there wouldnt be enough players to support multiple arenas, so

    high level players and lowbies would be in the same place. which

    sucks. So I think it would have to be a high-level req to get in, for

    kickstarter
    14 Jun 2014 15:54:15DreadzLOCALI agree
    14 Jun

    2014 15:54:22GremrorLOCALYeah
    14 Jun 2014

    15:54:23AurielLOCALme too
    14 Jun 2014

    15:54:36DreadzLOCALshould have to have a combat skill of 50 to

    enter
    14 Jun 2014 15:54:36AurielLOCALits there, but you have to

    work to get to try it
    14 Jun 2014 15:54:36AviticusLOCALYea,

    don't want to kill the newb experience.
    14 Jun 2014

    15:54:47AurielLOCALand exploration
    14 Jun 2014

    15:54:53seasLOCALadded flight? can you fly in any other manner

    than word of power?
    14 Jun 2014 15:55:15AdminLOCALnot yet.

    there will be other ways soon-ish
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    Jun 2014 15:55:27AdminLOCALthe druid can take raven form

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:30AurielLOCALI want wings

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:44AdminLOCALand fairies can limited-fly

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:47AurielLOCALoh thatll work

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:55nimorLOCALon the flaying thing items droped in the sky dont fall :D

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:57AviticusLOCALThe fae should be in soon too right Eric? Well playable I mean, they are already in the build.

    14 Jun 2014 15:56:32AviticusLOCAL*death by falling sack of armor and repair hammers*















    seasLOCALadded flight? can you fly in

    any other manner than word of power?
    14 Jun 2014

    15:55:15AdminLOCALnot yet. there will be other ways soon-ish
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    Jun 2014 15:55:27AdminLOCALthe druid can take raven form

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:30AurielLOCALI want wings

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:44AdminLOCALand fairies can limited-fly

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:47AurielLOCALoh thatll work

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:55nimorLOCALon the flaying thing items droped in the sky dont fall :D

    14 Jun 2014 15:55:57AviticusLOCALThe fae should be in soon too right Eric? Well playable I mean, they are already in the build.

    14 Jun 2014 15:56:32AviticusLOCAL*death by falling sack of armor and repair hammers*

    14 Jun 2014 15:56:34GremrorLOCALI saw the screenshots of nimor and auriel experimenting with flight xD

    14 Jun 2014 15:56:35AurielLOCALI sent hi the pics I took

    14 Jun 2014 15:56:37AdminLOCALwhen we get the wings and animations set up, yeah. well, they are supposed to have pretty different gameplay, so I dont think they'll make the kickstarter

    14 Jun 2014 15:56:52nimorLOCALu shuld give pvp realy soon so we can cheack it out now that there small number of players :)

    14 Jun 2014 15:57:01AdminLOCALhaha yeah I'm fixing some of those weirdnesses. I just wont let you drop stuff while in the air

    14 Jun 2014 15:57:24AurielLOCALthats probably the best thing to do

    14 Jun 2014 15:57:24nimorLOCALgood fix lol

    AviticusLOCALI'll start planning out that arena while I work on the new desert zone.