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Do 30/30 crafting Talismans spawn ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by popps, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. popps

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    I have seen Talismans with 30% in either regular or exceptional bonus but never both.

    It is not a big deal, granted, one can just use 2 different talismans with both at 30% and get the job done anyways but was wondering anyhow whether 30/30 do spawn at all.

    Anyone knows ?
     
  2. hakeem

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    Yes they do. I have a 30/30 in carpentry, and a 30/30 in fletching, owned by me. No idea how much that is worth.
     
  3. popps

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    Out of curiosity, you bought/found them or got them yourself ?

    From the Heartwood quests or any of the Library collections ? Did it take much long to bump into them or it was good luck ?
     
  4. Beastmaster

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    It was extremely lucky! I've gotten thousands of talismans and have never even seen one with a single 30 on it. Up til now I figured they were a myth.
     
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  6. Ezekiel Zane

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    Jeez, it's like everything else, wholly and completely up to the dreaded RNG. Talismans' properties are decided the same as loot, runic's etc. Is this a surprise?
     
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    One 30% in either regular or exceptional crafting bonus is not rare. I have seen several.

    The 30/30 I have yet to see any.
     
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    Wow. :drool:
     
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    I don't know, it all depends how it was coded.

    That is, if there are weights favouring or disfavouring a given property and intensity to spawn.

    Since I have no clue how Talismans' bonuses where coded, I have no clue how likely it might be to get the 30 bonuses.......
     
  10. Fink

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    I have a 30% Alchemy Bonus "Treatise on Alchemy" Talisman from the Library. I thought they all came with that but apparently it's random. I don't have any others.
     
  11. WarUltima

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    I have a 30/28 never seem 30/30
     
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    I got one of those too, that came with a 15% Exceptional bonus in addition to the 30% normal.

    Is there anything that uses the exceptional bonus? Alchemy's outside the realm of the crafting skills I usually cover...
     
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    I wish! My 'treatise on alchemy' has a disappointing 21%

    Smoke bombs can be 'exceptional'
     
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    To my understanding, the aid of the exceptional bonus is to reduce waste of resources when crafting and to (possibly, anyone can confirm this ?) reduce breaking of items when ehnancing.

    Or the breaking when enhancing relates to the regular bonus, not the exceptional ?
     
  15. Talismans have no affect on enhancing, although I, like many, still equip our talismans in the hope that the RNG gods will favor us.
     
  16. I don't believe there's anything that the exceptional tag actually makes better, but there are a couple of items that can be made exceptional. It's actually more of a nuisance than a help to have apples and smoke bombs come up exceptional. It just means you've got to use up one more lockdown in your house.
     
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    when heartwood first was released all the quest gave better items including tailsman,then they changed it and now it is hard to get a good tailsman and the items you get are junk,but thats only way someone would have gotten a 30/30 tailsman. maybe from minax paper from travesty or sanctuary quest,but if someone does have one they are very rare
     
  18. *waits for the inevitable*
     
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    Why would Minax paper from travesty or sanctuary quest yield more likely a 30/30 as compared to the Heartwood quests ?

    They are coded differently ?
     
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    Even though I promised myself I'd never post in another one of Popp's threads, I can't help but show this off.....

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    BOO YA
     
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    Just out of curiosity, "if" you were to sell it what would you sell it for ?
     
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    I remember when the loot was nerfed. I guess it didn't occur to me that the talismans could have been nerfed too, but you are probably right. It would be cool if a developer could confirm this.
     
  23. Beastmaster

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    I don't think there are any left that would have knowledge of this.
     
  24. Arcades

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    I bought a 30/26 Inscription Tali off a vendor, he was selling it b/c it had another property of which I cant recall, but it was super cheap. But to my knowledge, I didnt think Exceptional Inscribe talis were worth anything cuz there's nothing special about making scribed items exceptional
     
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    Well, without any Dev telling me differently, I'll keep burning my Scrapper's with this talisman.... oh yeah, my rate of books that have mods on them ABSOLUTELY has increased since getting the 30/30 tally. I've burned several thousand over the last two years, so I'd say my "sample size" is pretty good too!

    Popp: Not For Sale, at any price.
     
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    The average exceptional runebook has more charges than the average non-exceptional one.

    I have seen talismans spawn as loot on peerless mobs. Getting even a single +30 in hjeartwood is really rare these days. :( I've yet to see some ... though I dont quest there very often. I have all recipes from down there and plenty of other things to do.
     
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    Create a char on the japanese shards. They are way into crafting and you will see a few with 30/30 tailsman. They love their crafting and truthfully som eof the best items in the game I have seen before imbuing.
     
  28. Kyrgon

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    Grats :) I have the same
     

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    WOW! Never saw another one, guess we are lucky, huh?

    What is your experience with your's? Better mods as far as you've seen on books burned?
     
  30. Gelf

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    not sure how relevent this is, but when ml first came out was trading some stuff with a guy(cant remember name) but he showed me a tali with mining on it, was in the 20's i believe. tried to get him to trade it to me but he wouldn't, as he figured talis probally weren't supposed to spawn with mining. never seen another one so i guess he was right lol.
     
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    best talis ive gotten were off Travesty herself. used to take her out alot and got alot of 28/28ish ones but never anything with both 30
     
  32. Jesara

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    Wow thats great. My library talisman is 24% and doesn't do as well as others with higher bonus and exceptional. I hadn't realized it was random either.
     
  33. Aristillus

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    Closest thing to 30/30 I have

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  34. wanderer1origin

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    nice mine is 30 / 25 my book
    only tried once got a good roll
     
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    Mine is 30/28 also the only 1 i ever turned in. :thumbup:
     
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    Is the "inevitable" someone pointing out that 2 of the quests are repeatable?

    Specifically, "The Ancient World" (Heartwood, the one requiring minotaur artifacts), and the Bedlam admissions one in Umbra.

    I've gotten some really good stuff from them, after the nerf (heck, I have an ornate that is about 450 Intensity in properties, from one, that I had several million offered for it, prior to SA)
     
  37. Ezekiel Zane

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    I got my 28/25 blacksmithy talisman from one of those quests. Never received anything with a 30 on it though.
     
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    I do not understand the point.
    Quests yielding rewards......... so what ?
    That I knew of, quests are there to give rewards....... what is the big deal here ?

    "Inevitable" what ?

    I do not get it.
     
  39. Nope, that's not it. I'm still waiting for it. It'll happen though, I'm sure of it. It always does.

    *Hint*

    Someone touched on it. The bait just hasn't been taken yet.