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Doom Point System

Discussion in 'UHall' started by imported_spoonyd, Mar 23, 2008.

  1. Hey I'm an old school chiv archer who has been going to Doom with the same temp for years and years. The new point change really helped a lot w my temp since I rack up damage so fast but I'm experiencing a change lately in the drop rate. It's gone WAYYYY down in the last month or so. Did they change something else about it? Does anyone have more exact information about how many points the bosses are worth etc?

    On a sidenote, what do you think is the best temp for Doom now? Chiv archer? What about a SW tamer? Necro melee? State your opinion and give lotsa reasons.
  2. I think it is slower. There was one time over the past three weeks where I got two drops in an hour. This used to be a common occurrence. But now I have to go between 2, 3 and sometimes 4 hours to get my drop. I enjoy my template though. I am a Chiv mace fighter with 70 tactics and high healing for the cross healing. No bushido, but I do consistent damage with the weapons i use. Prior to this month, I was pulling in arties very easily. Now I was wondering if everyone started doing way more damage than I, which slowed my points...Or they changed something.

    It is possible though, that because not as many people hit doom, that we're not going through rounds as fast. Which causes for us to not get that chance to get a drop as often. Heck, I was on between 7 and 8pm on last night (saturday)...when you would expect a decent amount of people, and there were only 3 of us running it during that entire time. Took us longer to get through DFs than if we would have had a group.

  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I generally pull them once an hour some times 2 an hour but because the chance is random you CAN go a while without getting anything. I have noticed with 400 to 500 luck you pretty much get them once an hour steadily. With 900 to 1000 you pull them about 2 times an hour steadily. Anything over that though I have no idea about.

    Luck seems to be a large factor because your points and chance to get anything are individual so YOUR luck will effect YOUR chance to get something all of the time.

    So you get points from doing enough damage to get in the top damagers list. The more points you accumulate the better the chance that an artifact will drop in your pack. The more luck you have on the higher the chance that you will get something upon defeating an enemy. After you get so many points without anything dropping you will be guaranteed an artifact. The points are only there to assure that you WILL get something eventually and as mentioned the more points the higher your chance until you reach 100% chance to get something.

    This is why luck is so important when you do this because it raises the chance considerable even with 0 points but add your boosted chance from gaining points with your luck and now you have a pretty good chance to get something.

    I have also heard that leaving doom will reset your points. From experience I would have to say this is false because I was in doom for a while and I knew I should be getting close to an artifact. I had to leave but went back a few days later was in doom about 10 minutes killed maybe 4 monsters and got a totem. This tells me the theory is false because that is not the first time I have had that happen. I could have gotten lucky though so without any official word we may never know.

    Personally I would love to see some clarification in the FoF.
  4. mmmbeer05

    mmmbeer05 Guest

    sw necro/mages seem to rack up the damage fast!!

    chiv archers also rack it up as fast
  5. I have to ask.. WHAT point system?
    I finally convinced 2 of my friends to go to doom now that there are points.. 3 of us have been here for 3 nights now.. necro mages and a provo mage. We worked the rooms, and killed a dozen DFs. Weve gotten zilch.
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Stay till you get an artifact. From what I hear if you leave the gauntlet before getting an artifact your points will reset. Not 100% sure about that but I always stay until i get something.
  7. Lord Kotan

    Lord Kotan Slightly Crazed
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    May 16, 2008
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    I think they lowered it a lot; they just wanted to give people more crack to get them back into the system
  8. Hmm, thanks for the tip. Not going to leave til I finally get that berserker's maul *rolls eyes*
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    i beleive you can leave and come back, i dont think the points go back to zero untill you get an artie
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    That was what I thought but I heard a lot of talk about points resetting after you leave doom and from my experience testing that I find that if I leave between artifacts it takes longer to get the next.

    You could just be unlucky also.

    Speaking of luck if you have a luck statue I suggest using it strategically while in there. I seem to pull artifacts at a decent rate when I have 400 or so luck from the statue.
  11. well i spent last night wee into the morning all alone in doom. count 12 dark fathers and every one of the rooms 10 times or so ( a couple dark fathers spawned twice) I am pretty sure i was on the top attackers list as I was the ONLY one there all that time. I burned out all my pof and every supply I had drug in and had to leave. Ticked off, I came back and ran through 5 more dark fathers. Nada. even if the points reset, isn't 100% monopoly on all the points from the first run at around 300 luck enough darn time to have gotten somewhere in the vicinity of a 1 in 3 chance? This was stupifyingly insane, as if the points DO stick (which they should) that was 17 dark fathers and roughly 75 lesser bosses, so that would have to mean--even on a percentage basis point thing, if one dark father raises the chance 2% and a miniboss raised it, uh, 1/3 of a percentage point, that would be 34% +25% or 59%, at which point it would be astronomically impossible not to have gotten an arti somewhere in the last 5 dark father runs. (24% + say 1/3 of 50 around 17% =41% at 30 more rolls for 25 mini bosses and dark fathers, each raising 'points'.

    All that means it is either skewed messed up or doesn't work as designed. even at half those values (1% and 1/6) the last two runs would have been 12 rolls at around 26-30% the values for DF and the mini bosses must be something more like .5 percent and .01 percent to make that understandable.

    Of course, when I go back in i'll get one right off, but lord. What a horrorshow.
    yeah, i was running around when they started 'point' system with like 25 people, would get one every 5 trips around which took all of about 30 minutes. Perhaps the answer in this is that there is not a set amount of 'points' per critter that are divided up as much as they seemed to say it was that way, but that if you whack a df with a redeemer 5 times in a giant 30 player killfest you get the same amount of points as if you killed it all by yourself. More likely.
  12. <blockquote><hr>

    Hmm, thanks for the tip. Not going to leave til I finally get that berserker's maul *rolls eyes*

    [/ QUOTE ]

    No no....you don't want the maul. You want the Dragon Slayer lance.

    It's da bomb....

    Or even *pause for effect*

    The Holy Knight's Breastplate!!

    Just think of what you could tell all your friends!
  13. If you play on Catskills...

    We focus at 7 pm est... use the lucky statue... then one hour of fun and games...

    We've been getting 3-8 arties everytime we go there...

    You can find us in New Haven.
  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    on Great Lakes....

    Arties been droppin real good in the past 2-3 days! Seems it goes in cycles. I spend about the same amount of time in Doom per day - at least an hour a day. I had been going for days and days without a drop. Sunday, got Bracers and yesterday got a Frostbringer and a HoM in the same night. I think it's more than a "point system" determining the drops! I wonder what the REAL formula is!?!Been using Necro/Mage/SW temp.
  15. Winder UO

    Winder UO Guest

    I've done maybe 1,5 hour in doom over the past week. Got an arty more or less every 2 rounds.


    120 tacts
    120 swords
    120 anat
    100 spirit
    90 heal
    70 chiv
    50 necro
    50 bush