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Doom Statloss! -Yippie!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by ClownL33t, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. ClownL33t

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    Well apparently if you get blood oathed and kill yourself and you're in a faction YOU GO IN STAT? Can we get a fix on this please? This is ridiculous. :thumbdown:
     
  2. It Lives

    It Lives Lore Master
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    I am lost *sarcasm* is there a faction base in doom?
     
  3. mastodon

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    im going out on a limb but isnt that a decent trade off for the better artis you guys get? then again fighting in doom for artis that are better in factions seems like an oxymoron. *braces for flaming impact*
     
  4. Coffin

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    Yeah I guess if you kill yourself, no matter how, you go in stat. I think it's to counter people trying to avoid stat loss by killing themselves with spells if they're about to die in PvP? Not sure really.
     
  5. Bardie

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    don't take your faction char...issue resolved
     
  6. Viper09

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    Well, don't kill yourself. It's suppose to fix a bug where players would intentionally kill themselves to avoid giving points to the people attacking them and going into stat-loss.

    It's been this way for a long time.
     
  7. ClownL33t

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    ... I ment I didnt chew an apple quick enough and I pretty much killed myself because of it. I didn't physically "kill myself" sorry for typing it like that. :pint:
     
  8. Aibal

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    True. However, I think in good 'ole UO fashion, the game "sees" you as having killed yourself and stats you accordingly.
     
  9. Fizzleton

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    playing an archer? I love this - seeing that arrow going away and knowing I am dead already.
     
  10. Mistura

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    The trouble with stratics is theres always one idiot comes out of the woodwork in these types of threads.

    Why exactly should someone not be able to take a faction character to doom can I just ask?
     
  11. Ken of Napa

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    There's no reason you can't take your faction character to doom. Just don't complain if when you do, the system works as intended and you wind up in stat loss ;)
     
  12. onthefifty

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    i know guys that have equipped themselves with all the factions items in order to be able to solo doom and peerless. they have no desire to use factions in a pvp sense.

    i'm not saying it is right or wrong, but using faction gear in a pvm envirnment is a clear advantage imho.

    so if u die and go into stat even in a pvm envirnment i don't think this is too much of a penalty.

    just hang out for 15 minutes and shoot the breeze with nix :mf_prop:
     
  13. Mistura

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    No complaints from me ;)

    I don't think that is how it is supposed to work though, I believe if you die to blood oath you are not 'commiting suicide' so therefor you shouldn't go into stat loss.
     
  14. Harlequin

    Harlequin Babbling Loonie
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    What they said!

    Oh, and maybe switch to fast weapons with low base damage and high life leech/vampiric embrace/constant curse weapon. Cut back on EOO/Consecrate if you are doing more damage than 50% of you HP.
     
  15. lucitus

    lucitus UOEC Modder
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    You are a faction fighter! Sucide is no option for you, so not amazing that you are going to statloss.
     
  16. Bardie

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    obviously you were complaining by calling me a idiot, because i said don't take your character if you don't like how it works. If you want to abuse the faction system and do tram stuff with your faction character and this kind of thing happens with your supped up faction gear, either don't take that character or don't complain. So suck on that fatty (see i can call names too)
     
  17. o2bavr6

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    In theory I agree that if you die in Tram in the manner that you did, you should not go in stat.

    With that said: If I had it my way your faction items would drop into your pack upon entering Tram and you would not be able to wear them until you re-entered Fel.

    If there are no factions in Tram then there should be no faction items in Tram as well.

    No Factions in Tram! No Faction Items in Tram! No Faction Deaths in Tram!
     
  18. Mistura

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    I am an active factioner so there is no faction item abuse here.

    That being said, when I PvM in Tram I don't use faction chars because they are all red.

    Killing yourself intentionally is designed to put you in stat.

    Blood oath is not.

    If it works with the DF, we can assume it would work with a non faction necro in FEL that a factioner happens to be fighting.

    So you get bloodoathed by some non faction player and eventually die to blood oath, and go into stat loss... In this instance you actually get put in stat loss because you lost a battle against a non faction char? Is that supposed to happen?

    The answer is almost certainly, no.

    Why? "Suicide statloss" is to prevent people avoiding going into stat by getting the last hit on themselves in a hopeless situation.

    Someone dying to bloodoath does not meet the above criteria, hence, no stat loss should apply.

    It really is simple logic, game mechanics not working as they should...In my honest opinion.
     
  19. o2bavr6

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    How can another player in Tram kill you?

    Or are you using this example for the Fel facet?

    edit:
    Ooops, just read your post clearer.. you did say Fel.. sorry