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Draconi this was a start but some were missed

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Guest, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. Guest

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    As pointed out in this thread :

    http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/uo/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=uouhall&Number=7612878&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=6&what2=postlist

    it showed several backpacks of vendors selling ingots and gems all the same--well I just quickly walked thru Luna LS and found that 5 vendors all selling the exact same items for the exact same prices organized the exact same way as the ones Wolfie shows in the pictures on that thread.

    I learned a long time ago:

    If it looks like a duck
    Walks like a duck
    Sounds like a duck

    it is probably a duck


    I would be glad to post coordinates if others post that they find the same vendors on thier shards and all agree on posting the coordinates of those vendors as well.

    I think if we find more than 10 all the same--we might have found some ducks.

    So I have found 5 how many has anyone else found?
     
  2. Guest

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    The vendors might be a scriptors but the houses aren't.
     
  3. could be a goose but u are right- more scriptors to be apprehended and burned!
     
  4. Guest

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    But if we the players find lets say 25 all the same--I would think that Firestarter Draconi might like to see them melt under his flames. I dont mean the houses I mean the vendors themselves and maybe the accounts that own them.
     
  5. Guest

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    Yep. There are at least 5 of these vendors on Napa. Hopefully, today was scripter houses, and next is scripter vendors.
     
  6. Guest

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    Let's rejoice in a start and a beginning.
     
  7. Guest

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    I hope to hear more from other shards so that we can be more certain we found some ducks.
     
  8. barbed runic guy is another
     
  9. Setnaffa

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    Yesterday I noticed one of my Luna Vendor Renters had the exact same pattern of Barbed kits for sale as those found on dozens of other shards, so I terminated his contract.
     
  10. Vallend

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    I think Draconi should issue one warning, or consider the burned out houses on most shards as that warning. If you have a house in Luna that rents spots out to vendors make sure none of them are scripting or duping because chances are your house could end up burned to the ground too. It should not matter that you yourself was not doing any cheating, but if its obvious one of the people you rent to is cheating then you risk your location in Luna.

    People should always know what who they rent to is selling, and claiming lack of said knowledge is no defense in my book. Maybe there would be less cheating if the house owners were like you Setnaffa and terminated the contracts of those they suspect of not following the rules of the game.
    Same goes for those who have honest Vendors if you place one on a suspected cheaters house, or at a house that has vendors that look like they might be stocked with dupes or scripted items. Then you risk losing that vendor and your items and gold on that vendor.
     
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    could be a goose but u are right- more scriptors to be apprehended and burned!

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I know!!! We could round up all those vendor scripter people and publicly burn them at the stake, then ban their accounts...hehe. You could charge gold to see it or something. Man I just had this really hilarious Monty Python Holy Grail turned into UO thing happen in my head...LOL!!
     
  12. Black Majick

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    <blockquote><hr>

    As pointed out in this thread :

    http://boards.stratics.com/php-bin/uo/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=uouhall&amp;Number=7612878&amp;page=0&amp;view=collapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=31&amp;fpart=6&amp;what2=postlist

    it showed several backpacks of vendors selling ingots and gems all the same--well I just quickly walked thru Luna LS and found that 5 vendors all selling the exact same items for the exact same prices organized the exact same way as the ones Wolfie shows in the pictures on that thread.

    I learned a long time ago:

    If it looks like a duck
    Walks like a duck
    Sounds like a duck

    it is probably a duck


    I would be glad to post coordinates if others post that they find the same vendors on thier shards and all agree on posting the coordinates of those vendors as well.

    I think if we find more than 10 all the same--we might have found some ducks.

    So I have found 5 how many has anyone else found?

    [/ QUOTE ]


    Im sure that they ahve a long hit list of accounts/vendors/homes that have to be investigated. Give them time and Im sure they will get to them.
     
  13. Guest

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    RTLFC

    I think the best course of action is to forward any information about cheats to EA and give them the chance to investigate and punish as appropriate. Some cheats are probably being watched to track their items and activities before making more comprehensive raids on their homes/accounts.

    The impression I get is that big changes have been coming in and there is more to come. That says to me, be patient and see what EA do. The best way to catch these gits is to gently tighten the noose while they're not even noticing.

    Last night also serves as a final warning to any casual cheats, that if they don't stop, they stand to lose everything. So anyone who does it "because everyone else is, and nothing will happen to me" may reconsider. That would save EA a lot of time pursuing players who may have stopped now. And averting a major tantrum from all the banned players. I don't think anyone wants to hear "ok u warned us, but OMG U BANNED ME!!!111" spammed here [​IMG] Any cheat who continues after last night can then be freely punished because EA gave them due warning to stop.

    Wenchy
     
  14. Guest

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    Burn there houses and lynch them scripters high!!!

    This is sooo awesome devs, well done ...

    Action!!! speaks louder than any words!!!!!!!!
     
  15. Guest

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    <blockquote><hr>

    I think Draconi should issue one warning, or consider the burned out houses on most shards as that warning. If you have a house in Luna that rents spots out to vendors make sure none of them are scripting or duping because chances are your house could end up burned to the ground too.

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    That would be absurd. In some cases it is obvious, but in others it would not be. Then it becomes a question of how obvious is obvious.

    Lets just stick with punishing the cheaters.
     
  16. Andrasta

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    Quack Quack.. You missed one on Atlantic &amp; Great Lakes, Draconi!


    [​IMG]


    This is Great Lakes.
    Multiples of these on Atlantic and Great Lakes...will check other shards..
    Same houses with multiple barb kits, fletcher kits, ingots and high level LBOD's...

    They are being emptied on Atlantic but apparently they feel secure on GL as they are still set up..
     
  17. Lord Kotan

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    But they might boot those vendors if they heard Draconi was coming....

    Pretty scary losing your luna house over someone elses vendor.
     
  18. Andrasta

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    Great Lakes

    [​IMG]


    Great Lakes again...

    [​IMG]

    There are six of the Ingot vendor on LS in various houses. All named Ingots/Gems/Blackrock. Sometimes Ingots&amp;Gems&amp;Blackrock. All same layout and prices. Multiples of the "Barbed Kit 2.5 m" as well.

    Checking Pacific now and found two sets there in two different houses.

    Three on Chesapeake as well.

    Three on Catskills..
     
  19. Sees Far

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    So if she weighs more than a duck, she must be a witch......Burn Her!!!
     
  20. Pink Dragoness

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    With all the burning, explain to me why the person house next to mine does'nt seem to be running their 24/7 tailor scripting any longer.

    Draconi put the fear in them!

    *giggles*
     
  21. Andrasta

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    Kudo's to Origin...I can only find one Barbed kit vendor in Luna on that shard. You do have three houses burning there!

    While I'm looking, don't you think these are nice outfits? You can also find them on many shards. This is Atlantic. Lovely...

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    So fashionable!
     
  22. Guest

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    <blockquote><hr>

    Great Lakes again...

    [​IMG]


    Lake Superior

    [​IMG]

    There are six of the Ingot vendor on LS in various houses. All named Ingots/Gems/Blackrock. Sometimes Ingots&amp;Gems&amp;Blackrock. All same layout and prices. Multiples of the "Barbed Kit 2.5 m" as well.

    Checking Pacific now and found two sets there in two different houses.

    Three on Chesapeake as well.

    Three on Catskills..

    [/ QUOTE ]I agree that scripters can be a big problem, but I have bought from this person many times and I'm thankful that I can puchase ingots at a reasonable cost. We should beware our want of destruction because the cost of these ingots, should this person be put out of business, is going to go sky high. And the randomization of ore veins makes me unlikely to ever mine again.
     
  23. Hunters' Moon

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    <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    Great Lakes again...

    [​IMG]


    Lake Superior

    [​IMG]

    There are six of the Ingot vendor on LS in various houses. All named Ingots/Gems/Blackrock. Sometimes Ingots&amp;Gems&amp;Blackrock. All same layout and prices. Multiples of the "Barbed Kit 2.5 m" as well.

    Checking Pacific now and found two sets there in two different houses.

    Three on Chesapeake as well.

    Three on Catskills..

    [/ QUOTE ]I agree that scripters can be a big problem, but I have bought from this person many times and I'm thankful that I can puchase ingots at a reasonable cost. We should beware our want of destruction because the cost of these ingots, should this person be put out of business, is going to go sky high. And the randomization of ore veins makes me unlikely to ever mine again.

    [/ QUOTE ] Are you kidding? You are willing to ignore the scripter problem because you like the "every-day low prices"? [​IMG]
     
  24. I'd rather see the prices of ingots and the usefulness of those ingots to be based on how long it takes to get them legitimately...

    I recently made a miner and got discouraged by how much easier it was for me to just go make gold and buy the ingots/gems I need. I went back to check on the vendor I had been buying from and it is in rubble. I laughed.
     
  25. Andrasta

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    The mining changes wouldn't have been necessary in the first place had these people been removed.

    Sonoma - Four ingot vendors...Three barbed...

    I'm only counting the "Barbed 2.5 mil and the Ingots/Gems/Blackrock vendors, not the 2.6, 2.7 or 2.8 vendors...
     
  26. Andrasta

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    Guess who's frantically taking down his vendors on Legends...Pictures to follow...

    The first one...


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  27. Guest

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    his 4 shops on Sonoma

    just doing the math here and watching the guy run to save his stock ....hehe
    we found so far 23 vendors by this guy and we havent even checked all shards yet.....

    All with well over 10k each colored ingots and 100's + gems of each and eachkind of gem.
    Every day he has that in stock .....

    unless he has a soccerteam in his house mining for him ....this is not possible through legal means.....
     
  28. Pink Dragoness

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    unless he has a soccerteam in his house mining for him
    ____________________________________________________________________

    You know, soccer team is possible, this can happen anywhere, US, Europe, Japan, so we have many territories of the world to cover here.

    I can only hope that EA has the full support of the asian game masters to help combat this problem also.
     
  29. Pink Dragoness

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    That is funny Andrasta, the Heat is on!
     
  30. Guest

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    As if pulling vendors will help lol. Oh, EA been watching you for potentially months and you really think you can just throw the goods in the trash and they won't see? I wonder how many scripts will be running to delete all the ill gotten gains now [​IMG] Still, we'll now get confirmation (like it's needed) that these vendors are owned by cheats. But GMs wouldn't notice shops closing like that and draw any conclusions, now would they? *snicker*

    I really hope that around the shards there are GMs smirking and readying torches for Draconi's next onslaught [​IMG]

    Wenchy
     
  31. Guest

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    if I owned a house that had one of those vendors I'd cancel the contract and hope all its ill gotten goods fel into my crate so I could use them to fill bods. Assuming of course that the scripter was banned.

    ^^
     
  32. Guest

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    You can't exactly script tokens.
     
  33. Guest

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    It is possible. Just not likely.

    It could be some 3rd world country kids mining for him for .25 an hour.

    Like I said, possible, just not likely.
     
  34. Guest

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    <blockquote><hr>

    Guess who's frantically taking down his vendors on Legends...Pictures to follow...

    The first one...


    [​IMG]




    [/ QUOTE ]

    I just around Luna on LS and dont see any of his vendors there--I wonder if he took them down or EA blew them up. I hope it was EA blowing them up.

    I think players staying aware and posting here can only help.


    Seems like posting here has taken down the 300k hinge guy, the wierd bod houses, and now the ingot dude.

    I hope more keep an eye out for ducks.