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Elemental Damage now stops you from Reforging a weapon again.. Intended?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Vexxed, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. Vexxed

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    Prior to publish 80 you could reforge weapons with lower end runics & if you ONLY received a elemental Dmg distribution you could then Reforge the item AGAIN in hopes of achieving a weapon with 100% elemental distribution AND a "Reforge Only" property (Velocity on Throwing weapons for instance). Elemental Damage does not count as a property for Imbuing, so I don't really see why it should for Reforging..... You can no longer for instance craft a 100% Fire Broadsword & Reforge it again with the intention of getting 140% Hit Mana leech etc...
     
  2. NuSair

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    Unless elemental damage is now a property and can be imbued, it shouldn't stop reforging.
     
  3. Gorbs

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    I never saw a clarification as to what "Reforging should work properly now" meant. Perhaps this is a case of fixing something no one wanted fixed?
     
  4. Vexxed

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    Well I guess they could have changed how Reforging Deals with the Damage increase from Exceptional craftsmanship... Hmm let me check that.

    [​IMG]

    OK nope! I crafted a non-exceptional Soul Glaive with the only property being 70% energy Damage & when I try to Reforge it again it won't let me... It DOES allow you to imbue it, but that sux imo. I want to be able to craft 100% elemental weapons & have the option to Reforge certain properties onto such weapons like we've had since Reforging came out..

    So..... BUG or Intended ??
     
  5. Vexxed

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    No one else has thoughts on this?
     
  6. Lord Lew

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    I doubt you were ever supposed to craft such items that way. You can always do two named reforging, and try to get the mod you want, or imbue it. Oh wait, you want a 7-9 property weapon with crazy unbalancing mods... Lets face it, you knew it was too good to be true, now it is.
     
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    I very much doubt that it was ever intended that you could re-forge an item twice. The game now recognises that the item has already been reforged.
     
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  8. NuSair

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    I'd say get a weapon forged with a runic hammer that has just the elemental damage property and try and reforge it, but I suspect that Petra is correct, that it's more of a flag that you cannot reforge an item that has already been reforged.
     
  9. cazador

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    You can't reforge unless an item is made with a regular kit/hammer therefore anyone with 100% fire/poison/energy/cold with a slayer and some good mods weapons just turned into super expensive pieces..and I tried doing the double reforge before pub 80 maybe 79 and also could not get it to work..so maybe it was fixed earlier
     
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    Well then, maybe I should put away my sampire's weapons for a month or so.
     
  11. Vexxed

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    Ummm nope. Ultimately what I was looking to craft were your typical 100% elemental damage sampire weapons, but then Adjust 1 property (Say Hit Mana Leech) to Reforge intensities. That is NOT a 7-9 Mod Godly Weapon. It's the current standard in PvM equipment that's been out for Months. I simply find it silly that they are changing the reforging system after having it this way for soooooo long. All of my Sampire suits are based around the ability to Reforge a 100% elemental weapon & then to again Reforge it to Acheive higher HML / H Area / HCI effects etc.... If what they did is simply add a flag that an item cannot be Reforged 2x then they could have just checked that the item didn't have any Item properties prior to allowing a Reforge (which is the way it was before because elemental damage doesn't register as a magic item property). I agree that all the Double Reforge bugs that existed like Damage Eater All etc were things that need to be fixxed, but they didn't have to break the combination of Elemental Damage + Reforge .... Hmmmm Actually it just occurred to me that depending on how they implemented this it might still be doable. If I just used low level Runic hammers to Craft Weapons (Not Reforge) I will eventually get clean weapons with elemental damage, BUT they won't have the Reforge flag. At this point I could then Reforge for the High intensity property I'm looking for. I will have to test this.
     
  12. Basara

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    Someone has gotten their wires crossed....

    It has always been possible (and still is) to reforge a LOOT item that has only elemental damage that is made of base materials.

    I just reforged a 60% fire, 40% cold Radiant I had from fight loot to confirm.

    It's never been possible to reforge
    • a weapon that had already been reforged
    • a runic weapon with more properties than elemental damage and exceptional DI (which have been impossible to make since elemental damage ceased to be counted for runic crafting)*
    • weapons with only elemental damage, where the elemental damage came from a non-basic material being used to craft.
    *Weapons made with a low-end runic before that change, that ended up as elemental damage as the only property, can be imbued - but those weapons are years old by that point, and most were either smelted or imbued long ago, with the possible exception of some of the 100% poison weapons that people had been using until recently for physically abusing their pet golems (where's the Britannian SPCA - or do they draw the line at constructs?)
     
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  13. Ender76

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    This is/was incorrect.
     
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    Ender76: Really, now?

    I guess that you have some great insight that everyone who tested Reforging on the Craftsman forum somehow missed? I'm the moderator for that forum, and I NEVER heard any mention of such a possibility. Granted, it might be from the extreme unlikelihood of reforging resulting JUST elemental damage, but I doubt it.
     
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    Dude, it's in the "reforging: how to". Reforged 100% elemental damage weapons could be reforged. They ended up w/ screwy items titles w/ lots of " ~ ~" s
     
  16. Vexxed

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    Yea... Ender is correct.....

    [​IMG]

    POST #9.
    http://stratics.com/community/threads/reforging-how-to.264020/

    Anyway, it might have been a bit unclear in the title, but I did say

    "if you ONLY received a elemental Dmg distribution you could then Reforge the item AGAIN in hopes of achieving a weapon with 100% elemental distribution"

    AGAIN being capitalized so that it was clear you were Reforging Twice. Anyway I just tried a exceptionally crafted (NOT REFORGED) Dagger that was

    100% Fire Dmg
    40% Damage Increase

    and it would not let me Reforge the item... I'm unsure if the Damage increase from Armslore is counting as a magic item property, but it's not looking good so far.
     
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    Sorry, Ender. I didn't remember seeing that post from last spring. If I had, I would have thought it would have been fixed well before now, given some of the tweaks crafting got along the way. After all, when Imbuing came out, it seemed like small fixes were being done every few weeks, like the small window where artifacts were imbuable.

    After all, the ability to reforge twice is pretty much an exploit just screaming to be fixed. Had I known that was what Semmerset was talking about in their broken English, that post would have been deleted 8 months ago, as per Stratics policy.

    But as for today, it appears that exploit is closed.

    And, Vexxed, you CAN'T MAKE a 100% Fire Dagger with just Exceptional DI, anymore, except by reforging. It would have to have DI as a property (say, if the person had less than GM arms lore), and THAT would prevent reforging.

    Was your 100% fire Exceptional dagger several years old? Or might it have been 60-90% Fire and enhanced with bronze, with "do not color" chosen?

    Only a several years old DC runic crafted dagger would be potentially reforgable, and it's possible they might have found a way to keep runic crafted from being reforged, even with 0 properties, and it might be that only colored loot with no properties might be reforgable now. I've no really old 100%/no other properties runic made items to test.
     
  18. Ender76

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    No worries. I actually think they should have kept it in. I saw the exploit or whatever and never used it bc it's really hard to get a decent piece. You would have ended up wasting a lot of runics / elemental blanks.
     
  19. Lord Lew

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    You could do it with balanced bows as well. Look at all the pvp stuff and you will see why ot was
     
  20. semmerset

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    After publish 80,we can not double reforging :(
    (elemental weapon and over limited mana leech or ssi )
    Many japanese knew it,some one check test center and show it.
    I made 10 weapons Dec5 to new publish,however Atlantic back Dec 5.
    I have many only elelemental weapon and many runics. :(

    Today ,I and my buddy try double reforging.
    We remove DI and again reforging,its impossible.

    If I want look like same weapon,I'll try use bronz runic.
     
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    Hmm, Curious has anyone ever seen an armor piece with the whole `1_PREFIX` `2_ITEM` tag?

    Like so...

    Bugged Gorget.jpg

    The item above is a leather gorget btw, just wondering if anyone else has ever gotten one, this is the only one I've ever seen.
     
  22. Vexxed

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    heh, when I made that gorget it didn't have any mods after the first reforge, it must have rolled a resist increase, that didn't bring it above the Arms Lore/Exceptional bonus resist or something.

    I was just wondering if anyone else had other pieces of a full armor set like it.