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Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Stealth Caster, Jan 11, 2008.

  1. For those of you who posted and had a chance to read Elfstone's post before it was deleted, I just wanted to reply to that. Him and I are in the same guild and he shares the same frustration that I have. We both have only been in Siege for a few months and the biggest problem/headache in siege is KOC. Now this is just my observations and take it for what it is worth.

    I have talked to a few vets that have played this game for a long time and some that played it back when it first started and there was only a siege. There was no productioin shards to speak of. So the question I have then is why is there only 1 siege now and a lot of production shards? Maybe because when new people do come over to try siege you have guilds like KOC that will kill anything and anyone they see. Not only kill them but dry loot them as well. Doesnt matter if they are blue or a noob they kill them. I know as I was killed many times by KOC. This then discourages people from coming to siege and they go back to the production shard and get there pvp fix by just doing felucca on there.

    I guess what we mean by honor in killing is why does KOC have to act like the big bully on the block? Hell I got killed one time and they took my damn noob clothes and robe. Why? Are you that poor? From what I can see if you play this game long enough you know who the pkers are. So why not just go after them? At least don't go after a guy who is training up his skills on the lizardmen and you roll in and kill him and pump up your chest like you are all that.

    Like, I have said before KOC is good and bad for siege. I like having you guys to hate really. And I know that blindside last night snuck in and jacked one of our members going through a portal. And then started talking smack after wards like they are going to hunt us all down. I say good! We only have a handful of us anyway and that means I wont have to go looking for you! And hell why would it matter, anytime I saw a KOC they came after me anyway. So have at it, I just think everyone should think about what your actions are doing to this shard and when the population keeps dwindling down maybe you will think about a Code of Ethics and Honor!
     
  2. Guest

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    is KOC/OTF/REV/whatever else they used to be making people quit again?
     
  3. Guest

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    Vmp was doing that when I started. I thought for a while that they must have had a very big box of scissors, cuz they always took mine. Then one day, I found them dumped on the ground a couple screens from my body.

    I don't think this sort of thing keeps people from siege, since it's balanced by NEW and the interactions with the many non-pk/dryloot people on the shard.

    I think Siege is limited by:
    1. ROT. People don't want to train for 6-7 months.
    2. losing junk. People from other shards aren't used to losing their gear and don't realize how easy it is to replace a GM armor suit.
    3. People don't realize that you can actually be competitive in a GM armor suit and 1/1 jewels.
    4. People on other shards have the false impression that all the vets here have an advantage from having lots of blessed stuff - that's been fixed now, but it's still on their minds.
     
  4. I don't know if they are actually making people quit. But I have read many posts where people are worried about the population of the shard and I have seen posts of people that is quitting.

    I am also sure that them are some valid reasons as to why people are leaving as well. I know for me, I dont mind the other reasons near as much as being killed as a noob for my shoes and clothes!
     
  5. Scuzzlebutt

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    I have talked to a few vets that have played this game for a long time and some that played it back when it first started and there was only a siege. There was no productioin shards to speak of. So the question I have then is why is there only 1 siege now and a lot of production shards?

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    Not sure which Vets you spoke with but the production shards were developed first then Siege came in a couple years later as an advanced shard for veteran players. This December marked my 10th year in this game, I got it as a gift on Christmas of 97. There always has been and always will be an "enforcer/griefer" guild on every single shard you play on. Dont believe me? Go to any production shard and try to complete a Baracoon champ spawn in Felucca and see if you dont have a group anywhere from 20-30 strong run in and push you out. Its the felucca mindset, you are here for extra rewards and we are going to make you earn them.
     
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    let me rephrase my question

    Did elfstone leave a heated I'm quitting because "......." killed me and looted my shoes post?
     
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    Well.... i think that other shards are easy to play. You can buy gold from ***, insur them and play as you wish. Those shard have many additional programs with real money such as advanced character and another. But this is not work on Siege. Only Siege bless item for each char. They need train hard and learn "siege life". And many of this people do not want to work on their character, they like easy life. Because many people gaming for rest. Its their choice.

    But i think we have many new people instead of quitting people. And this life, this olddays playing style....forever! [​IMG]
     
  8. Scuzzlebutt

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    That reminds me of another player from about 8 months ago. He used to come onto the boards and CRY everytime someone killed him or was otherwise mean to him. I remember this one time he was lured by a PK to a secluded spot and then was absolutely surprised and shocked when this PK actually... you know... PK'd him. Anyone remember who that guy was?
     
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    That reminds me of another player from about 8 months ago. He used to come onto the boards and CRY everytime someone killed him or was otherwise mean to him. I remember this one time he was lured by a PK to a secluded spot and then was absolutely surprised and shocked when this PK actually... you know... PK'd him. Anyone remember who that guy was?

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    I remember a time I was killed by Masu AFTER I was told by NEW that he can be trusted as a friend of NEW.

    If that is what your are referring to?
     
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    Coming to these forums frothing at the mouth and spewing insults, profanity and personal attacks is going to win little sympathy. Very little. *frowns*
     
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    I was wondering what the back story was on this
     
  12. Scuzzlebutt

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    Oh that was you?!? How embarrassing... I had no idea.
     
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    Oh that was you?!? How embarrassing... I had no idea.

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    yea , lol , you're so funny, oh golly I don't think I can contain my laughter, ho ho , heh , ha, ROLF ROTFLMAO ROLF-a-copter


    actually I am not embarrassed at all, I still believe NEW should be embarrassed offering some sort of protection by a tag

    they should promote their guild as a helper in items and friendship , but remember anyone without the NEW tag will kill you , and trust no one.

    Instead of the "some people will respect the tag" theory they are still going with. Thats all I was asking in my original cry, but nobody could see my point of view.
     
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    Mechanic you used to come on these boards every single day and cry...

    Least you stopped that... Good Man! [​IMG]

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    QFT

    He became known as Me-Wah-nic very quickly in our vent.
     
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    Mechanic you used to come on these boards every single day and cry...

    Least you stopped that... Good Man! [​IMG]

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    QFT

    He became known as Me-Wah-nic very quickly in our vent.

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    I'm starting to remember why I stopped posting here
     
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    *chuckles* Don't let 'em bait you.
     
  17. Scuzzlebutt

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    <blockquote><hr>

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    Mechanic you used to come on these boards every single day and cry...

    Least you stopped that... Good Man! [​IMG]

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    QFT

    He became known as Me-Wah-nic very quickly in our vent.

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    I'm starting to remember why I stopped posting here

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    *crosses fingers and closes eyes*

    *whispers a wish*

    Please remember...
    Please remember...
    Please remember...
     
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    Ya! Listen to Kelmo. After years of mod'ing this board, he's an expert on baiting. He rarely falls for it anymore.
     
  19. I see you are trying to understand something that there is really no explination for except that if you have to ask, then you just don't get the excitement of the power of being free to be bad... Honor is for the behavior of the color of blue... This is a game of good verses evil... a power game of who is good enough to control territory... Has nothing to do with who you are or how new you are... If you risk yourself to those stronger, and they win, then they have the power of deciding the consequences... It is not personal.. honor the defeat... What it should do is then make you be more determined to come back at them which is great motive for becoming strong and skilled too... you will loose a lot at first... everyone did and does...

    Watch what they do and remember it and their name... Then get in the game and have the fun of the excitement... if you win... you decided how nice you want to be because you know what? You will have that power..

    If you can bring yourself to this mindset, then you will find excitement and fun worth the work and the dying... we all did it... and we still do..
     
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    back to stealth caster

    alot of the pk guilds code is to dryloot and dispose of said goods in trash or hidden area. That is the seige way - on prod shards with insurance it doesnt happen.

    instead of asking guilds to stop we need to ask more ppl to start pvp'in and killing and anti-pvp'in and things. and trash talkin is part of that.
    I think I would leave seige if everyone was too honerable. I like the danger and soap box of all this.

    I too have started uo in the beginning and there first was only about 5 prod shards with 1 type of land. then after a year seige opened with a few different rules. another few years later they added the different types of lands (fel tram)

    anyhow, anyone that cant take the heat needs to get out and back to your safety shards.

    Lorddog
     
  21. pikon198

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    That reminds me of another player from about 8 months ago. He used to come onto the boards and CRY everytime someone killed him or was otherwise mean to him. I remember this one time he was lured by a PK to a secluded spot and then was absolutely surprised and shocked when this PK actually... you know... PK'd him. Anyone remember who that guy was?

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    was it ME????

    Hehe i thought Mechanic was new around here...
     
  22. Hey like I said I dont mind having a guild to hate. Only brings more fun to the game. It is all in fun, I am sure one day I will have my fun as well.
     
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    Insolent, despicable blues have to be looted and when it is a robe and shoes. Blues have to be punished, they are bad and they smell [​IMG]

    Dont take it personal, its nothing against you. Grab new stuff and move on. In my opinion is it the excitement here on Siege, the possibility that I can everywhere get killed or kill others.
     
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    ***Insolent blue sticks out her tongue and knows she can remake whatever they take off of her....and laughs** AND I BATHE so I dont stink NAHnah !

    Byte em oh wait yall have ! HAHA

    *trots off singing happy songs of sunshines and rainbows and bluebie joys...just a whistling*
     
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    Well see that is why ya try to make a few friends with crafters. [​IMG] We can make ya better boots or shoes anyhow than that UO given new junk they give us all when we make new characters. [​IMG] HOW many pair ya want ??? Go off a liz man or cow or heck I got some hides ... I can make ya more footwear for nothing or close. [​IMG]

    One thing ya have to keep in mind here ...........HONOR is not for them playin evil. And some just greedy butts anyhow can not even be civil to say welcome to Siege the first time they off someone. So think of a few of em like *bad sex* its over fast, ya can read a magazine till they get done, and no satisfaction in encountering em but one sided...and move on ! [​IMG]

    Does that sort hinder or help the growth or diminishing population here ? Depends whom they are really. . IN character or OUT of character...be nice if some took a bit more time to just say welcome to Siege now and then with their first kills of newer ones here.

    Everyone gets frustrated esp. when newer here. Once that stuff no longer bothers you; nor you let it even bug ya much nor often, you are then set free ya know, to come and go and do as you wish on Siege, regardless of what any of the others here do to or at ya.. ever.
     
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    Wow, reading these posts I think that people have really missed the point my guildies were trying to make. In fact reading the posts, gives me the opinion that me explaining it is probably a waste of time because you just read bits and peices and decide what someone meant, for your own convienence.
    Pking happens, looting happens, that is why we are on siege and not a production shard. That is not something that stealth needs told. Its obvious.
    Niether he or I are new enough to the point where we expect any slack nor would we want it.

    He is posting for the benefit of those who are still in the first 3 week phase and areent even aloud to do thier first rot's cause certain peeps like to go and gank obviously defensless peeps. If someone is training on lizardmen then really its not a quality kill. It a waste of your time and it will take longer for them to become a productive member of this shard.

    And if your in KOC and you take offence that these claims are made on your guild, because you have never done that well too bad. Your a guild, its not a new concept in gaming. I have been playing online games since 96. What some guild members do, brings a reputation to all that carry that tag. If you dont like that reputation then police your people. If you like that reputation thats fine to, relish in, but dont brag about being a bully one minute, then whine about it the next," oh i dont do that I am all nice". Shut up.

    This is just a game, I am not going to get all bent out of shape about it like some of you computer nerd losers who obviously have nothing else in life.
    KOC in all actuality makes me happy, gives me an enemy. A way to know that each time I log in, I am gonna kill or be killed that is fun. Attack me, I will you as soon as I build up a little more skills. I am about to go through some template adjusting which weakens me up for a couple weeks.

    Really just leave the noobs alone and please stop whining about what templates people use. They are options everyone has deal with it.
     
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    Really just leave the noobs alone and please stop whining about what templates people use. They are options everyone has deal with it.

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    Que?

    [​IMG]
     
  28. Whutupcuz

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    *hands FoV some tissues* and you have not even meet DA FUDD yet [​IMG]
     
  29. I do understand what you are saying Dr House; it's not just falling on deaf ears; but unfortunately this is Seige and thats just the way it is here. Will some people get discouraged and leave, yes, and thats unfortunate. Thats why NEW is here. Its a great place to begin and learn the ways of this land. Most guilds won't kill a NEW player wearing their guild tag because they do feel the same as you; but there are others who will kill because it is just the role they play and hopefully that will give the NEW player the excitement of what Seige is. The most important thing you can do is see who is who, pick your friends and ally's wisely. There are asshats here of course, but there are also really great people that will lend you a hand and help you get started. Your reputation will go a long way here whatever you will decide to be. Seige is a family that you learn to love and love to hate. Welcome aboard!
     
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    Hey people that loot stuff off you, cut it up and/or then just trash it do it because they suck at life and have to get off greifing people that would kick their fat pimple riddled ass in real life. So don't worry about it let those real life losers get their kicks in a game.

    FYI I can careless who, dry loots me, throws my stuff away, or talks craps to me, because it's just a game and when all is said and done I actually feel sorry for them.
     
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    MY god, we created a monster Blindside and I... People , It was a simple fight, just went on for a hour or 2 and then another hour of simple smack talk between first Blindside and myself then Kage had to step in and hold Blindsides hand and boost him up a little cause he was getting punkd. Then I punkd that fool too and he STFU as well and I went to bed... I'm happy on siege and will not quit!!! My plane is to become one of those idiots that doesnt fight for him self and lets his pets do all work!!! I'll except what ever I have to do to kill KOC on site everytime I see them in the very near future and then maybe as a community we can be rid of those PK ****s KOC... We are looking for guilds to allaine with us that feel the same about those jerks "KOC" and then we as a group will come down on them like the rath of god!!!!

    In retro spect some people in KOC are good people like 3 and you know who you are and I do value my friendship with you few that are decent human beings....
    But some your hommies need a lesson and simple human behavior is all I'm saying !!! I had a blast last night and was not pissed off in anyway !!!!
    IT WAS ALL IN GOOD FUN PEOPLE, NO 1 WAS CRYING !!!! LMAO ROFL at what this has turned into !!!!! PEACE FOOLS [​IMG]
     
  32. From Puffy and Elmer Fudd as Gm's of KoC, we say!!!


    LOOOOOOOTTTTT EMMMMMMM DRYYYYY!!! SOOO---- THEY--- Can---Cry Cry Cry!!!


    Tear Filled Cupcakes 4 U!
     
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    You still wanna see my rubble fudd???
     
  34. Yes I do?

    Are You a Girl or a Guy!

    And how nice is your rubble?


    LOL
    Cupcakes 4 U!
     
  35. Guest

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    Im in luna now burning off time to go back blue come mmet met and see. Ps heres a clue. My toon has boobs....lol [​IMG].
     
  36. Kat SP

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    Dr House, The point is, crying about it here on the boards isn't going to help much. If your "noobs" need to train and are having difficulty because of PK's, go and protect them. Work together. Rely on each other. Thats how it is here. This isn't Trammel, where any of us can walk around in our little protective bubble, totally unaffected by other players.

    We were all noobs once too. We've been through the same thing, in fact my nemesis was Peaches of VmP. She found me just about everywhere I trained and killed me daily for while, until I smartened up. I switched up my training locations and also trained hide/stealth so I could have some chance of getting away, if I couldn't fight.
     
  37. Guest

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    Did you even read what I said ??? NO ONE'S CRYING !!!! GOD this crap is way beond anything i even intended ....
     
  38. Kat SP

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    Was I responding to you? Gah, quit flipping out already. In case you hadn't noticed, I was responding to Dr House.
     
  39. Guest

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    No one's flipping out, just stating the facts since you don't know them....
     
  40. Guest

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    The post I removed was pretty tearful. *nods* Now chill folks. Be cool, like Fonzy.
     
  41. Guest

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    AHHHHHHHHHHHHH [​IMG]
     
  42. I love that scene in Pulp fiction when Sam jackson says that.

    JULES
    Nobody's gonna hurt anybody. We're
    gonna be like three Fonzies. And
    what' Fonzie like?

    No answer,

    JULES
    C'mon Yolanda, what's Fonzie like?

    YOLANDA
    (through tears, unsure)
    He's cool?

    JULES
    Correct-amundo! And that's what
    we're gonna be, we're gonna be
    cool.

    Love that movie
     
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    *smiles*