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EM Drop Solution, Will Make All Happy :)

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Cyanide_Mage, Jan 31, 2015.

  1. Cyanide_Mage

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    As we can see there has been a ton of interest as of late involving the em drop system, some people aren't happy cause they "never get drops", some are angry because they feel the extra time put in isn't being rewarded due to the fact people who spend less time have the same chance at an item, and others just need something to complain about so this is the topic of the month to complain about :). Here is a simple solution that will make the common player, the hardcore multi char event player, the rares collector, and the person who wants a keep sake player happy.

    Keep the system of "Looting rights = chance at drop"
    Increase drop number to 30 BUT make it 10x 3 different type drops, or 15x 2 different types of drops. Each person who achieves looting rights can only qualify for one drop.

    By doing this a few things will happen:

    Instead of 10-20 getting drops now 30 will, this will give the *I NEVER GET A DROP!* person a little better chance, it will also give the keep sake person a better chance at a drop.

    The hardcore multi char player will have a better chance at being rewarded because now they have a better chance at multiple drops AND multiple different drops.

    The elite rares collector will be happy because the rarity of items will be preserved, each drop would still maintain its 10-15 drop rarity

    AND an unforseen outcome could occur, a sense of community interaction might be created due to the fact Player A gets drop, Player B gets different drop, player B wants As drop and A wants B drop, they can *gasp* trade with each other!

    Ta da, simple easy solution that makes the majority of all players happy, Increase drops to 30 but create 3 different drops with 10 quantity.
     
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  2. Smoot

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    trying to be constructive, but i still dont see how this promotes wanting to get better at the game or making your character better. still promotes "illegal" third party programs needed for best results. Eventually every shard will be a 30-50 drop anyway.
     
  3. Cyanide_Mage

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    Increasing the drop rates to 30-50 doesn't solve the problem you bring up. That is an issue that needs to be addressed throughout the game, not just at em events. Increasing drops doesn't, and wont deter those using those programs.
     
  4. Smoot

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    im not saying icreasing the drop rate does solve the problem, but its just a fact they will go up. thats the devs "solution" not mine. im not sure exact numbers but its a standard number of people / drop ratio as it is right now.
     
  5. Lythos-

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    Events should be canceled. They make up 85% of the threads on here and nobody can agree on anything period.
     
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  6. virtualhabitat

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    Events should continue. Event threads should be locked as they make up 85% of the threads because everyone thinks they must have a thread of their own -period.
     
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  7. Lord Taliesin

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    It would probably be a hastle to code but they could do drops based on a hybrid system. So the top 5 to 10 damagers get a drop and then the other 10 or so are randomly awarded to the other people who get looting rights. Folks who want to participate but don't have top end event throwers have a chance while also rewarding those who put the effort in to making a maxed out character.
     
  8. MalagAste

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    How about since there are too many multiboxers showing up upping the number of players present they just up the drops to 40 to make up for all the "bonus" people there and then code it so the same IP can't get a second drop...
     
  9. Merlin

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    Seriously, this is such an unimportant area that developer's shouldn't be addressing. Everyone needs to stop crying about the EM drops and EM events.

    Only offer drops at one out of every 4 or 5 EM events. Maybe it would thin out the crowd a bit.
     
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  10. SpyderBite

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    Crying about EM events had been a staple of the UO culture since they were introduced.

    There's no reason to try and stifle it now. No matter how fair and balanced or unfair and unbalanced the drops are; the people who don't get a drop will complain. Further, if everybody gets a drop, the traders will complain about the lack of value of the rewards.
     
  11. Gidge

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    I don't care if there are drops or not but...
    How about having to loot something that drops off a corpse then turning in into a "box" for something that pops into your backpack. This way the people participating actually get (a chance at) something. One item per monster. X amount of monsters.
     
  12. The Craftsman

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    Just give everyone a drop and have done with it.

    Its an Event. Not a Competition. Although this seems to have been forgotten by the greedy players and their lust for a billion gold item
     
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  13. Lady Laurel

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    I like this idea :) The people that are there for the lore and storyline will continue to attend, but the people that are there ONLY for a drop will be less likely to attend.
     
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    thats kinda unfair, if you pay for 2 accounts it shouldnt matter if you get a drop on both of them. i play an acct and my hubby plays one. should he not get a drop just because i did? and some people have kids that play along with their spouse. i like the way stuff drops now, even with 50 flappys at events i still have a shot to get something.....i rarely ever do but since the change in distribution i have got 3 things compared to my 0 before that.
     
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  15. Herman

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    I kinda like the random dropp but here is another idea


    What if there was no set number of dropps every player that reach the pre set number of dmg/healing will get a dropp that way you will only ever compete with yourself

    It still favour elite players but who get a dropp is in the hands of the devs (if they want more people to get dropps they just lower the pre set number of healing/dmg)
     
  16. MalagAste

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    Is it "fair" that some jerk comes with 10 accounts on autopilot and gets 3 while you get ZERO and you are actually "working" your account and he's only actually "working" one?

    This is the kind of crap that goes on that seriously irritates me and makes me just want to say give the game to the freaking cheating SoB's I'm done with it... if that's the kind of players they want to cater to then.... so be it. They can have the **** game and I'll find something to play where they actually stand behind their ToS.

    I'm tired of coming to the forums and seeing message after message about this and that person losing their account, their house falling and they couldn't do anything but sit by and watch because the Origin Store is such a freaking joke..., they can't get back in to their Mythic account for X reason or Y reason and before it gets resolved they have lost everything... because the freaking services take MONTHS to get straightened out. We don't have months. Honestly my disgust is growing by the day ..... and all I can think is WTF??? And what happens to new players? What is going to happen when they go to Steam and bring in potential new players? Are these issues going to "magically" go away or are they only going to multiply? What about getting GM help? Is that going to "magically" improve? I highly doubt it.

    I'm tired of seeing this stuff. I can only imagine how Bonnie feels seeing stuff like this day in day out.... Along with the probable 100's of desperate emails I'm sure she receives.
     
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    Yep...as long as he's paying for those 10 accounts it is...

    Why should you have the same chance at an item when the jerk is paying $130 on his 10 accounts and your paying only $13 on your single account?
     
  18. JC the Builder

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    You are never going to make everyone happy. It is a literal impossibility.

    Every single person gets a drop - items are not special and worthless
    Top damagers get a drop - people who don't do damage or have high damage templates complain
    Completely random - it is random and some people will end up being unlucky
    Solve something to get a drop - people who can't solve it will complain

    They can only do what you think is best.
     
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    How about have the drop system check account records and have it limit the drops to only one per credit card, player name, or IP address. Perhaps even have it toss a drop back into the pool if the same identifier comes up again and everyone gets another chance at it, discouraging multi-boxing.

    A problem with giving it to those who do the most damage is it favors those who have done exotic skill combinations to do mega-high damage and have super duper weapons that do mega-high damage, leaving out everyone else who play more normal characters and can't kill the top end monsters with a mere flick of the wrist.
     
  20. Captn Norrington

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    I highly doubt a game as old as UO would have the capability to do something as complicated as checking every single person's account information at every event. The account management system is already badly messed up, I don't even want to imagine the damage linking the drop system to it would cause.....
     
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    Nope .... as if someone is playing 10 accounts at once then they are obviously using a third party program to map key strokes across multiple machines and using third party programs is against the TOS.
     
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    Meany. That's not gonna work because I'll get mad I didn't get two kinds of wins. :sad4:
     
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    Drop count based of the number of characters there. Multi boxers will just be shooting themselves in the foot. More drops = less rare.

    Been to long. We need another invasion that last a month. And none this BS where things worth killing are immune to bards, pets and summons.
     
  24. MalagAste

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    FYI I have 10 accounts. ... the difference is that I bring only one character to the events and follow the ToS. ...
     
  25. Lord Gandalf

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    If only buyers knew how overpriced and unreal are the amounts spent on these items. Giving those items so much attention and writing about them makes them valuable, but if u think about it, ur just getting something common dyed and with a different name. 0 effort by them EM to create it, and 0 effort for the player who is getting the item.. And on the other side dupers and money makers are the happy, coz they buy them and turn there checks into fixed currency, put more liquidity in the market and inflate the game... I support the idea of having much harder quests with potential pvp/pve action, at least players will try to manage to stay alive to get a guarantied drop upon loot right... This way prices will definitly drop, i cant believe last EM drop sold for 750mill on forums, this is like 1year+ free subscription? Shame on you! Its obvious that templates running with 300ping coming from another shards just come grabbing those EM drops to make $$$ out of it ;)
     
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    If all of you cant agree on anything... how do you expect the game to do get it "right"? How about we all just sit back, relax and enjoy what we can and let the rest just slide off the old shoulders... :)

    *waves white flag*
     
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    The sky high gold prices of em drops have certaily riased the eyebrows of many players ....... like it was said ....750m to 1 billion for one drop???...is this how em events were meant?? i serouisly doubt it...the Devs need to sort this out...more people are unhappy than happy...crazy...crazy..
     
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  28. Capt. Lucky

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    Some events should have a "clicky" where everyone there gets something. Even items that everyone gets still fall into the rather rare category by the time the cross shard traders gets done. Even something like the Broadsword plaque aren't very common and they were available for a long time on every shard. Don't have to do this for every event, but every now and then it would be really nice.
     
  29. Eros

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    Maybe what should be dropping is artifacts that are already in the game. Then cheaters wouldn't be inclined as much to attend these events.
     
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