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Enough is Enough

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Calibretto, Oct 15, 2009.

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  1. Calibretto

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    I had a hand in the scam of Diablo. I was in vent with roland one evening, the evening of the incident. I read a post by Diablo saying he wanted to buy an account, and that he would give the gold up front. I said in vent, man someone should rob his ass, he's always scamming people. I then went on a told the story of what he did to Duke. And how someone should get his ass back for what he did. Next thing I hear in vent is Roland setting up a deal with Diablo to sell Roland. I at first thought he was joking. Then he told me Diablo just handed the money to Colton instead of Roland. And he kept the money and gave no account info.

    Funny at first yeah. But after a while it wasen't so funny. No matter what a **** Diablo is no need to be like him. I tried to get Roland to give back the money. He said he give back half, so I told Diablo he could have half back. But nothing was ever done. And still to this day Diablo has no money.



    I had a part in this yes, I lied to my friends and guildmates and said I didn't know anything. Yet I did. I can;'t live with it, even thou I don't know any of you in RL I still had to say the truth. If GIL and the WC wants me to leave thats fine, I'll move on. I apologize for what happened, it had no honor.


    No one else in the WC had know idea what went on. And Roland would have been booted immediatly if it wasen't for my lies and misdirection. So don't blame them. Blame me for the fall from grace. I alone face the shard with the truth. Judge me as you will.

















    And Roland, just give the ****in money back man.
     
  2. Tiberius

    Tiberius Babbling Loonie
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    That took some big brass ones right there.
     
  3. Speedy Orkit

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    You made a joke, it was taken to heart. Don't blame yourself Cali, you are a player who I believe everyone on the shard holds in high respects. To beat yourself up over it is ridiculous, you had no real part in it, and knowing about it doesn't make you guilty.
     
  4. Roland, how about give the gold to someone Diablo screwd over... Like Orbi.
    He only got less then half his stuff back in gold. So I say give it to Orbi.

    As far as being shocked, I'd have to say NO. GiL is not the good guys you people make it out to be, nor is any of it's alliances. Look at their GM for god's sake, Vortex. Please, what a joke. Biggest A HOLE this side of Texas.
    I think you should be double whopper with cheese canned right away but knowing what comes out from you guys they'll just sweep it under the rug like everything else.
    GiL and it's alliances = FAIL
     
  5. Orbi

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    thx soul
    and yea that will be fine and fair
    thats all XD thx
     
  6. Chad Sexington

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    This.

    :scholar:
     
  7. T'Challa

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    There are much larger baconrings on this shard than V.

    Truth be told...
     
  8. Thanks for being honest Calibretto.

    Orbi, please contact me, I still have a mil for you.
    9-626-593 (Elaine)
     
  9. Tiberius

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    A fine idea.
     
  10. Ole Cheapy

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    Are you kidding me????? You CANNOT do this and think it is the right thing to do, the ONLY right thing to do is to give it back to who you stole it from or keep it and face your moral consequences but you cannot go around playing God and determining which evil is more evil than the next crime and whatnot! Wow what a freaking community!
     
  11. Ole Cheapy

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    Cal: Coming clean like you did was very brave and admirable but you are still an accomplice to a crime nonetheless and deserve to be punished and or booted.
     
  12. Why not? In this case 2 wrongs will make a right...
     
  13. Ole Cheapy

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    Because it's saying it's ok to scam just as long as the end justifies the means.

    Edit: I cannot believe the trash this shard has become.
     
  14. Scuzzlebutt

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    They do, and does your PO know your on the internet?
     
  15. Ole Cheapy

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    You see when someone gets scammed it hurts us all in the long run cause chances are if Diablo hadn't got scammed he probably would have never scammed Orbi. No one wins when the shard becomes a big scam fest.
     
  16. QueenZen

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    Since I am not God I do my best to 'TRY' not to judge folks ! But I am not perfect either yet.

    Two wrongs never make a right but then YOU yourself did not do the deed.
    You expressed an opinion out loud that many folks probably had thought of silently that someone anyone should scam a scammer, but yeh that just makes two wrongs not making it right. But you did not do the deed, you just expressed the thought. Keepin it secret from ye guild ...well that is their business to deal with ya if they so choose to do so.

    AS for clumping all folks within any guild on Siege as the same as one whom may fall from grace so to speak ...I always felt that is wrong. There are too many variables of too many innocents to HANG an entire guild as the same cloth as one that went astray. It is up to the guild leaders to try to deal with issues with folks as they happen. But often folks crucify whomever HERE before they even contact the guild leaders of *insert guild here* and they label all of them as crud !

    That is so wrong ! Reminds me of bigotry. OH if so and so is this religion this race this ethic whatever then they must be the same as...the bad apples of that group race religion guild etc. trials without jury are lynch mob mentality.

    Folks dislike this one or that in TNT they ALL must be ...trash.

    Folks dislike this one or that one in GIL they ALL must be trash.

    and so on and so forth.

    When something happened with OTF some yrs. back ...they ALL must be trash !
    When someone did not like the actions of one REV they ALL must be trash.

    When someone did not like the actions of this or that VMP well they all must be trash.

    They sport SP ohhhh they must be as bad as *insert whoever here* all the same.

    Crucify an entire group for actions of one. Yes birds of a feather do flock together ...but even there, up to the gm to deal with crap within their own flock, not the entire shard !

    All scammers all haxxors all cheaters all trash...cuz they all bear same GUILD TAG right ? No matter who the hell it is and personally I am sick of Siege players condemning entire guilds, over the actions of one of its members...yeh even them other guys, when as far as we know [only one person via his assorted chrs]. has pulled crap on folks here but, hey HANG EM ALL !

    Pardon the OLD LADY NOVELISTIC RANT...but one guy got crucified ages ago and he oft said...he whom is without sin can cast that first stone...sooo...
    I am not going to cast stones at entire guilds for ONE person's moment of maybe screwing up ! Humans screw up all the time...folks forget FORGIVENESS entirely...keep on draggin up crap...stoning folks over and over years after the fact even ! WAY TO GO SIEGE ! :( hrmm.

    LET GO people or Siege itself will never heal and if yall keep harpin like an in game harpy or banshee at others sins, in due time all folks turn a deaf ear seeing it all as regurgitating more of the same sniping at same folks over and over again !

    NOT one guild here is PERFECT cuz each is full of humans beings and human beings all can easily.. FK UP ! GET OVER IT people, build this community UP instead of everyone tearing down everyone, or board pvp insulting everyone else that is sporting a different guild tag ! I want my community back HERE !
    * & hang me too for being opinionated and wordy* :(
     
  17. geni

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    i think the correct quote of adama is "you cannot play god then turn your back on what you have created"
    to see any of you talk of wrong and right is absolutely hilarious
    there is not one among you who is without sin so throwing of stones is not what you all should be doing.
    calibretto should be an example for all of you ON HOW NOT TO BE A DEUCHE BAGS.
    roland should be an example for all of you on how NOT to get revenge.

    heres a bit of my philosophy, god gave us free will to make choices we live with those choices everyday we have no one to blame but ourselves for those good or bad choices.

    ohh and this is Verum Look it up It means Truth in Latin.
     
  18. T'Challa

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    QFT, many of the folks throwing stones on this forum of late are questionable souls in their own right.

    Cheapy's right, this shard has degraded itself to production shard levels.

    Wonder if I should just save myself the $30 a month...
     
  19. Kael

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    Diablo was scamming waaaaaaaaay before this Cheapy......reread the post. It says Roland did this as a means to get back at Diablo for his vile scamming ways.

    I agree if gold is returned...give it to orbi. Two wrongs dont make a right....but to Orbi at least it's 15 million reasons better than the 30 million reasons he lost :)
     
  20. Tjalle

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    From what I get from your post, the only "crime" you committed was this.

    And yes, some people´s trust in you might take a beating but that would only be understandable.

    But given the circumstances, personally, I trust you just as much as I did before.

    I disagree.

    I´ve thought about it and I think that if any gold is to be given out, it should be returned to Diablo.

    Sure, Orbi deserves it but that is the conclusion I´ve come to...
     
  21. T'Challa

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    Look at that other thread. That icq log doesn't prove ****.

    Not saying Diablo isn't trash, but you guys are throwing accusations around like peanut shells in an Irish bar. Sooner or later someone innocent will get accused and that ain't right.
     
  22. I was on ICQ with Orbi when it was going down. I told Orbi that Diablo was on his dads account "Edward Longshanks" and not to trust him. I know it went down,
    Lucky for Orbi this time he had someone to tell him that it was Diablo...
     
  23. kelmo

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    Do not fight this war here...
     
  24. Vortex

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    Cali, it took guts to admit to this. What happens from here is a private matter so we will discuss it elsewhere.

    Soul Collector, I know you hate me, but could you please show the hate under your Elfstone login or your Soul Collector login and not both please?
     
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