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enough is enouhg it's time for a change!!!!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Asahina Yajinden, Dec 23, 2008.

  1. i play mainly on a low population shard , which to me is great i have very few negative remarks to say about it..... having said that.......

    is anyone else tired of not being able to find a pet rez for they're mount?
    the stable master needs to offer this in my opinion.

    even on a more populated shard i'm sure people run into this.

    and if your not in a guild your pretty much s.o.l. just waiting on the kindness of someone.......personally i will switch char's and help somone out due to being stuck in the same situation several time's myself.

    so how bout it dev's help us non tamers out... this is a gold sink i'd gladly pay1k , 3k per rez..

    thought's anyone?
     
  2. Fink

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    If your horse dies, you can buy another horse for around 500gp from the stablemaster.
     
  3. Alvinho

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    A few different choices, Ethy pets, if not old enough a charger of teh fallen, with all teh gold dropping frmo the ilshnar champions lately, within a day you shoudl be able to buy one and faster if you are lucky enough to get a drop off a champion
     
  4. BakeryGnome

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    i have had this thought several times...i think it is a great idea...and i was raised on Cat/Atl, which are populated. Wonderful idea!
     
  5. gunneroforgin

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    I have seen the issue before. I think some pet rez deeds or as you said a stablemaster with the power to rez pets would be a good thing. As you have vendors on the CCC guild house, if I had seen you, I would have rezed your pet. I am sure most ccc members would. Unfortunatly, I have being experiencing computer issues and have not been able to play.
     
  6. Madrid

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    Absolutely.Long overdue same with repair deeds from Archers, Tinkers, Fletchers and Carpenters. Just make it cost more so that players can provide the service for less than what NPC's charge.

    Just today someone walked into Luna (Sonoma) with a dead pet and the bank must have 20 people or more people in it.

    "Can anyone res?"

    "No" was the reply...

    This should have be implemented a long time ago.
     
  7. Kellgory

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    We have healers roaming the countryside that will rez people, and we have shrines that will rez people. I think it is about time to have roaming pet healers and shrines that will rez pets.
     
  8. slayer888

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    I have an idea about this as follow:-

    NPC will charge based on the control slot of the pet.

    For example,

    1 control slot = 500 golds
    2 control slot = 1,000 golds
    3 control slot = 2,000 golds
    4 control slot = 4,000 golds
    5 control slot = 8,000 golds


    People with over 100 Vet will be able to make these kind of deeds as well. The deeds made by the Vet will be able to res any kind of dead pets.

    So the players could set each deed costs something around in the middle.

    Say more expensive than NPC 1/2 control slot price. But somewhat cheaper than the 4/5 control slot price...

    So to have the market able to run for these sort of items as well.


    Another thing is, if the pet died. Within the first 5 minutes, it could NOT be ressed by either the deed or the NPC stablemaster.

    The Deed could only be used in Stables in town.

    Hope the above idea is clear.
     
  9. Sweeney

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    There is a vet in Britain.. that should be the npc to use. Regular animal trainers wouldn't know such truck (I love Huckleberry Finn).
     
  10. Spree

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    Maybe for a horse or a blue beetle But not any higher pets. Tamers could drop vet off their templates and use deeds to res pet. PVP tamers would more over powered and a PVM tamer would have extra 100- 120 skill to add to their templates.
     
  11. Sindris

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    I can't speak for all, but I know most of the stuff I fight (PvM) more or less requires me to have vet to keep them alive. Greater Heals just don't cut it in most cases. The pet rez vendors would be ok, but they wouldn't tempt me to drop vet if they existed. I'd just end up spending a lot more time at the rezzer.

    I can't see why they wouldn't offer pet rez deeds though, they have ruined pretty much every other aspect of the game that required player interactivity for skill based services, may as well just throw in the towel on the whole thing at this point.
     
  12. Zodiac19

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    I agree to this in a somewhat limited capacity. Make it to where a GM vet can make rez deeds or the NPC vets can pet rez but only the own by any one pets like horses, packies, blue and fire beetles, ect. If you have enough taming to own bigger pets you should be able to care for them on your own.
     
  13. Arch Magus

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    Re-read his post.

    "Only used at the Stable master's"

    PVP'ers could do that now if they WANTED to. That's their choice if they don't want to be able to heal their pet. Who says they can't drop Vet now?

    PVM'ers on the other hand. Drop Vet? How will they heal their tank pet?
    Why on Earth would a PVM'er drop Vet? What 100-120 points is more useful than Vet for a tamer?


    Agree with the OP btw.. Pet rezzes should be available.
     
  14. cucujanu

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    if u drop vet ,u would loose ur stable slots. no tamer would do that.
     
  15. Viper09

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    Hmm, how about a mystical purple llama that wanders around a certain location, maybe luna, that will res dead pets.

    Fun and practical :p
     
  16. Farscape

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    What is wrong with your feet?
    walk
     
  17. Flora Green

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    I've never understood why this isn't offered by Veterinarian NPC's.
     
  18. Zodiac19

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    For PvM, I would drop vet on my t-hunter. This would give me at least 100 extra skill points I could gladly use on something else. My main tamer never.
     
  19. i wiuld go one step further and say blue beetles and swampys should be buyable from stables masters as well no tamer can be bothered from his bank sitting to go tame a creature worth so little !!

    and please dont say this will put tamers out of money no one is taming these low end creatures for cash (if you can tame these your putting on jewels and taming real money makers anyway) but if this was true simply allow these pets to be sold to npcs to off set these huge losses
     
  20. Der Rock

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    maybe you missed it, but this game needs more new plants and futton-replica :wall:
    that will bring NEW player :lol:
    if you ask for a pet rez station ? you can also :talktothehand:
    standing lost in Luna with the dead pet is:lame:
    but maybe it helps the:grouphug: community:lol:
     
  21. Wenchkin

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    NPC resurrections only, and for "anyone can own" pets only too. Otherwise tamers will abandon vet skill even more than some have already and resurrection scrolls would do for vet tamers what repair deeds did for smiths and tailors. Yes, interaction is a dirty word in UHall, but if you don't want to interact you could use the NPC.

    Or *gasp* use an ethy or buy a new mount! Everyone forgot that once upon a time we didn't have resurrectable pets? If you don't want to fuss with having a tamer res your pets, fill stables with spare mounts and just use another when the old one dies.

    But it amazes me though, with all the players who have tamer alts, nobody can add a few tamers to their ICQ contacts list? Sometimes I wonder if some non-tamers try to solve their own problems before they try to get res NPCs or worse still, deeds. Are you guys as helpless as you make out, or just trying to cut tamer interaction out of your pet resurrection?

    Wenchy
     
  22. I have been know to stand in Luna during some events and rez both pets and players. I am legendary vet and I need it. When I take my pets to fight some of the monsters I have to stand there and use bandaids as I heal more damage than with magery. Unfortunately, when I have my mount die for my other characters I do need to go to Luna and look for a rez for them, if no guildies are on. So a place we can get pets rezzed would be nice. Would it mean tamers would drop vet? I am not sure, by using rings to get taming up I know some tamers already get just enough vet to rez their pet or heal it. If they want the stable slots they will have to raise it though. That is a mitigating factor, if a tamer wants all the pets he needs the slots.

    As to a charge, that would be acceptable. Most of the people who would be needing a pet rezzed would not be able to rez their own and the type of pets and number of slots would be limited.

    Now for the important thing.

    All the blessings of the season on you all, have a safe and merry holiday season.

    Asahina see you around Luna.
     
  23. the point of this is sometimes (like 4 am) and there's no one on and your sawmpie dies, or lesser hiryu sure you have an ethy, and a charger of the fallen..but will the ethy, or charger absorb 20% of damge like an armored swampy? will it attack like a lesser hiryu?
    i appreciate the offers for rez's ty vm.. i'm just syaing this is long over due imo!!

    in no way did i mean this to turn into a nerf the tamers thread i love my tamer!!
    its just that in this game you can do so much by yourself and sure i could icq somone i know to come help me out but why should somone have to stop what theyre doing for me.. i mean it's nice to have friends but i don't see how this is gonna cut player interaction at all.
     
  24. Tomas_Bryce

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    *scratches head*
     
  25. Sarphus

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    There are benefits and drawbacks to low pop shards.

    If you play on a low pop shard you are accepting the drawbacks...
     
  26. 5% Luck

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    Why not just keep lore/vet on a soul stone and swap it over when ya need the pet res!
     
  27. Tomas_Bryce

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    Just to add context to this argument, it was posted by a developer in the past that the feedback they received on this issue from Asian market was not to implement it.
     
  28. Sephy

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    how about a VET reward that Holds skills, you have to work say animal lore and vet to 80 or more, and then give them skills to the reward and in turn he can res pets on your account from your house?
     
  29. Spree

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    I have dog, he heals himself. I have tame, lore, mage, music, discordance. I soulstoned vet for provocation on my tamer right now. I only take him when I have some one else with me. If i didn't have to worry about pet dieing and could res with a dead why would I even need Vet?
     
  30. Spree

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    At the moment all my pets are locked in to the stable other than the dog I'm riding due to vet being soul stoned.
     
  31. house4saleUO

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    For PVP'rs that would be a advantage but not for PVM, Because if you drop your vet you loose your stable slots!!! Well most of them anyways.
     
  32. Spree

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    Then if a PVMer is not going to drop taming then the res deeds aren't an issue for res larger pets then. Res deeds for 1 slot pets and blue beetles only.
     
  33. MalagAste

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    Well I'm on a populated shard GL, and I can tell you I waited about for 30 min the other day trying to get someone to rez my pet...... Finally I just said to heck with this...... went and dual cliented and rezed my own stinking pet.....

    And as for all of you who say "Get a horse"..... well I have a paroxy swamp dragon I don't want a stinking horse..... I want my dragon.....

    I've suggested numerous times that they need to make the "vet" at Britain by the stables a pet rez npc.....

    I think it's sad that on GL (Oh and trust me there WERE Tamers at both Brit and Luna...) I couldn't get a single Tamer to rez my pet.... When I'm on my tamer I go out of my way to rez someones pet..... I guess the "age of chivalry" is defiantly dead..... as well so is kindness, teamwork, community and a host of other niceties in todays Me, Me, Me society.....

    Suppose that's what we get for raising folk to be intolerant, selfish, sue happy, greedy whiners. Karma..... Perhaps I should take comfort knowing that I'm not like that.
     
  34. what i mean as far as not affecting player interaction..
    if i am looking for a particular item that i can't craft myself i look on stratics.

    if i need to find out about an upcoming event on my shard usually stratics is the place to find it.

    as far as i can tell uo player interaction went away when they added repair deeds.... no more smitty's or tailor's repairing armor at the bank... from what i have read that's what you had to do ..... i cant' say from experiance cause i didn't start this wonderful game until samurai empire.
    but occassionally it does happen i seen a player form a now defunct guild (BTH) offering to help somone tame a greater dragon last night.

    sure occassionally you might meet somone and make a good contact for things you need for example flora green, i met by chance one eve and found a reliable source for pot's and orange petals, cassie darksong,crystal canyon, tamsin blight, beistee boy etc....

    but so far i have seen nothing but people quit, go to a free shard or just vanish off the face of sosaria.. and like i said if your not in a guild your s.o.l.

    i have been to much more populated shards and seen somone spamming over and over the same msg... yeh it works... but boring as all get out.

    and there's no chivalry anymore it's up to the players to look out for the players and sometimes there is no one who gives 2 s%*t's if your pet get's rezzed on to help ya out when ya need it!!!

    and as far as the asian shards heh heh F*%* them anyway!!!! when does 1 shard dictate the entire population of a game across several servers?
    if a shard doesnt defend a city during an invasion it goes bye bye..... hence no city etc in that spot on said shard so why not put it to a vote as a per shard vote? vet on stable master's yay or nay?

    i mean thank god EA doesn't listen to the posters on this forum cause every time i read a post..... it's make it like old uo all felluca rules blah blah no insurance,tramm sucks f ..in trammies..... times change and if you arent willing to change then your just chasing amy imo! thats my rant for the evening take it w salt or straight up your call....
     
  35. Crysta

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    It's so hard (sometimes) for a reason. The difficulty is the balance for being able to have a pet that doesn't vanish forever when it dies like an unbonded one does (the vanishing being the norm... remember, bonding is an achievement/bonus, not a standard... if it were standard all animals would come bonded when you tame them.).

    If anything.. it's another instance of it not being hard ENOUGH. It should also require some sort of rare item to res a pet along with the current vet requirements and lack of other methods (maybe a timer as well, even). As it stands, even WITH the difficulty of finding a res sometimes, the positives of bonding FAR outweigh the negatives, meaning pet bonding is heavily unbalanced.
     
  36. Fluffi

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    This suggestion has been raised (and ignored), many many times.


    Those in favour offer reasonable suggestions like:

    Only for anyone-can-own pets.
    Only at a designated town stable.
    Only for non-tamers.


    Those against say idiotic things like:

    ICQ some friends.
    It will destroy player interraction.
    Buy another horse.
    If you can't keep a pet alive, you shouldn't have one.



    No matter how much we debate this issue, I doubt that anything will be done; after all, how often do non-game-breaking proposals made by the folk who actually play the game ever get implemented?
     
  37. very good idea. the idea of stable vets is a no-brainer which should have been in the game long long ago. dunno bout the deeds tho. that could have some very bad issues arise considering the amount of cheats we have in UO. i've wondered why we dont have pet rez at the stables or healers for quite some time but eventually realized it was a simple lack of vision and realized at the same time that asking for it as a paying customer without whining and crying and raising so much hell that they finally heard me was the only way to possibly get EA to do ANYTHING about it but then they would just implement the idea in a totally unimaginably horrible way so that 90% of the player base hates it and then sit back and wonder why my company's stocks are dropping like the Dow.
    ooo ...sorry ...was that a run-on sentence?
    :D
    :fight:
     
  38. weins201

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    This way it wont be abused By PvPers.

    One poster even stated he would drop vet from his Tamer / Bard Temp for more points. If you are Tamer U should have VET !!!!

    There is one way I will buy into this.

    Add vet to the bonding calc, say it now takes over 210 points to bond a greater, make it 315 to bond a greater. That way it wont be abused.

    You could leave one slotters (horses, beetle, and have to add Lesser Hiryus to the bond without skills) alone and they should be resable with chiv or resurection.
     
  39. Petrify

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    you only need like 81 vet to res your pet, if your a tamer you should have it... stop whining. Join a guild if your not a tamer.
     
  40. Phaen Grey

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    Wandering Veterinarians?

    I'd be willing to pay for a pet rez from an npc vet at the animal trainers.
     
  41. Borric

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    I think any creature sold by NPC's should be rez'd by NPC's(after bonding), for the sale price.
     
  42. Flutter

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    Anyone remember when if your pet died it was gone forever?
    What would this generation of UOer do without pet bonding?
    I picture chaos! Pure chaos!
     
  43. gjohnson5

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    Yeah , I noticed the gold drops as well
    IMHO this still does not make up for bag of sending change which I still say was stupid. It clearly did not stop gold farmers/scripters from recalling to the bank and depositing the gold.

    Anyway the change requested doesn't seem all that bad. If the shrines auto rez people why not pets as well
     
  44. El Phantasmo

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    Either an NPC Vet or pet rez scrolls are an AWESOME idea!