Ok given that I almost started to play Darkfall, but I didnt. I talked to most of my former guildies (most of them are in darkfall, and some in wow) and the ones in Darkfall seemed to be pretty hyped up. However Darkfall requires a lot of grind to make it work (they say its like classic UO all over again) so I decided not to play it. (even tho I have darkfall account setup I stopped at the e-purchase page). Anyways even tho Ive read about a lot of exploits and unattended macroers in darkfall and the game isnt "refined" in any shape or form compared to WoW, they sure stole quite a few "classic UO vet players". UO dont seem to have all the hype anymore, and the next big thing would be SA... can we get an ETA on it? Or are we just gonna have to wait till DEVs are happy about it with all the retail pricing worked out and all that kind of stuff... What about beta testing stage for SA? will it be release on to TC? What's it gonna be?