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Discussion in 'UHall' started by SunWolf, May 15, 2015.

  1. SunWolf

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    Was skimming a few pages and some people don't use or like facebook.
    https://www.facebook.com/UltimaOnline
    That link you can just look at, you don't have to sign in, don't have to post. It is a public page that lists player events, em events(i think), or news about the game. Just bookmark if you like, it seems to be regulary updated via the posts on it.
     
  2. The Craftsman

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    Some people? A lot of people. Why the hell anyone wants to live their lives through that pile of **** is beyond me. Get a life people. A real one.
     
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    Bit of both camps for me...
    Happy to use FB as a tool to communicate with friends and family. But UO? Will stick to Stratics and ICQ...
    Must be bipolar!
     
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    I have no problems with Facebook itself, like some people do, but I also think it's extremely annoying to use so try to avoid it whenever possible.
     
  5. Lord Nabin

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    A recent research study deterimmed 80% of people in America engage on Facebook.

    That is life right now and they clearly have one

    There are all kinds of ways people like to communicate. The more various was you engage them the better.

    It's ok you don't use Facebook to follow the current events. There are other sources to follow.

    Wait you don't currently play

    Never mind

    *tips a glass of good old Moonglow Red in salute and turns his attention back to the fire minding his own business "
     
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    IMO I have UO and Stratics and ICQ why would I want to have to go to FB too to see whats going on in UO? I know I know Bennu is there I haven't looked yet but darn it I'm not a mutli tasker. I'm still trying After 17 years to figure out UO and ICQ. I learned how to show my ICQ status last week not knowing I showed off line all these years Doh....
     
  7. The Craftsman

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    A damning indictment of America as a society.
     
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  8. Lord Frodo

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    Why is it so hard to understand that the FIRST place I should get info about UO is http://www.uo.com/. The SECOND place should be http://stratics.com/community/forums/uhall.35/ as it was named the offical forums by the UO Dev team. Why the hell should I have to go to FB, I know, because UO is to lazy or whatever to update their own damn web site. When I started playing UO UO.COM was a great site that the Devs at the time kept well maintained and now it is just an after thought. No wounder we have very few new players when the first thing they see is UO.COM. When you Google Ultima Online the very first thing you see is UO.COM. IMHO if I was just starting out in UO and I went to their web site I wouldn't even bother. First impression is that if they don't care enough to keep their own web site updated then they damn sure don't care about their game enough to keep it updated.

    Here is FBs write up "Ultima Online. 26020 likes · 290 talking about this. Welcome to the official Ultima Online Facebook Page! Latest News and Information: www.uo.com." OMG 290 people talking about UO, that must be one huge community, NOT. And it tell you to go to an out dated web site.

    Come on Devs show some damn pride in your own web site. I know, Iknow why should I turn on a computer when I can just FB on my damn phone. Why because you can't play UO on your damn phone.
     
  9. Capt. Lucky

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    The problem is if you wanna stay up on the EM Events they are only posting them on Facebook now and no longer post to Stratics. At least that was the word a few months ago. They say they 80% of people in the US has Facebook. Based on the number of accounts they have. Problem is there's people like my daughter who has like 20 FB accounts to help her feed herself gifts and such with her gaming. So that number is pretty much nonsense.
     
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  10. Uvtha

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    heh, I mean the dude gave
    You know how bookmarks work right? It's not more complicated than that. Of course as someone said, you don't need to use facebook, the EM info is on the shard forums here as well. It's just on facebook because people use it, so if you want to enjoy the ease of visiting just one web page rather than one for each shard who's events you want to pay attention to this will simplify your life.

    I mean, I don't use facebook, but people really overreact about having to visit (not join to clarify) a web page.
     
  11. Uvtha

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    They are posted here on stractics, via EM feeds on the appropriate shard forums. So, no worries.
     
  12. Capt. Lucky

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    Well EM Avalon posted this a little while back for Legends....

    circumstances beyond my control have dictated we move announcements and other news to facebook. Thank you for your patience in this transition.
    uolegends on facebook is where we will now be seen!

    I'll get my info from the horse's mouth :)
     
  13. azmodanb

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    Rather than each em having a separate page whynot an em group.. On Facebook... At least then we could check one page and not each.
     
  14. DJAd

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    Totally agree. Just have one page so it's easy to follow "Ultima Online EM Events" or something similar. Far easier than having 27 pages to follow.
     
  15. Uvtha

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    Im just going by what I saw on the facebook page, and the forum pages. Legends may be different, but the shards posted on facebook now all have them also on the shard forums.

    I sort of remember this being talked about on here, but I don't remember what your em's deal with stratics was.
     
  16. Zosimus

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    Actually 79% of stair accidents happen on the stairs. Don't use FB but I use other forms of social media that I think is superior to FB.


    Then again my generation doesn't about the summer of '83!
     
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    I agree one FB page for all EM's would be fantastic. They could all be added as editors to post their news and events.
     
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    TELL THE PEOPLE RUNNING UO TO FIX THE REAL UO WEB SITE. How frigen hard could that be. BROADSWORD HAS NO PRIDE IN THERE ON WEB SITE NO WONDER WE DON'T HAVE NEW PLAYERS.
     
  20. Ender

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    I mean I'm pretty sure the reason(s) we don't have new players is more bad graphics, monthly fee, no advertising, and account management system, in that order.
     
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  21. Ellie

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    My brother in law was having trouble with his face book so my husband created an account. The first thing that pops up on his is 'people you may know on face book'. He does see whats wrong with his brothers (they use team speak). The next day there is a list of about 20 or so more people 'he may know using facebook'. Im not getting it for that reason. It just doesnt interest me with all the names that pop up and you dont even know one of them.
     
  22. Uvtha

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    You don't need an account to visit the page...

    Even if you wanted to make an account, you don't have to tell it who you actually are, or add friends.
     
  23. Smoot

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    try making a totally fake account with 100 percent fake info. the results are very disturbing. still suggests your actual family and friends in people you may know. data collection is a very scary thing nowadays.
     
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  24. Assia Penryn

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    Already have the page liked, but thank you @SunWolf !
     
  25. Uvtha

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    I have a fake fb account actually (I have a seperate email/facebook for signing up for stuff so any spam/pestering is away from my real stuff), and the only friend suggestions it has are friends of my actual account, which is the only friend my fake account has. Before I friended myself it didn't suggest anyone I know as a friend. I do all of my fake accounts on Firefox and my real stuff on Chrome to keep the data separate.

    Of course, you don't have to be a facebook member to visit facebook pages, so no worries. :p

    But really, I don't know why this sort of thing bothers anyone. You don't have to interact with it, you don't have to look at ads (let alone click them) you don't have to invite friends, or accept invites. Honestly, when it comes to having your data mined and used to try and improve your experience/sell to you better it's pretty unavoidable unless you take some fairly extreme steps, which would include never using anything but cash to make purchases IRL. Everyone tracks you. It's just how the info age works, and its not even such a bad thing.

    I'm sure someone will "set me straight" with a long winded and emotional spiel about how facebook is going to come to my house and punch me in the nuts, and rob me of my way of life, nay my very soul, but whatever. :p

    (to clarify, I have a fb account, but I don't use it, I just keep it up so people I'm not in close contact with can get a hold of me if they need/want to. I used to use it regularly, but I decided it was, like most online experiences, a shallow and sort of depressing exercise in addiction. Much like these forums, which I have several times quit for the same reasons. Despite my dislike for the site, I think people tend to get a bit histrionic when it comes to facebook, usually for no real reason.
     
  26. Val'lyn De'ana

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    The only issue I see with UO having a presence on Facebook, is that they lose control of the info in the database. To be honest, if they had a social media manager, Facebook would be part of their social media strategy, but it would be used to push people on Facebook to UO.com.

    -Val'lyn
     
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  27. Duncan McDermott

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    I don't used it and don't see a day that I will. Wife gave up trying to get me to join. I rarely even turn ICQ on anymore.
     
  28. Jirel of Joiry

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    I will not use Facebook for UO. PERIOD

    My facebook is strictly for family and friends that live far from me. I--well my sister actually---has already had an incident where a creepy person made a fake facebook account, tried to contact her, and believing she was me called her Jirel. The person was an idiot. My sister is even more guarded than I am about her facebook. They used stuff from her friends' profile. LMAO next time it shouldn't put it works for a company that has ONE male employee and where her friend from high school works. The idiot also said it was male in its profile. It was blocked and reported to facebook. Our UO lives and facebook lives will remain separate.
     
  29. MalagAste

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    I wouldn't use Facebook at all for anything... evil... and should never be used. I don't care what you think it does for you... what it does against you is FAR worse than any benefit it might give. IMO Facebook is part of a Government conspiracy to track you and know your every move know who all your friends are and know your family... it's disturbing.
     
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  30. Promathia

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    lol



    ALL YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP TO IT.
     
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    I don't use Facebook in any way...
     
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  32. Uvtha

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    Do you use google? If so I have some bad news for you...
     
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  33. Uvtha

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    You don't have to be logged in to fb to visit the page...
     
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    It IS the DEVIL! Along with FOOSBALL. Just ask Bobby Bouchet's mother!!!! ROFLMFAO
     
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  36. Jirel of Joiry

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    I know. Its just the idea, ya know. I mean why not just use the UO website? What's the point of the website?

    I get social media and the young people are using it. I learned this in Principles of Management. I also learned you need to evaluate your resources, use what you have FIRST, then implement new as it is feasible. Without a social media manager the facebook will become stale like the website.

    The second reason I take issue is that if one chose to interact with the UO facebook it would, for many, force them to reveal personal info that has always been taboo in UO. Why? most people have their real name, family and so forth on their facebooks.

    I just think this is a poor management decision, but then when has there been many good management decisions where UO is concerned?
     
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  37. Lord Frodo

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    Thank You Jirel. Someone that gets it. WHY DON"T THEY USE UO.COM. I do not mind them using FB but it is at the cost of UO.COM and that is unsat.
     
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  38. Lady CaT

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    Gee. Wouldn't it be great if the EMs maybe had a npc that could announce upcoming events to players in every town and maybe all you had to do was walk up to one and say 'news' to get the latest event info! ....... oh wait!
     
  39. Jirel of Joiry

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    Your sarcasm is duly noted. However wouldn't you like the dev team to make SOUND management decisions? Why not use the resources we already have I.E. website, town criers , sherry the mouse statues. Instead of WASTING RESOURCES on something we don't need at the moment. Would you rather they spent the money on oh I don't know . . . NEW CONTENT!?!?

    I don't know why I'm wasting my breath, this is Stratics where bitchin about everything UO is an Olympic Event and most of the forum folk are multiple gold medalists. :facepalm: :wall::twak: :gee:
     
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  40. Kirthag

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    I personally went to each EM site and made sure they feed direct to the shards. I check them frequently to make sure they are still feeding and valid.
    When an EM posts something to their site, as a post, it is fed into that EM's respective shard.

    There are also links direct to the active EM sites over on uo2.stratics.com (left column, a wee bit down).

    Facebook is great for social marketing and getting updates to go viral - if it is used right.

    Insofar as EMs not posting to stratics, that's not entirely true. Some EMs have opted not to use Stratics, and that is their prerogative and choice. When I had asked Mesanna, she said there has been no directive to not use Stratics. There are EMs that do post to Stratics; I believe their priority is to to post to their own site first, then their Facebook, then _maybe_ Stratics. *shrug*
     
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    Cool! :) Legends' EM lead us to believe she had no choice in using facebook.
    Please don't take my word for it, see for your self here:
    http://stratics.com/community/threads/legends-will-no-longer-be-using-stratics.335158/

    Thank you for that Kirthag I appreciate it. :grouphug::hug::danceb::banana:
     
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  42. Promathia

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    And tell me, what shard isn't using the town criers?
     
  43. Uvtha

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    I'm with you there. I don't think stratics should be the "offical forums" either, no offense to stratics. But, thats just how its been for like a decade.
     
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    Here is the sad part people Broadsword http://www.broadsword.com/ you know the company that is in charge of Ultima Online (UO) http://www.uo.com/ and Dark Ages of Camelot (DAoC) http://darkageofcamelot.com/. Please visit all the sites and make up your own mind.

    UOs last update was Apr 22 and it is in Japanese and before that it was Apr 2. Guess UO Devs aren't doing anything.LOL

    DAoC last update was May 14 Damn 4 days ago. Who would think that DAoCs Devs were that smart. Wait don't they work in the same damn place? Aren't they one big happy team? OMG DAoC even managed to start a newsletter. Maybe UO should go over and ask DAoC for help. OMG DAoC even has a weekly pod cast called Knight Podcast where they actually answer peoples questions. Maybe we should start posting on their forums and asking them to go over and help UO.

    Let me QUOTE Broadsword and this is on their main page and to me it is SO DAMN FUNNY and I quote
    We are your children and I wish there was a place to report you for child abuse, it's called neglect.
     
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    I use the UO Facebook page. I go there because I know its going to be consistently updated unlike the UO.com home page. I generally don't use Stratics because in a sense its too big. I can find what I need when I want it. But I've just never taken the time or put in the effort to tailor alerts that might pertain to me. And even if I did its still hard for new stuff to find me. I clicked one "like" button and now I get all the notifications about upcoming events on just about every server.

    With that being said UO.com needs to get its house in order.
     
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    I understand UO's presence on FB. If 80% of the population has a FB account, then it makes sense to be somewhere that gives the extra exposure.

    I personally hate FB. I value my privacy. The only reason I have an account is to keep an eye out on my kids activities. But they are just like the Captain's daughter...they create new accounts unbenownst to me.
     
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    So for example I went this morning to find out what up coming events are occurring on Atlantic this week. :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    And just to be sure I wasn't crazy. I went to Chesapeake to see what upcoming events the town crier is letting us know about.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Siege, but our EM has gone missing, which is pretty common for Siege. And I butchered this response by accidentally removing who I was replying to....