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Faction points need a total wipe.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Ender, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. Ender

    Ender Crazed Zealot
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  2. Kellgory

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    People have been asking that since the invasion arc started giving triple points and people exploited it. That was over two years ago or something like that. It does seem like the finally removed the double point gain maybe a month or two ago. Not sure tho since I did't see any notes about it.
     
  3. Picus at the office

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    The most amazing thing about those silly points is my guild is the fifth highest rank on GL and its 4 of us who hardly play that shard and have never farmed but just killed the odd person here and there. At one time we were allied with some other guild who found it funny to have other accounts in other factions only for the farming. We fired them.

    The worst part of this stuff is that you can't build a guy to join simply because the crush of points stops on from ranking.
     
  4. Lynk

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    They stop showing on the website once you reach a certain amount of points.

    Great Lakes point problems can be blamed on Garrett of the old BC guild.

    He kept getting stomped by faction players. He blamed his losses on them for using cheat programs and having better gear.

    To combat the gear portion, he see-sawed points in all four factions to try to make the rank requirement too high for normal players. He was too dim to realize that everyone else would eventually do the same thing.
     
  5. Cadderly

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    Since you don't involve yourself with point farming, would you mind removeing the point farmers that are affiliated with com that farm in minax on your home shard. I was under the impression you were dirrectly involved with them. Time to drop them out of factions.

    I doubt the devs are going to be looking into factions again anytime soon.

    Who are you on gl?
     
  6. Tinsil

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    That is something that he would do Lynk.

    That said, they actually have a way of resetting after 2b, and I don't believe they show up past that point either. 2b isn't THAT much.
     
  7. Picus of Napa

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    I never thought the whole minax deal on Napa was a good idea but I suspect the real issue you have is letting every tom, **** and sally in just to make sure you win a fight at the gate. Do some more midnight 20 person harrowers but don't let us know or we might take it again with a huge 3 man raid or should I not bring up that loss?
     
  8. Merion

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    those huge amounts of points are bad, but on the other hand, as has been said: just kill one of them and you have a gazillion points yourself.

    I just want to mention, that there are also shard where the system did not get exploited. A total wipe would be really hard on those "honest shards".
     
  9. temu

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    And while they're busy wiping points, they should turn on faction war in all facets. It would make life more interesting for some of us, and we could be a pain in the butt to people who point up just for faction gear.
     
  10. Lady Storm

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    I said this when the bloody system came to testing... Factions is not going to work.. players wont let it, they will find every nook and crany of any exploitable way to win when factions was to make war fair....... Chaos and Order should be restored... allowed to be faught throughout the shards facits.... their own armor.. no special items from the game for it, just the war as it should be.
    Delete the factions junk, points and anything in its arsonal and get the war back to the players the way it was meant to be faught.
     
  11. yars

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    the way i see it, you want the toys?earn and keep them the right way, make it live on all facets, nowhere to run and hide,. chaos/order indeed. im not sure how it works now, but wouldnt it make more sense to not be able to kill someone for pts for a at least a day or 2?
     
  12. Picus of Napa

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    I'd happily see fighting on all fronts. On top of this I would love to see forged pardons go bye bye, IMO this has been the single worst addition to PvP since tram was added.
     
  13. Barok

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    The higher your faction points, the faster they should decay. Make it very difficult to keep those billions of points, even out the playing field.
     
  14. Cloak&Dagger

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    Not really an argument on my part, but factions as they where were not broken in such a way. Doing as you suggest would put things how they were before, stale. People did not belong to factions because there was no perk to it. I have no suggest for how to fix participation, but just removing the system and putting one in to replace it which would act more or less the same as the previous except for having only 2 sides would more or less end up the same, empty. (and an argument about how it use to work is not relevant since Factions use to be highly popular too.)

    Right now the person dying has to be killed by 6 other people before you can gain off them again. It sounded like an ideal system but 7 people to an account means if you just cycle through all your own characters you could gain endlessly (or is it 7 other people, meaning you would require 1 other person assist you in farming?)

    This I can agree with, higher rate of decay with more points, I guess it is currently like that but it needs to be way more drastic. Such to say after 1000 points you lose more than 1 point a day, and so on. I don't have a scale in mind right now but I still agree with the idea.
     
  15. Violence

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    ...Or just skip Points? Allow all items, then allow Trammel Faction Wars. 2 in 1.. Sort of. Besides it's ridiculous getting a target to 1% Health just to lose the kill and the Points to some RaNdOm player jumping in. Forged Pardons - Right, I'd be bleeding $$$ dry if I were aiming to Blue through them. Do we even need Red/Blue? Felucca = War, Trammel = No War. It's there basically.

    Ah.. I need coffee I think. :popcorn: But we definitely DO NOT need a Point Wipe nor Point Decay IMHO. Not the way things are currently..
     
  16. Black Majick

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    I dont even take counts really anymore...everyone I fight is generally orange on Sonoma. On Pacific it is another story but I only play their once in a blue moon.

    I do like the idea of allowing all items and allowing it into Tram facets. If you join factions...you know what you are getting into. If you joined just for the items then sucks to be you. Anything they can do to spice up PvP would be awesome. I personally think it is a pain in the ass trying to keep up points on my 6 faction PvP chars just to keep rank (not all need LvL 10) and my sampire. Granted I dont have to have many....getting the kill shot can be a pain sometimes.