What do you folks want to see? I know very well not all Siege folk are going to be in factions. I also know very well factions effects no other shard (I can not/will not speak for Mugen). i am seriously upsetting some folks I think. I am being good and not using personal attacks and trying really hard not to troll... really hard. Really really hard.... *bites tongue* I am doing some time line research on Siege, factions, population etc. I have a lot of work to do. My premise is that factions artifacts (2008) destroyed Siege. It was a bugged system. It took over 3 years to get attention. It took over a year for non faction folks to even compete here... maybe longer as imbuing took awhile to learn. (SA 2009) During that time PKers ran rampant and PvP had a moment. Faction Pub 56... (yeah 2008) Created the hide/stealth mode. Pub 56 created a super character that no other could compete with. If you were not in factions... you were dead and usually dry looted back then. So the non faction folk went away or adapted. Those that adapted carried carried little or went underground. Why not? We had soulstones too! (note if we could go way back... I hated the idea of soulstones on Siege too. That was a different time...) Factions is everywhere here. There is no hiding. It is everything many of those "other shard" faction folks ask for. Yet they really do not want... It takes a special player to leave trammel... forever.