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Discussion in 'UO Rares Collector' started by Tomas_Bryce, May 12, 2008.

  1. Tomas_Bryce

    Tomas_Bryce Rares Collector Extraordinaire | Rares Fest Host
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    Had to do it!!!!!!!!

    So, what about them vine cords :p - I was in England the past weekend so missed out on the interesting "discussion" you guys were having about it on the normal boards. I think I saw some posts about "how nothing is going to be done" :)
     
  2. Lady Aalia

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    I missed all the action since it started while i was in bed ...but the next morning my ICQ was light like a Christmas tree :p
     
  3. DVI

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    wooohooo!!
     
  4. Kaj

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    Great move on the Vine Cords. I wonder what they will do in the future, since Vine Cord were the only (?) 100% duped item. Will they delete 75% duped items next? 50%? Or just make PvP items obsolete?

    I am just glad they do listen to the community, vine cord were just a big middle finger from the dupers to the players and EA.
     
  5. Tomas_Bryce

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    I think someone needs to post a screen shot of the burning houses.
     
  6. DVI

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    I feel that at this point any item such as a shroud of Tal'keesh for example that has been duped beyond counting should be deleted and/or converted to a similar item of no value (monks robe).

    Yes, those people who actually recieved the one they own know theirs isn't duped, but can you prove it? No! Besides as dupers continue to pour more into the economy yours is slowly losing value, and pretty soon won't be worth buying.

    If you'd care to refute my last statement go for it, but its fact not hypothese, tal'keesh shrouds specifically have dropped tremendously in value over the past year to year and a half. I used to see them sell reguarly for 300-500m depending on whether they were blessed or not, now you see them for around 200-250m reguarly.
     
  7. DVI

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    As posted by Flutter on the Lost Lands Forum - From Great Lakes

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  8. Flutter

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    There's more on Drachenfels too ;)
    I'm betting some people had a bad weekend >;)
     
  9. Tomas_Bryce

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    No, there are couple of other items that are unique. Gladiators collar, Hit point shrouds, Fang of Ractus come to my mind.
     
  10. Kaj

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    But are the originals of those items also gone?
     
  11. Tomas_Bryce

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    The original vine cords were not gone.. well as far as anyone could tell. The argument placed was that they could not have been duped without the consent of whoever owned them last before they got duped. The same argument can be made for any of these items.
     
  12. Halister Marner

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    There's a few more houses on various shards, the trick is they are usually smaller houses (7x7 and the like) in the middle of nowhere. You'll notice that many of the people and brokers selling all the event items (not only vine cords) have delisted their entire stock as well, so it seems like they banned anyone who had a large stock of those event items and burned their houses to the ground.

    Drachenfels and GL were the shards I kept hearing through the grapevine when I was digging for information, the houses there should be the most visible, and I'm fairly sure the Drachenfels location (s) were posted on The Lost Lands over the weekend.
     
  13. Tomas_Bryce

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    Nice to see you posting again Halister :)
     
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    They've said they are going to be cracking down on the "Notorious" Duped items, Items that are obvious and widely known about.

    Fang of Ractus, Mummy Wrap, IBD, Wisp Frag, Gaunts of Anger etc etc are not Notorious Nor could anyone ever beable to tell how badly they were truely duped. ( IBD is Nortorious)

    Vine Cords were delt with because there was only 1 true pair and it was fairly easy to see they were duped. I do not see anything happening to the items i mentioned, but Shrouds, Robes, Lt Sash etc......im willing to bet those will be gone soon enough....

    They did not delete the Original pair of Vine Cords, Nor will they be deleting any Original Event items, From what they've said, but im fairly sure the Original VC's were lost long long ago.....
     
  15. It's great to have a functional forums again!

    and the surprise of the vine cord fix was great. Awsome move for the devs weee!

    I specifically knew people who argued theirs would never be removed and no action would be taken and *BAM* told yuh so! harhar

    Great to see everyone again:D
     
  16. oompaloompa

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    I think it is good that they finally did such a thing with the vine cords and i do some what feel bad for the people who actually spent the irl cash to purchase. I remember at one time that neon hair dye NPC was put into the economy to be a gold dump. I dont see why it would be a problem to do such a thing with other things in the game expecially those rare shrouds that are all over the place. Unless they do this with the moonglow even they have had with those shrouds that were looted. Perhaps they are preparing to allow them to be crafted. What do you guys think?
     
  17. Yes I was happy as well. I noticed the nay sayers aren't here posting that they were wrong when they said " nothing will happen to vine cords, they will never be deleted". LOL
     
  18. Death Omen

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    Why would anyone who had sold any of these want to imply otherwise? I highly doubt your ever guna see anyone Promoting the deletion of an item in one thread and selling the item in the next thread lol.
     
  19. Halister Marner

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    Here is one of the houses that were found on Drachenfels:

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    I hope the deletion of these Vine Cords is not a slippery slope. Expecting players to know that an item that has been around for 4 years or longer has been duped is unreasonable. Rare collecting is a difficult profession as it is without worrying what is going to be deleted next.

    Whatever happened to handling the rest of the changling duped items? They only took care of the most obvious one, the robes. But there is a lot of other stuff out there like glacial daggers and spellbooks.
     
  21. stumpy

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    I think the big question now is who owns the original pair??
     
  22. Halister Marner

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    Ice Island Felucca on the Pacific Shard...

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  23. Tomas_Bryce

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    From what I understood,
    1) there are no more vine cords left in the game (unless someone knows how to store items without being part of the sweep).
    2) no attempt was made to try and discriminate the original vine cords (even if they could) because the argument made was that they could not have been duped without the consent of the last owner of original vine cords before they were duped.
     
  24. Basara

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    Hasn't it been stated somewhere in the past that the last owner of the original pair had their account closed by EA several years ago, WITH the originals ON the account when it was sealed?

    So, that the duping going on the last 4-5 years has been dupes of the dupes, or hiden stockpiles of existing dupes?
     
  25. Tomas_Bryce

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    Eh, I can't imagine that being anything else but speculation.
     
  26. Kaj

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    This is what Manticore said on uoforums.com:

     
  27. DVI

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    Tomas, I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but the original pair of vine cords was lost many years ago.

    Initially there was one pair which was then duped at least several times, after that it was lost by some means, presumably by being held on a banned account.

    This means that any vine cords that have existed since then have been either dupes or the original pair, or dupes or dupes, the latter of the two being far more likely.
     
  28. Tomas_Bryce

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    No, the question is where are you getting your information from?

    How can anyone tell? Heck, the guy who duped them could have confused between two and sold the original and kept the duped one. No way to know! Not that it matters one bit.
     
  29. Halister Marner

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    Here's Atlantic's, near the Trinsic moongate in Felucca.


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