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Fishing Delivery Orders' weights : wrong ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by popps, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. popps

    popps Always Present
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    Crabs/Lobsters orders are weighted 0.5

    Deep Sea are weighted 1.0

    Well, I do not know others but personally, I find Crabs/Lobsters orders way, but way more time consuming and expensive (I loose traps) than deep sea fishing where it takes me less to fill an order and I never loose my pole.

    I think the weights are wrongly assigned when one considers the differences in the 2 styles of fishing.

    Also, I am not sure whether it may be the curse of the RNG, but I seem to have more difficulties, on average, to be able to fish up whatever the order asks me rather than other things which I have no order asking for.

    My nightmare is orders asking for snow crabs.
    When I traps fish I hardly ever pull up snow crabs. I pull anything else but snow crabs.....

    And if it wasn't enough, my orders keep persistently asking for snow crabs !!!
     
  2. Uvtha

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    The quest system is horrible. Lobster fishing is horrible. Wait till they adjust it because if you dont like it now, imagine how much youll like it after like 500+ runs which is probably what its going to take for you to get enough 105 scrolls to bind together and to make a 110, cause you won't be getting one any other way.
     
  3. Spellbound

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    Agreed, refinements still need to be made... 103+ fishing skill, lobster traps in deep water are rated TOO EASY by the tutorial statue, and deep water fishing with a pole is at EASY per skill tutorial. Oh, took over 160 quests for my fisher to get a 105... 105 x 8 = 1280 monger quests??? UGH!
     
  4. Bobar

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    Funny that! for me its rock crabs - I get the others but rocks are like gold dust for me - and just to rub it in my latest order is for 10 King crabs and 20 rock crabs, thats going to take forever.

    I sure hope they get lobster fishing sorted out - I agree with the op fishing with a rod is so much simpler.
     
  5. ikaikaman

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    I am sure devs not testing.to begin with, rewards of this quest are worthless.rare fish getable without bait and under 100skills.
    We spent 15dollars getting aquarium fish,naff arties.....sigh
     
  6. Gelf

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    from what i can tell a fish/crab always becomes very rare to get after you get an order, and its almost always the one you have the least of. it will also be on almost every order. after delivery i've been going fishing/crabbing and not taking next quest until i have at least 20 of everything, this seems to take care of the problem.
     
  7. Metalstorm

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    Gelf, I think you might be onto something :)

    I too find that once an order is placed for a particular crustation or fish even, My chances of catching it are dramatically reduced.
     
  8. Jhym

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    ...

    So nobody is talking to anyone else and asking for trades of fish, crab and lobsters?

    :loser:
     
  9. popps

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    I wonder.......... just random bad luck or are there any chances that it was actually coded to make it so that if a player gets a quest for any given item then fishing up that particular item will become harder and less likely ?

    It would be interesting to know..........
     
  10. Uvtha

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    Having done a literal boat load of these quests (seriously, my tukuno ships hold was at max weight with fish) I think that its random. Some times it took me like 2 hours to catch those 20 cobia, then others it too me half an hour to get them. Once you have your hold full of fish it gets much easier.

    That said, its still super boring and tedious to do these quests especially knowing the reward in store is basically nothing.
     
  11. gunneroforgin

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    we at XMG are using a castle as a fish warehouse several of us have been contributing the part of the catch we don't need to the warehouse for other guilded persons to use.
     
  12. jabeth

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    40 to 50 and it was not enough - ended up needing 75 of one kind for 5 different orders in a row :grrr:
     
  13. Lord Frodo

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    I got to agree with you on this one Popps. The weights are way off. Every fish (shore, deap water) has come up in a quest for me. Right now I am down to about 200 of every fish. Fished for 3 days with no quests and got a good mix of everything. Did crab traps for 2 days and max I have is about 150 of the named crabs/lobsters which are used in the quests. What I want to know is what the hell do I do with over 600+ crabs and over 600+ lobsters. They have never been in any quest I have gotten and you can do nothing with them that I know of.

    Reg crab/lobster should be 0.5 and be in the quest system and any named crab/lobster should be 2.0 and have a high chance for the power scrolls.
     
  14. Pinco

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    every plain lobster and crab should be something else, but your skill is not high enough for name that so they became plain. When your skill will be high enough the lobster fishing will be more easy.. but I suppose the "high enough" is 120 :(
     
  15. popps

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    How do you know that ? Was it mentioned by a developer somewhere ?
     
  16. Pinco

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    nope, come from my test:

    When you start fishing from 0 you find 2-3 named fish and old plain fishes. The more you go near 100 and less are the plain fish, until you don't see them anymore.
    For lobster is the same, at low skills you get only plain and with higher skill you get more named ones. I still don't know at what skill you don't get plains anymore...
     
  17. R Traveler

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    set 120 fishing on TC and try to find plain lobster or crab :eyes:
     
  18. Pinco

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    ok, 120 still not enough but seems I have better results on the "non plain" ones.

    Here is a raw statistic:
    0 fishing: 20 lobsters (15 plain 5 non plain)
    120 fishing: 30 lobsters (15 plain 15 non plain)
     
  19. Lord Frodo

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    I have been GM Fishing for a long time and now I am 105 fishing and I am still pulling only %20 named crab/lobster. I used the skill ball and every trap I pulled said "easy" no matter what was in the trap. I would understand if it said I didn't catch anything, but to give me 1200 crab/lobsters at GM or better is wrong. They have no use what so ever and nobody has found a 110 PS yet so how are we to get to 120 fishing.
     
  20. Pinco

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    if you work fast and hard, perhaps one day you'll have enough 105 to make a 120 :D
     
  21. Silverbird

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    First ppl already have build 110's. (There were 3 or 4 reporting here on stratics. But we havent heard more from them. Wonder if one of them already had more luck on higher ps than 105.)
     
  22. Pinco

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    I want to belive which order of 1200 stones of dungeon fishes can give the 120... but we can only hope that ...