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fix the blue cystals

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lady Tiger, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. Lady Tiger

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    (I can't find the spiels and rants forum so if you want to move this go ahead)
    The healing NPCs with the blue crystals need to be changed. It's just not worth it to have to do that quest a million times and then have one person come in and heal the npc up while you're doing it...FIX IT!!!!

    i'm done
     
  2. Cerwin Vega

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    Agree... I dont like a chance at getting a items or a chance at getting screwed. I guess I like to play the safe side, maybe thats why I dont play the lotto.
     
  3. JC the Builder

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    One hundred is no where near 1 million. You should have about 40 blue crystals at that point. But I would get 50 just to be safe.
     
  4. AzSel

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    Yes its quite annoying trying to cure an npc with your hard earned crystals and then someone recalls in and manages to "steal" your reward by using just a few crystals and curing the npc.
     
  5. JC the Builder

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    There is always Felucca. Crystals can be insured.

    You would have to be extremely unlucky for someone to show up in the minute it takes to finish applying your crystals.

    There is also the Solen Hive. Can't recall into there.
     
  6. Which does nothing to guarantee that someone won't recall in when you're down to your last 4 or 5, drop 1 or 2 themselves, and they get the robe.

    They should have made it so that each person has their own counter keeping track of the number of crystals they've dropped so each person has an equal chance using the same number of crystals to get their reward. Collections suck, plain and simple.
     
  7. Lady Tiger

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    or someone's is hidden in the room just waiting for that person with 50 crystals to heal the guy and before you're done he pops out heals it and runs and hides
     
  8. JC the Builder

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    Other people don't get to see how many crystals you have applied. So theoretically you could recall in, stand there for 2 minutes and then the stealther will waste his thinking you already applied all yours.
     
  9. Potgut

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    hence why this robe has the "luck" properties added on to it, I think the blue crystals were meant to be a gamble, but many people just shooting for a good 50+ crystals just to make sure
     
  10. RedDaTeef

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    but it's more funny this way...reminds me of old UO some how.
     
  11. Wolfways

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    If you can use 50 blue's then you're 50 times more lucky than my wife and me.
    On Europa we recall to all the npc's about a dozen times a day and haven't been able to use a single one!
    I just can't be bothered with this crap anymore :(
     
  12. Shantia

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    i'm confused i cant even find the gypsies we're supposed to heal!! I suxxor at UO! :(
     
  13. 1. Carl Orc Cave south of Yew. He's where the Orc Brute's spawn in the cave.

    2. Laura and Sam are in the Evil Mages tower on the second floor on the thrid level of shame. Its the tower with the posion elementals by it.

    3. Isham is in the Ice fiend area in the Ice dungeon.

    4. Jared in the swamp North of Brit.

    5. Leto I hear is somewhere in one of the ant hives.
     
  14. Ender

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    I haven't seen a single one in monster form yet. :/
     
  15. soze

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    Agree....it should keep track of each person's contribution
     
  16. Shantia

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    Thanks Marcus!

    I've only got 2 blue crystals so i've got a while to go now that i know you need an average of 50..yikes. Isnt the upcoming patch changing the amount they need tho? or something..i remember speed reading something about the gypsies.
     
  17. Cerwin Vega

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    I think its just making them go into monster form more often.
     
  18. Serine

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    100% agree :( . spent about 20 hours now at gypsys and havent seen one in monster form.. This is a bad joke tbh ... Also playing on Europa
     
  19. christy1221

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    I agree too :thumbup1:
     
  20. maroite

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    Do the quest and save your blue crystals.

    It takes 50 to heal one npc.

    Save up 50, find an npc, and use them on it.

    You don't have to use a crystal as soon as you get it.

    What gypsies are you sitting at? ...

    The quest npc's you heal are in dungeons, not at gypsie camps...
     
  21. Harlequin

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    Wife says this also reminds her of the days of yore when we had to use public looms at the tailors :D

    I do think that it'll be good to track each person's contribution.

    Plus a further bonus if you "rescued" all 5 transformed, maybe a title or something like the slime hunter event (then again, maybe there is, I'd not saved any coz I'd not seen them in monster form as yet).
     
  22. the 4th man

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    Signed-.......they have individual counter for the red ones.......and collecting 50?? Some of us can't play 24/7..........
     
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    Yes, a Title for rescuing all 5 sounds great! Too bad the devs didn't think of it.
     
  24. Serine

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    The NPC´s that needs cure looks like gyspy´s when in human form .. And ya i know where all are .
     
  25. Just wanted to point out that this is BS. A stealther can sit there and watch a health bar just as easily as anyone else. If there's wasn't a very good business going on for these stealthers in stealing robes, there wouldn't be 10+ of them hiding around the NPC's.
     
  26. Alezi

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    It takes around 2 hours to acquire 50 blue crystals. If you can't play 2 hours during the 2 weeks the event is still gonna be running, maybe you shouldn't be playing at all?
     
  27. Yen Sid

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    Indeed. I have a few hours at night that I play and I have 3* 140 luck robes and 4* of the Harbinger robes and I have about 20 more blue crystals so I will proabably get enough tonight for another robe. Either get Troll form because its fast or get Balron form because its faster lol.
     
  28. wrekognize

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    I like it the way it is. There is strategy involved.
     
  29. Maybe if you're on a low population shard, but not on a busy, or even-semi busy, one. It took me quite a bit more than 2 hours to get 50.
     
  30. Harb

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    First, agreed, this "should" be on an individual "counter." It is a grind, to be sure, and as such challenges a lot of players, those playing casually, from the onset. But frankly, I prefer the grind to character/ account restrictions as we've seen in the past, so I'd pass along an attaboy to dev on this one (in this case I'm sensing an "attagirl"). I've also seen posts complaining about the reward being yet another robe, but again I see it as another attaboy for dev, it's applicable to all characters and all races, and considering all the restrictions that do exist, my vote is well done. One of my biggest complaints over recent years has been a disconnect in how dev "sees" the game comparative to those of us who play it. There's no disconnect here so again, attaboy. Major attaboy.

    Dev can't code behavior. But they can observe it, and for the handfull of them who are/ were players first, the "intrusion technique" does occur and should be rectified. It would also be nice to know the "max" number of crystals required, we've seen posts saying folks have gone as high as 73 sans robe. My read from NPC dialogue was that 60 was the max, and each time I've turn a turn in, that was the amount I had available. Had I dropped 60 with no robe, frankly, I would have been furious. Imersion is one thing, infuriating players another.

    JC mentioned doing turn-in in Fel, but so many folks simply are not going to accept that as a viable alternative, they shouldn't have to, and for that matter you're merely inviting a diffrent form of player intrusion. A different technique, the one I'm using, is to turn in with Leto in the Solem Hives. It only works with multiple accounts and preferably multiple computers, and requires a hiding character who tracks, so it may not work for everybody. I watch and track before going to do my turn ins. Still there's no guarentee no intrusion will occur, but it's the best I can come up to mitigate risks. Now that it's posted on a public forum, there's likely more risk than before. I'll update the post if suddenly Mr. Jackass shows and waits. Check first.

    Hopefully, dev will get a fix coded for this quickly. The event, though a grind, has been well done. Let us know the max number required, or if there isn't one, just say so please so we're prepared. Walk the dungeons and clean up the errant sparklies. Set individual counters. Please!

    Update: Yup, a post here and our first two asses are now camping/ intruding on others at Leto. I'd post the names but that would probably violate the TOS and nobody on Chessie would be surprised anyway! Just be forewarned, check before beginning, some people just don't ply nice!
     
  31. Dai FHA

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    I have checked all times of the day, to try to find one of these little buggers in monster form but still no luck. But I am getting a good stock of blue ones for that freak chance I do catch one that can be healed ;-) Keeping fingers crossed. Happy Friday all
     
  32. i disappointment is that the quest doesn't end with jasper, i mean, there's no closure?

    the methods for getting a robe is fine. think of it as risk vs reward. you risk turning in the crystals. otherwise, you can sell off your blue crystals for a pretty mint, and then just buy the robe. 160 blue crystals practically buys a robe anyways if you don't wanna risk it, hell, some even trade a robe for 80-100 crystals, since they can turn it into 2 or more. prices drop daily too, the first ones actually sold for 30-40 million, now they won't sell for more than 20 million, and seen a couple sell in luna for around 15 million.
     
  33. onthefifty

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    agreed. on chessy at nite the dungeons are crawling. i've been going fel side which has almost no population but u have to walk in and out which takes time. best case i'm getting 4 crystals per drop.

    did get my 50 blues last nite and went to orc cave tram side. dropped 44 on him and got the robe.
     
  34. Astrel

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    I doubt that there is much luck involved, 100 crystals and no robe, chars just hide and know when to start applying them, so if you play normally you have to be lucky enough to be the only one there, otherwise fat chance. Basically, a great waste of time for a conclusion that is easily exploited.
     
  35. I took a chance this morning at server up, turned in 47, and got my robe. That done, I'm officially done with this BS quest. This is the first time I've ever gotten sick of a UO event. That says a hell of a lot about the quest.
     
  36. Yen Sid

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    For the people turning in more than 50 w/o getting anything you must be doing it wrong or something. Its more than them being in monster form, their health bar has to be full not empty for the blue crystals to actually do anything. I have done it 3 times and it took me 49, 47, and 45 blue crystals.
     
  37. Harb

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    This part is definitely incorrect sir. I'm at 5 robes now, and have done 2 at full health bars and 3 showing no health. The two with full bars took 45ish each, the others less, though I'd be wary of drawing anything conclusive from such a small sampling, other than knowledge that health bars need not be full :)
     
  38. slaveone

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    Look people if every item was just handed to you what would be the value or the fun in it? I found it very exciting turning in my blue crystals hoping that no one else was there or would show up while i was doing it. I knew it was a risk and i took the chance. I turned in for my first robe at the tram solen hive no one was there turned in 39 of them and got my first robe. Then i looked for other unchanged gypsies found both the shame ones unchanged in fel. Stealthed in with my ninja archer with the 53 blues i had left. Turned in 47 on that Sam Gypsy and got my second robe in fel. The other Gypsy in fel Shame was still infected when i left. It's not even close to impossible to do this it just takes a little thought and pre-planning. Like JC said it takes at max 2 minutes to turn in the required crystals. If your sketch about that small 2 minute window use a char with detect hidden.

    If your unwilling to put some effort into it and take a chance like the rest of us then go kill a Harbringer and get the one with no luck your choice. Don't come here crying cause you can't handle turning in 50 blue crystals if you can't handle it you don't get a 140 luck Conjurer's Garb. That simple. If you people spent as much time farming blue crystals and creating a plan to get your robe as you did complaining on these boards you'd probably all have what you wanted by now. Geez.....
     
  39. Demonous

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    i think this system makes it more fun and exciting, why should it be so easy to get a 140 luck robe?
     
  40. This is pure BS. No one should have to have several days or more worth of running that boring ass quest over and over again go to nothing because some jackass camps the NPC's and takes the reward for your effort. This is a one time only thing. The quest will be gone very soon and they won't be available anymore. No one that puts in the effort to get the crystals should walk away empty handed. There was one NPC yesterday that had 13 hidden players surrounding it. That's just ridiculous. All I've got to say is the Devs failed big time on this one.
     
  41. Gheed

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    I liked it too. One of more fun quests I've done. Not knowing if you'll get the reward or not adds a bit of excitement to it. I even stoned over tracking on my turn in char to make sure I was alone. I had 50 crystals and was running out turning them in. I was nervous I didn't have enough. All that much more joy when the robe popped into my pack on the 43rd.
     
  42. slaveone

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    Sorry bro but the only BS is what your spouting. Following your thinking everyone who buys a lotto ticket should win the lotto. They spent their time earned money on some tickets and darn it they deserve a prize! Thats just foolishness. Why not just let every char log in on halloween and have one spawn in their pack. Cause having a counter will gurantee everyone a robe and then whats the point of having something rare. I know you believe that your points are always the right ones but this time your wrong big time. How bout the EM's go look at your house find every item you own you think is special and then give everyone one of those too? How's that work for you up on your high horse?

    Devs thanks for doing a great job and making something exciting for a change. No matter what there will always be some sad chaps who have to complain on a BB. Or some Holyier than thou who thinks everyones opinion except his is BS. Meanwhile the rest of us will play the game and reap the benefits without having to beg for handouts, or demand fixes to things not broken. Cause we took a chance as intended!
     
  43. God listen to you whining lil trammies.. waaaa waaaa.. you guys ruin the game to begin with cryin to the mods to fix this and fix that.. make all of you UO equal and kill the market and value of everything!! :rant2:
     
  44. Astrel

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    While it is very easy for some to say that the reward should not be easily obtainable (if you really think that getting 50 crystals is that easy), but these spots are camped by guilds (community spirit?) all day and night when the gypsies are in monster form.

    It's the same situation as the previous quest robes given away in the abyss, where obviously it was the intention of the developers for everyone who participated in the new expansion to receive one, and look what happened.

    While I can appreciate the ingenuity in this quest, the developers have left its conclusion somewhat open to exploitation, which considering the limited time of some players is liable to leave a bad taste at the end of it. I think that the Dev team should become more aware of such potential issues, and maybe they should start consulting Slim on to how to prevent such things.
     
  45. slaveone

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    That's just a lie. You don't even seem to know what your talking about. Do you even have a 140 luck robe? I'm not in some super huge guild and i got 2 robes all by my lonesome (that means no help) if i'd had more blue crystals i coulda had 3. This is no where near as hard or impossible as you people are trying to make it seem. I witness this exact same charade everytime there is something kinda rare in UO that people want but don't want to put forth the effort to get. The bottom line is either you put forth the effort or you don't. I seriously doubt many people who actually accumulated 50 crystals and took them all at once down to a infected gypsy didn't get their robe. If they did do that and they didn't get one well then they didn't take a few obvious precautions. Thats their fault not the devs.

    If this gets made any easier i want Fire colored Cu Shides to spawn more cause i've tamed many, many, many cu's and never gotten one. It's just NOT FAIR. waahhha waahhaa wahhaa......
     
  46. Demonous

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    hah this made me laugh, good comparison to the lotto :)
     
  47. Quenchant

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    To me, it just seems this process is all in the spirit of trick or treating. No reason to change anything, it's good the way it is.

    Q
     
  48. Demonous

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    they aren't camped on my shard
     
  49. well, i do think it was in bad taste for the devs to make a 140 luck robe, and on top of it, add 5 DCI and 2 MR. people were whining about how the cloaks from the cloaks of corruption turn-in were going to be overpowered, and they toned them down; yet here's an event where more overpowered items are introduced and everyone is scrambling and whining about how hard they are to acquire.