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For Our Troops

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Cailleach, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. Cailleach

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    Have just picked this up on a board 'elsewhere' that I post on, and I think it's a fantastic idea. It would be wonderful if it picked up momentum and we all wore red on Fridays, not just in the UK, but all over the place.


    Last week I was in West London attending a conference.

    While I was in the airport, returning home, I heard several people behind me beginning to clap and cheer.

    I immediately turned around and witnessed one of the greatest acts of patriotism I have ever seen.

    Moving through the terminal was a group of soldiers in their uniforms, as they began heading to their gate everyone (well almost everyone) was abruptly to their feet with their hands waving and cheering.

    When I saw the soldiers, probably 30-40 of them, being applauded and cheered for, it hit me. I'm not alone. I'm not the only red blooded Briton who still loves this country and supports our troops and their families. Of course I immediately stopped and began clapping for these young unsung heroes who are putting their lives on the line everyday for us so we can go to school, work, and enjoy our home without fear or reprisal.

    Just when I thought I could not be more proud of my country or of our service men and women a young girl, not more than 6 or 7 years old, ran up to one of the male soldiers.

    He knelt down and said 'hi,' the little girl then asked him if he would give something to her daddy for her.

    The young soldier didn't look any older than maybe 22 himself, said he would try and what did she want to give to her daddy.

    Suddenly the little girl grabbed the neck of this soldier, gave him the biggest hug she could muster and then kissed him on the cheek.

    The mother of the little girl, who said her daughters name was Courtney, told the young soldier that her husband was a Corporal and had been in Afghanistan for 5 months now.

    As the mum was explaining how much her daughter, Courtney, missed her father, the young soldier began to tear up.

    When this temporarily single mum was done explaining her situation, all of the soldiers huddled together for a brief second.

    Then one of the other servicemen pulled out a military looking walkie-talkie.

    They started playing with the device and talking back and forth on it.

    After about 10-15 seconds of this, the young soldier walked back over to Courtney, bent down and said this to her, 'I spoke to your daddy and he told me to give this to you.'

    He then hugged this little girl that he had just met and gave her a Kiss on the cheek.

    He finished by saying 'Your daddy told me to tell you that he loves you more than anything and he is coming home very soon.'

    The mum at this point was crying almost uncontrollably and as the young soldier stood to his feet he saluted Courtney and her mum.

    I was standing no more than 6 feet away as this entire event unfolded.

    As the soldiers began to leave, heading towards their gate, people resumed their applause.

    As I stood there applauding and looked around, there were very few dry eyes, including my own.

    That young soldier in one last act of moment turned around and blew a kiss to Courtney with a tear rolling down his cheek.

    We need to remember everyday all of our soldiers and their families and thank God for them and their sacrifices.

    At the end of the day, it's good to be an Englishman.

    RED FRIDAYS

    Very soon, you will see a great many people wearing Red every Friday.

    The reason?

    Englishmen and women who support our troops used to be called the 'silent majority'.

    We are no longer silent, and are voicing our love for Country and home in record breaking numbers.

    We are not organized, boisterous or over-bearing.

    We get no liberal media coverage on TV, to reflect our message or our opinions.

    Many English people, like you, me and all our friends, simply want to recognize that the vast majority of Britain supports our troops.

    Our idea of showing solidarity and support for our troops with dignity and respect starts this Friday and continues each and every Friday until the troops all come home, sending a deafening message that every Briton who supports our men and women afar will wear something red.

    By word of mouth, press, TV -- let's make Great Britain on every Friday a sea of red much like a homecoming football team

    If every one of us who loves this country will share this with acquaintances, co-workers, friends, and family, It will not be long before Britain is covered in RED and it will let our troops know the once 'silent' majority is on their side more than ever, certainly more than the media lets on.

    The first thing a soldier says when asked 'What can we do to make things better for you?' is...'We need your support and your prayers'...

    Let's get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by example; and wear something red every Friday.
     
  2. Grumm

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    Alot has changed since Vietnam. Those troops were spat upon and shunned for decisions made by the countries governments involved.

    I have seen a change in the peoples awareness of the fact that the troops are defending the belief of freedom, choice and happiness. All of us that served and are currently serving took an oath to defend these beliefs.

    I served 12 years in the U.S. Army and can tell you that every care package that was sent and every thank you card received from people like you are what keeps our spirits up.

    I had to choke back a tear reading this and thank you so much for showing the troops all over the world that the people do care about us and not allow the decisions of the governments to dampen your support for those of us standing up for the belief of freedom.
     
  3. Aran

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    Anyone who enlists during the current world conflicts knows what they're getting in to, and deserve the derision that comes from it.
     
  4. I'm curious to hear the logic behind that statement
     
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    It's good to be a Scotsman.
     
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    Or even a Scotswoman :D
     
  7. Aran

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    It's bad to be a sheep in Scotland.
     
  8. RichDC

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    Please dont post this stuff!!

    Do you know how embarrasing it is to well up at work!!! :p

    I will be wearing red on Friday, It is as you said, Good to be an Englishman...No, GREAT to be an Englishman!
     
  9. Nestorius

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    Sure, real great:
    linky

     
  10. Cailleach

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    I have to say that I'm entirely unsurprised by the above post. Something else that people might find interesting is that the EU has a special squad trained to put down civil disturbance. I can only assume that they would be working alongside the army, in light of the post above. Nothing about this government surprises or shocks me any more, but I retain the ability to be thoroughly disgusted by them and their behaviour, and I am.
     
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    The Battle of the Braes springs to mind :)
     
  12. Grumm

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    How did this thread go from thanking all those that defend the rights of free people, to a government trying to encite civil unrest? Can we please get this thread back on track and remember that we wouldn't even have the luxury to post here if not for the sacrifices of others. Thank you.

    The thread title is "For Our Troops", not "Potential civil unrest in the UK". Start a new thread if you want to "awaken" the UK residents to the diabolical plans of their government.
     
  13. Aran

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    Looks on topic to me.
     
  14. Arch Magus

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    No posting off topic in Off Topic?

    Now i'm really confused.

    Why do you hate freedom?
    *lol*
     
  15. Aran

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    Why do you hate America?
     
  16. Arch Magus

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    Dude what's going on in your sig exactly?

    the av is win , btw.
     
  17. Aran

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    Chuck Norris and James Bond fighting to the death in the Batcave.

    Duh.
     
  18. Jonny

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    It's a sad thing. People here in the States don't do anything like that for our troops. Most people are so concerned with the politics of war that they forget about the men and women actually having to fight the wars.

    Agree with the war or not, there are still people out there fighting for you.

    Of course, I look damn ugly in Red, so I won't be doing any of that. I have no problem though speaking in defense of my fellow Working Class brothers and sisters and I'll be sure to give a thank you to every one of them I talk to.
     
  19. Grumm

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    Was that "why do you hate freedom" reply directed to me? I sure hope not. As I said, I served 12 years in the U.S. Army and lost my right leg defending your right to be free. I may not agree with all that the U.S. Gov. does, but I do believe in what the american flag represents and nearly gave my life defending that belief.

    Why do I hate America? See above sentences.

    A post was started thanking those men and women who have sacrificed life and limb to keep your right do what you want and someone wanted to ruin it by throwing in some propaganda about a "what if" question.

    Sorry if I seem overly sensitive, but the troops deserve all our thanks and support.
     
  20. Aran

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    To quote my previous reply:

    I don't feel bad for any soldier who joined after, say, mid-September, 2001. They knew what they were getting in to.
     
  21. Aran

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    And you didn't protect my freedom. The US hasn't been threatened in many a year. But nice try.
     
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    I disagree with almost every word that my government says; hell, if a politician told me that the sun is shining and water is wet, I'd have to double check. But I support the troops, in all the services, 100%.

    It's easy to say 'oh, they knew what they were getting into' but, in certain areas, joining the army or the air force or navy is about the only chance these young men and women will have at any sort of career and betterment for themselves and their families. Some of the best troops we have come from the most impoverished areas of our country, impoverishment, ironically, caused by policies of previous governments and carried on by this one.

    Yes, they get paid, yes, they knew what they were doing. But does that really mean that we can't support them and show that support?
     
  23. Jonny

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    Aran, I don't know you, but you're a ******bag. That's just the kind of talk that would come from some ultra-liberal hippie that is too afraid to serve themselves.

    Now I'm not republican or democrat, I hate them both equally. I don't like the politics used in this little war and I hate that our troops have to fight it; yet they fight it all the same. Whether or not you agree with it does not change the fact that those men and women joined the service because they wanted to help you.

    Of course, now days, they might just join because that stupid Obama has made it so damn hard to get a job.

    Ugh... Left wing; right wing... they all equal crooks to me.
     
  24. Aran

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    You see fear, I see disapproval. Why would I join the military to fight people I find myself agreeing with more every day?

    We went into their lands, they retaliated. We started this, not them. Now we're somehow the "good guys"?
     
  25. Aran

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    Tell me, which of your rights are being fought for by invading a foreign country?
     
  26. RichDC

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    QFT.

    I cant write what i really want to say so ill just quote you.

    Well said!

    It Isnt about right or wrong, its about respect and i dont give a f**k what you think Aran, anyone fighting for their country deserves respect!
     
  27. Aran

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    The propaganda machine is working.

    And if you really want to tell me how you feel, feel free to hop on over to No Holds Barred, it's right up at the top.

    Something tells me you can't see it, though. It IS 18+...
     
  28. Aran

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    Though just so we're clear... you DO respect any standing armies in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Israel, or any other country we've set our sights on, yes?
     
  29. RichDC

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    I respect the armies yes, terrorists no.

    Soldiers do a job, to, in the most part bring peace. Terrorists try to disrupt peace. Just because a soldier may fight against me i still respect them, majority live by a code of honour and are just doing a job. Terrorists have no honour and dont deserve respect.
     
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    The only difference between terrorist and soldier is who's writing the definitions.
     
  31. RichDC

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    That is a matter of opinion.

    Terrorists have a different agenda to soldiers, soldiers are fighting to bring about peace by fending of combatants. Terrorists dont care who they target and mostly target innocent non-combatants so long as they bring about terror and unrest.
     
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    Let me guess, still in high school?
     
  33. RichDC

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    We dont have high school in the uk, but no. Havent been in education since i finished my degree in international marketing.
     
  34. Aran

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    That explains it way better than my theory.
     
  35. Jonny

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    You know something Aran, I actually hate the Federal Government. I consider myself a patriot, not a nationalist. However, these men and women fighting are either doing it because they believe they are helping you or they're doing it because they need a job.

    Are you against people fighting for what they believe in or people supporting their families by having to risk their lives? Forget the politics of it all; we already know the Government is wrong.

    These men and women are the finest the working class has to offer. They are willing to sacrifice everything for either what they believe in or to support the ones they love or sometimes both.

    Agree or not, they still require a lot more respect then some moron who sits on the computer and gripes about how they're just baby killers.
     
  36. Hanna

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    Hey Aran, what vacuum of the ultra liberal university system did you grow up in?

    My ex-husband and I both went to college, we both served in the military. I served 8 years, my ex served 22 years.

    Your probably part of the same liberal group that is complaining because we don't invade some of the African countries because of their civil wars. Yet you complain that we do invade countries that actually do affect our countries interests and regularly support terrorists. Yet, you do want America to be the policeman of the world, but only if it agrees with your distorted views. And then you complain that it cost money and soldiers die.

    And for some unknown reason you think someone using bombs, cars, planes to try to randomly kill as many randomly people as possible is not terrorism. Or slowly cutting the head off of a journalist and posting it on the web is the act of your buddies. But throwing water in a terrorist's face or a caterpillar in their cell just appalls you.

    The problem with Iraq is that they didn't take Sadam out of power in 1991 when they should have, because they didn't want to weaken the area with Iran being in the extreme nutty zealot phase. And they were afraid of tackling the problem of uniting the 3 distinct groups in Iraq into one cohesive government (which Sadam accomplished with terrorism against his own people). THAT was a political decision, not military.

    In 1991 the Iraqi people were ready for it, in 2002 they didn't trust us because we just abandoned them in 1991. Most of the military knew it was a mistake and that we would have to go back. Now we back and not only have to deal with uniting the 3 distinct factions, but also have to fight a terrorist group bent on destroying the freedoms and lives of anyone that doesn't agree with them and do what they say. A terrorist group that get more embolden and empowered when ever a liberal anti-American anti-military person such as your self opens their mouth.
     
  37. Aran

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    I'm not reading all that. Instead, I'm going to assume you agree with me 100% and think I'm the greatest.

    Thanks for your support!
     
  38. Jonny

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    And we can assume from that, that since you don't care enough to read it or even respond to my post before it directed at you, that you do not care enough to defend your point. That makes it invalid and you admit that by your failing to stand your ground.

    So not only are you wrong, but you can't even stand up for yourself.
     
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    I hadn't even noticed you posted.
     
  40. Nestorius

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    some offtopic but i is interested cause troops maeks martial law in americas to.

    linky
     
  41. Aran

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    Oh Nest, don't you know that US troops are beacons of honor who would never do anything against their fellow Americans, even under orders?
     
  42. Jonny

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    Aran, you continue to talk? Why? You've clearly given up by not defending yourself any further.

    Oh, and soldiers don't make orders. They follow them. Korea and Vietnam were wrong because of the people making the orders, not the men carrying out the orders.
     
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    Following an immoral or illegal order makes you just as bad as the Nazis.

    Remember, they were just following orders, too.
     
  44. Jonny

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    Have you ever heard of "Third Wave", Aran? It was a social experiment done on a high school in California. It took a classroom full of your average teenagers following a trend and it turned into a school-wide movement based completely on the Nazi's. None of the willing participants realized what they were doing until the very end of the experiment.

    If average teenagers can be turned into gestapos so easily, or say Hitler enforces something called the Hitler Youth, then why can't the same brainwashing techniques be used on our own soldiers? I'm not saying they're hypnotized, but a belief system for chain of command is constantly enforced on them.
     
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    That doesn't absolve them.
     
  46. Jonny

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    So a kid who is forced to murder a puppy because that's what Hitler wants them to do is still guilty of killing a puppy, regardless that he was forced to?

    Also, let's not forget, in a war, the soldier is always told he's on the right side. Now we tell ourselves that we were on the right side of World War II because we knew what was going on in Germany and Japan attacked us first. However, the Nazis thought they were fighting for The Empire. If you look back on the records of Nazi POW during and after the war, most of them had no idea about the concentration camps or gas chambers.

    Grunts just carry out orders. They don't make them and they don't always know the motives behind them or what's really going on behind the scenes.
     
  47. Nestorius

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    Yes, actually, the grunt is responsible for any war crimes they commit. Your Nazis fighting for The Empire got the death penalty at Nuremburg when they did wrong whether or not they thought they were just following orders.
     
  48. Jonny

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    You're talking to someone who actually studies history, Nestorius. The Nuremberg Trials were for the numerous Nazi officers and politicians leading the Holocaust. Your average grunt was not involved, else they would have had a a lot of dead Germans there.

    However, I do agree that a line should be drawn for soldiers. I would never in a million years excuse the atrocities of the Holocaust and I believe when you see something like that you have to question it, no matter what side you're on. Then again, there was also a lot of brainwashing going on in the Nazi Era.
     
  49. Nestorius

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    No, they were not trying the average German solider, but they did establish this principle at Nuremberg:
    Then again post-WWII was a wacky time. They were even calling waterboarding a form of torture and a war crime. Silly people.
     
  50. Jonny

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    Well I support the average soldier, but then again, most the men in my family are career military. My point was that average grunts weren't tried, as your post made it sound.

    Also, I say water boarding is just swell for getting info. It won't kill 'em so why not? I don't trust it in the hands of this Federal Government though.