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From a Role-Playing stance which City

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Schatzi, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. Schatzi

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    From a RPing point of view which city would be the opposite of Luna (Luna being evil)
    which would you consider to be good...
     
  2. Leira of Asrai

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    Umbra?

    Luna is the home of the Paladin who uses Holy strength in armed combat.
    Umbra is the home of the Necromancer who uses unholy magic in unarmed combat.

    Paladins sacrifice themselves for the betterment of all things living.
    Necromancers use the power of the undead for their personal gain.

    From a role playing perspective, I don't think Luna and Paladins could ever be considered "evil".
    They could be considered the enemy of the necromancers, but from a necromancer's perspective everything that is Good should be corrupted or destroyed.
     
  3. GalenKnighthawke

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    There is a high likelihood that the original post was quite, quite insincere, a in mockery of Luna and RP.

    -Galen's player
     
  4. Irulia Darkaith

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    Well my take on the post is that Luna would be "evil" to a roleplayer because it represents everything roleplayers would avoid in a village. So with that in mind, pretty much any other city would be equally "good" on most shards since they're empty :D I know on my shard Yew was originally the town of choice for roleplayers, and then it became Skara Brae.
     
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  5. Schatzi

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    galen...no my post was not a mockery..I am decoing 2 of my towers on my castle..one will be
    all evil deco and the other Good...I want to use 2 of the city crystal balls and wanted info on
    which was considered the City of Good per se. I believe Magincia of old was good but after
    the invasion people considered it evil due to the pillaging of the rubble..so maybe this will help
    in what I am asking...I love Luna, shop there all the time..but that is not what this post was
    about.
     
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  6. Irulia Darkaith

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    Hmm, in that case I would have to go with Trinsic, since it's the original home of Paladins before Luna but then you could say it was tainted when the lich (Juo'nar?) invaded the city. Skara Brae and Yew have always struck me as neutral.

    Anyway, here is the official list of each city and the virtue they stand for...

    http://uo.stratics.com/content/atlas/cities.shtml
     
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    Each city in Britannia represents a Virtue, each Dungeon a Sin or Anti-Virtue.

    Here's the list:

    http://www.uoguide.com/Virtues

    The Virtues collectively are "Good" in the Ultima universe, with a substantial gray area in between each Virtue and between Good (the Virtues collectively) and Evil. Chaos is also a complicating factor because, as King Blackthorn taught it, Chaos plainly is not evil, merely an alternative path to good that is not necessarily inconsistent with the Virtues (which is not to say it can't be inconsistent with the Virtues, merely that it doesn't have to be).

    So to pick a Britannian City? You're out of luck, as any of them can represent Good.

    Magincia was never regarded as being particularly good before its destruction; it represented the Virtue of Humility, but it was not a particularly humble place before its destruction. Indeed the Pride of that City (Pride being the Sin or Anti-Virtue opposite Humility) helped to facilitate its destruction. The Great Lakes Event Moderators expressed the dynamic quite beautifully: Pride attracted the demons, ruin encouraged them. In other words, they came in part because it was fun to destroy the prideful. And they stayed in part because it was fun to kick back with some fried baby parts and fetus blood ale among the ruins and enjoy their vile handiwork.

    Magincia now, or rather New Magincia, is in the players' hands now; is in our hands.

    With regard to Malas, the 2 main cities of which appear to be outside of the control of the Britannian Crown, the situation is different.

    From the fiction and from some pretty big but reasonable extrapolations from the fiction, it appears as though Luna represents Good (it is associated with a skill that depends in-part on high Karma) and Umbra represents Evil (it is associated with a skill that lowers Karma).

    Indeed as far as I can tell the only way you could possibly refer to Luna as "Evil" is either by thinking its NPCs are hypocritical (in which case the city itself would still represent Good, even if its leaders and residents are but shadows of their ancestors), or (more likely) as a sly reference to the way some players refer to it as evil because of the commerce that goes on there.

    -Galen's player
     
  8. Schatzi

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    Thank you all...this is exactly what I was searching for!!!

    Thank you for the links..!!!!!
     
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    Skara Brae of course. Scottish and proud of it.