Kinda meandering post here, but.... The prevailing opinion appears to be that you should unravel well into the seventies, before switching to actually using imbuing to gain. However, I'm at 58.x, and am having a beast of a time gaining. I've been killing arctic ogre lords (primarily because it's the toughest thing I can kill without an epic struggle, I just use ogre slayer spellbook), and taking bags of about 50 items looted (I loot every item except the clubs (of course)). Now, however, I'm getting about .1 from each bag that I unravel. Is this a typical result, or are the items I'm getting too weak to give me good gains? If the problem is the quality of the items, is there any chance someone can suggest a slightly better option than the AOL?