===== Sporadic ingot drop ... ===== This is a combination of your weight AND when macro'd, how the piles of large ores are smelted. I use 2D/UOA with a smelt macro that targets by "item type" large ore piles then uses my fire beetle as the forge. Typically I mine and get overweight (Max carry 537, usually weigh 560 or so before smelting), so if the macro picks a pile of ore that even when smelted would keep me overweight, the ingots drop. If the ore pile chosen is the largest (typically iron) then I will not experience ingot drops. So the poster(s) who told the OP on the thread that it had to be his weight were right on the money. I thought you were right but had to play a bit to see for myself. Thanks! ===== Small ore not stacking ===== Want to see small ores NOT stack? When mining and looking to smelt large or medium valorite ore, I have noticed that these will - if failed often enough - actually create a stack of small ore(s). Okay ... that's fine. But, watch as you smelt your next pile of large (or medium) valorite ore, if smalls are created from failure ... and did they stack with any previous smalls? Last night when all was said and done, I had 4 small Valorite ores that had NOT stacked - in individual 1-ore piles, but readily did so when I dropped them on my character. I didn't note it with Verite or anything "lesser". Seemed only to be Valorite. ===== Okay, it's boring on the noon-to-midnight shift today. Sue me!