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gift of life.. needs reworked... kinda useless maybe even broken..

Discussion in 'UHall' started by aarons6, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. aarons6

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    so i cast gift of life on my self, and i die.
    about 2/3rd of the time i get a message saying i am dead and cannot do that..
    the other 1/3rd of the time, a resurrection gump opens up and i cant walk or do anything but accept and get res killed, or cancel and walk away... still dead.



    what good is this?
     
  2. popps

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  3. aarons6

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    i think gift of life should at least resurrect you hidden with full health..
     
  4. pgib

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    I think the failures are due to the fact that resurrection dialog gets disposed, maybe because of some ui event still on the queue that the system consumes after death. I say that because the same thing happens sometimes if you die close to a npc healer.

    It is crystal clear that being asked to be resurrected while stuck near the mob that killed you is a practical request for a res-kill (noob system!).
     
  5. popps

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    Yet, in so many years the Developers have never adjusted this problem..............
     
  6. Kylie Kinslayer

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    imho

    Not something they should adjust with the spell. However, they could code it to where IF you had available honor it would kick in upon Gift rezzing you. As if stands now, you are already targetted before getting honor on yourself.
     
  7. pgib

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    The fact is that we see what doesn't work but we don't really know why. Some bugs are easy to fix, some aren't, without the code we can just see what happens, whine a bit a cross our fingers.
     
  8. rajadeah

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    I think gift of life is perfect just the way it is. I use it to solo high end PVM like harbringers and peerless and it works great. you just have to time it right sometimes you have to wait a few minutes before you except the rez and plan which way your going to run lol. even plan ahead like drop bandages and pots or a arcane item in key locations before you start to fight.
     
  9. R Traveler

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    There is one more issue with this spell. You must recast it after losing connection.

    Common scenario - you lose connection under spell effect and die while offline.
     
  10. Kralock

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    also when cast on my pet, my pet will die and then hall arse off screen right as i click the ok button, and get the msg that my pet is out of range. Someone tell my dragon speed hacking is not allowed.
     
  11. pgib

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    Well, that's the well know running dead pet bug. Always south-east for some reason.
     
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    To combat this deal I tell pet to follow me and wait for it to "land" before I click the ok. That is provided I am still alive :)
     
  13. elspeth

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    I have had no troubles with the gump not opening at all. But I do sometimes wish I could run a little ways away before accepting the rez. I wish this for wandering healer rezzes as well though. Can't count how many times I've had to cancel healer rez, back off and go in big circle around to get away from bad mob.

    As a tamer, I've been able to use this pretty successfully anyways though. As long as pet is still up and stuff is targetting pet. Of course, you can wait but if you wait to long I've discovered that it won't rez you. Don't know how long the timer is.

    It seems like it shouldn't be too hard to have some button to invoke the self rez instead of it automatically doing it for you. That would be better than it hiding me or using my honor.
     
  14. aarons6

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    yes having some kind of do you want a res message come up would be nice maybe it can last a few seconds and let you run away a few.. it does suck when your are in the middle of a whole mob of monsters and the only option is to take a res and try to run for it with 0 health and no armor.
     
  15. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    makes no sense that we have etheral voyage and gift of life is a practical joke..

    we should res and have an etheral voyage ready to go...

    if thats what they call a legendary spellweaver...

    its definately a spellweaker :p
     
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    Actually, as the Gift of Life is currently designed, it gets even worse than that......

    Once a player who had the Gift of Life spell cast before dyeing, dies right in the middle of a pack of MoBs (or with whatever MoB that got the player killed, nearby...), and the Gift of Life resurrection gump pops up without the player having any possibility to control the popping up of the gump, well, the gump comes with a timeout life..........

    Yes, the player cannot even sit there waiting too long that whatever killed him/her walks away because if the wait time gets too long, the gump times out and even clicking on the ressing button has no effect, the player won't get resurrected.....

    So, as it has been designed, with no ability to walk away as a ghost and no control in when the ressing gump should pop up or how long it should stay on screen, most of the time Gift of Life ends up only being a rez-killing spell...........= Die, res on the spot, gets killed again by whatever killed the player the first time...........wow, what a usefull spell....
    /sarcasm

    But as I said, this flaw has been lamented for years now, and nothing has been done so far to change the design of this spell.
     
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    At the very least, the player being ressed should be invised right upon ressing and this would solve at least a good chunk of the lamented problems with being res-killed.
     
  18. aarons6

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    i use ethereal voyage to tame dragons.. just wish it didnt have such a huge timeout..
     
  19. LordDrago

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    Unless a dev responds and states that Gift of Life is not working as intended, there is no evidence that it is broken.

    Is it always effective? obviously not, bet then again, almost every spell has its limitations. Perhaps Gift of Life is working just as the devs desired it when it was created. Sometimes it is a lifesaver and sometimes not.

    Or maybe it is broken... :)

    I know it has saved my butt several times (although, let's be honest how often is a rez impossible to get?) and many times its justa gump that i immediately remove and ghost walk (run) myself the hell out of Dodge to rez one of the other ways.

    Now, if they do change it, perhaps leave it as is at GM, 5 seconds of run at 110, and 10 seconds at 120. (or perhaps a 5 or 10 second delay in agro once activated).
     
  20. R Traveler

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    Res in etheral voyage form for normal duration of this spell. Problem solved.
     
  21. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    you got me on ignore too Rtraveler ? :confused:

    if it wasn't that powerful, it shouldn't be one of spellweaving highest spells...

    its broken :/ its been for a while...

    but is one of the "ignored" subjects as underlined by Galen...
     
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    Oh my. Left open page for too long and not refreshed it before reply :lol:
     
  23. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    haha thank you ! I was worried...

    I know theres 30+ ppl ignoring me ... getting a bit paranoid :p