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Goblins ub Pitmuck

Discussion in 'UO Chesapeake' started by old gypsy, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. old gypsy

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    Tonite wuz a bigs disapointmnt fer ussins. Dat Blackthorny guy dat callz himzelf da king refuseded ta grant da wunderfuls petishun wees presinteds toos himz. Butz take hart, Goblins. Wees notz gibin ups da dreem ub beein ours owns nashun sumday. Wees willz notz axcept defeet!

    ~ Icky Rotblossom ~
     
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    HIMZ NO EBEN GIBES IT THOUGHT. HIMZ JUST SAYS NO. HIMZ A DICTATOR. WEEES NO LIKES HIMZ
    WEEES WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FER USINS RIGHTS !!! WEEE NO BOWS TO ONES !!!
     
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    HIMZ BEEES DIS : DESPOT
    despot has been applied pejoratively to a person, particularly a head of state or government, who abuses their power and authority to oppress their people, subjects or subordinates
     
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    Yerg! :sad2:

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    Perhaps we should all step back and give careful thought to this entire affair before it gets out of hand.

    I consider the Pitmuck Goblins friends of Vesper, and you are all welcome here. I have done my best to make accommodations to that end, including the stump on the bank island and the ice cream and candy in the Vesper Auction House. Understand that my criticisms come from a place of affection and concern.

    After the goblins left the Council meeting, it was clear that King Blackthorn was quite insulted by the tone of the petition and the implications made in the petition itself and by the goblins presenting it. He specifically stated that he did not appreciate demands being made of him.

    I am holding a copy of the petition in my hand right now. Allow me to quote:

    The petition then goes on to request that Pitmuck be declared a "Tribel Terratorrie".

    As I stated in the Goblin Convention, this sounds to me as though the Goblins of Pitmuck wish to establish the island of Pitmuck as a reservation of sorts. While I find this potentially unwise and possibly deleterious to Pitmuck for various reasons, I believe that, so long as Pitmuck does not attempt to secede entirely from Britannia, a formal declaration of Pitmuck's standing as a Goblin territory within Britannia is not unreasonable if that is truly the wish of the Pitmuck Goblins.

    However, in the Council Meeting, it sounded more as though Pitmuck wished to secede entirely from Britannia. I cannot agree with this any more than King Blackthorn did. We are not a single people, but we are one land of many peoples. It is our unity that makes us strong.

    Of course this concept was dismissed out of hand. Secession from Britannia would both damage the foundation of Britannia and likely prove harmful --if not fatal!-- to Pitmuck. The current invasion should be more than adequate evidence that no single city or township can stand alone when powerful outside forces seek to harm us. It would be no different if Vesper wished to leave Britannia--whatever might be gained in independence would be more than lost in the loss of support from the crown and the Guard.

    The long absence of strong central leadership until recently in Britannia should not imply that Britannia can or should be splintered into multiple nations. King Blackthorn has been, by far, the most democratic leader that Britannia has ever known, but he is still the highest authority in the land. So long as he rules fairly, he has my support, and I have seen no evidence that he is incapable of or unwilling to do so. In fact, I believe he has been quite reasonable.

    For the most relevant examples, I remind you that he insisted on a fair trial in Skara Brae for Ozog, and that he welcomes citizens of all standing in Britannia to address him at Council Meetings as time permits. He has been very indulgent of Goblin behavior during the meetings, even though much of it is outside what we humans would consider proper for such a venue.

    I am uncertain exactly how it is that he is oppressing the Pitmuck Goblins, or anyone else for that matter. Perhaps a more concise enumeration of perceived slights against Goblinkind by Britannia and the throne might help clear this situation up a bit. I understand that you are disappointed by the rejection of your petition, but throwing around implications that the King is a tyrant (or that he isn't the king at all, as was implied in the petition itself) does nothing to further your cause and only exacerbates the situation.

    After the Goblins left the meeting, Governor Victor II offered to help the Goblins work on the petition to try to reach a solution acceptable to all parties. I, of course, am more than happy to offer my services as well.

    Again, I consider the Pitmuck Goblins to be friends to myself and to the City of Vesper. Let's work together to keep Britannia both united AND inclusive of all our citizens.

    -Governor Ivy of Vesper
     
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    Dat bees exactalyly wat weeuns axed fer, Gov Ivy. Dat's allz weeuns eber axed fer. Az fer bein perlite er notz, weeuns wuz az perlite az goblins kin bees. Weeuns hab ours ways, en iffin weeuns hadz ta bees en acts lik humies, weeuns wudnt bees goblins eny mores! Dat allz mees gotz ta sey.

    ~ Icky Rotblossom ~
    Citizun ub Pitmuck :wall:
     
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    I have ordered my captain to park my galleon near the coasts of Pitmuck, and to open fire against any incoming ship of hostile intent.

    The King is not able to fulfill his royal duties of defending the major cities of the realm, much less a remote island of what he seems to consider second class citizens.

    I think it is most honorable that these people wish to take their destiny in their own hands, amd heeby reaffirm my support to their cause.

    Beyond politics, they have earned my friendship and respect. They have been with us on the battlefields countless times. They have fought with us, bleeded, suffered and died with us. And celebrated with us in times of joy.

    If matters come to to worst, you can count on me. FREE PITMUCK !!

    Tehan of Yew.
     
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    Unfortunately, it did not come off that way in the presentation of the petition. It sounded like Pitmuck wished to remove itself from Britannia entirely, and judging from what I'm seeing here and elsewhere I think that may be what some people DO wish. I cannot support this, as I believe it is bad for both Britannia and Pitmuck.

    I do not expect Goblins to behave as humans, but clearly there is a communication issue here that must be addressed.

    I respect and support the Goblins of Pitmuck, but baseless denunciations of the king and declarations of secession and civil war are out of line. As I stated above, I truly do not see the Goblins being treated unfairly. I don't see a problem with a Tribal Territory that remains under the Crown, but that is not what last night's presentation sounded like.

    -Governor Ivy of Vesper
     
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    So you think the Pitmuck Goblins can fight off these invaders alone when Britannians of all persuasions working together struggle with them? That is absurd. Vesper is a major port city but we could not fight off our invaders without assistance from citizens of other cities and townships. Jhelom, training ground for fighters, Moonglow, a city of skilled mages, Britain, the capital city and home to warriors and combatants of many disciplines, Trinsic, city of paladins, all need help repelling these invaders. Are you suggesting the King send reinforcements to a remote island that is not even under attack while the large cities are under siege?

    I've seen nothing to indicate that King Blackthorn considers the Goblins second class citizens. He has in fact been quite adamant that they be treated fairly.

    -Governor Ivy of Vesper
     
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    Dat jes goes ta sho howz misunderstoods da goblins bees inz dis land. Wees bees goos ta eberybuddie butz dey noe respec ours wayz en tink weeuns shud acts lik dem insted ub actin lik goblins. Wees bees a MOB, Gov. Ivy... wit ours owns terratoriee en weeuns notz cuts out ta bee serfs. Wees gibs da same kinda respec weeun gits... en dat goes fer enybuddie, includin dose whoo wud bees king. :scholar:

    ~ Icky Rotblossom ~

    *clears throat*

    P.S. En sumthin else - goblins votes fer tings. Pitmck bees a place wher wees allz kin votes, en mees sures dint vote fer enybuddie ta bees king.
     
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    Himz treets usins like himz tinks himz betters en smarters den usins. Himz notz betters er smarters. Himz jes different...

    *whispers* ...en himz toos power-hungrie iffin yoos ax mees.

    ~ Icky Rotblossom ~
     
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    mebe wees shoulda brought sumbody to translate fer thorny, himz not as used ta goblin speak as our goblin friends bees.
     
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    himz does talk funny yoos kno
     
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    an mees tink wees coulda got himz ta say yerg once himz understand what wees askin, but wees goblins no like no, so wees git werked up fast, an when wees git werked up wees like ta sa tings :D Uppity ups, no like dat an den dey git werked up too!
     
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    Dats da problem, Nubby. Himz uppity-up... :(

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    yerg, so wees gotta treat himz like uh uppity up until wees git wat wees want :) den wees hab funz
     
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    To Whom It May Concern:

    I wish to convey my concern regarding the present controversy between the Goblins of Pitmuck and certain persons in the Britannian halls of government. I assure all citizens of the land that nothing has changed here on the blessed and peaceful Isle of Pitmuck. The mission is always open and food and drink is always free to any visitor. Contrary to one part of Icky's bulletin board greeting, please be assured that all are always welcome at the mission, whether or not they wear a crown.

    Thank you sincerely,
    Lucy Little

    P.S. Please note that anything Icky may have said at the Governors' meeting in regard to improving the economy was her own suggestion. There are no plans for opening a casino or smoke-shop on Pitmuck.
     
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    yoos knoo.... himz did say wees can hab Ilshenar... Dat mean da rbg gotta ask usin ifn dey can come in?
     
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    Ohhhhh! Mees mist dat! Tells mees mores!

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    well, himz was say wees can hab ta vast tracks ob land in Ilshenar, or wees go an ask da empress ob tokuno or da queen flappy fer land, so mees tinkin dat means himz sayin all Ilshenar bees ours!
     
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    too bad himz destroy himz castle der, or wees coulda moved in! (mees tink himz do dat so eberone ferget himz ebil)
     
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    hmmm... Mees dunno, Nubby. Maybees himz wuz jes tryin ta gits usins ta shuts upz. Mees betz himz didn't meen eny ub itz. o_O

    ~ Icky Rotblossm ~

    Ohhhh noessss! Mees jes hab a terruble thot! Wat iffin himz wantz ta MOVE usins? Wat iffin himz wantz Pitmuck fer himzselfs?! Abter allz, ebebuddie noes itz da bestest place inz da hole werld!
     
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    Wees lub yooss too Gubnor Ivy!
     
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    Yerg, wee doos. Wees alwayz will. En wees lub Tehan toos. Herz understandz usins reel goos.

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    OHHHH NOESSSS! Himz after all da icecream an rotgut an Cakes an Compost! Da Compost! Dat how himz plans ta flower all da cities!
     
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    Wees gotz ta sabe Pitmuck! Da blesseds land ub plenties!

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    I've been rather quiet on this issue but seeing King Blackthorn, immediately and without hesitation, come to the same conclusion that I did during the goblin convention, and deny this petition, I feel I need to speak up and try to explain to my goblin friends some finer points of this. I want to try and explain why I feel this way in a way you will understand:




    Tings u have:
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    Tings U in would have if Blackthorn gives you "Tribal Soverienty":
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    That is a lot of missing pie! that you would have to earn back! You would never be able to have these things outside of PitMuck Island! Your only option left would be to move! I don't think any of us want that especially when we look at the available places to go. Zento, Ter Mur, Luna, and Umbra won't let you have your own pie. In Felucca, Ilshenar, or the Underworld you would be able to make your own pie but nobody could help you.

    Right now, we are helping you have a pie! I know that having King Ozog AND King Blackthorn is stressful for the Goblins, but you should understand we are here to help you out. Without the independance we currently provide you... You would have been killed on sight in Skara Brae instead of having a fair and balanced trial. Just look at the Orcs! They live in Britannia and try to be independent, and most of them don't have any of the rights and equal treatment you get.
     
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    Yes, that's what I said!
     
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    oooo so wees could git more icrecream pie?
     
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    Dey sayd I cud gets ice creams pie here where it bees?
     
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    What I say is exactly that citizens had to take on themselves to defend the cities and suburbs. Not that the guards were not capable of doing it, they do not DARE engage the ennemies, while its their job, what they sworn their life on doing. Yourself asked that they all be firef, which I could not agree more with.

    While the Goblin diplomacy may lack the tact and decorum Blackthorne and humans are used to, those who have been in contact with the Pitmuck goblins know they have no ill intent. They are dubious to monarchy, as their ways have more to do with democracy.

    But while they could have just declared unilateral independance (i.e, "Wees ub Pitmuck beez freez, youz nod ar king anymoorz, byez".), they made the effort of writing down an official request for a sovereign leadership within the realm, which is just what exists de facto.

    Blackthorn did not make the effort of analyzing the petition under the context of Goblin culture, and plainly dismissed it, with a point of threat and rage, as if someone was stealing one of his personnal toys. His attitude was less than royal. I wouldnt go as far as despotic, but clearly, he needs to sit down and reestablish better communications with Pitmuck. Maybe some interprets might be helpful.

    In the meantime, I'll make sure no repressive forces set foot on the island.

    Tehan.
     
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    Yerg! Wat Tehan sed!!! ^^

    Wees noes wees cant mak da Blackthorny guy gibs usins da respect weeuns deserb. Buz wees alsos noes weeuns kin neber axcept eny non-goblin az king ub Pitmuck. :(

    En mees gonna talk ta Miz Lucy en triez ta mak herz understandz whys mees sez himz NOTZ welcomes atz da mission mees werks atz!

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    Yoos jes wantz da goblins ta grovels onz da ground en kiss himz feet! Mees bees a hermit ferst!

    *holds back tears and stomps off into the Pitmuck wildwood*

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    *whispers* Weeuns kin alwayz finds sum ice creams pie fer yoos, Flutter.

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    *PLOTS IN DA BACK ROUND*
    MEBE WEES NEEDS T GIBE DIS A DAZE OR TWO BEFORE WEES DOES ANYFING?
     
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    Mees gonna takes mees pet squiral en goes meditatin inz da forrest. Miz Lucy kin takes care ub da mission fer nowz. :(

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    Mees kins help. I gots good thinker head.
     
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    I think the goblins should all be rounded up and put to work in the mushroom mines.
     
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    mees like mushrooms
     
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    M3EEES TOOS
     
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    *grumbles* Iffen wees werk inz da mushroom minez, atz leest weeuns wud hab plentie ta pees onz.

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    Well I am going into the lantern making business. Basically you put an alchemically-treated glowing cave fungus in a bottle and cork it. Insta-light. Lasts weeks.
     
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    Wit da rite marketin, yoos mushroom mine cud terns outz ta bees a golds mine. Jes adbertize da libble lanterns toos da chillrun ub Britannia. Shapes da cabe fungus like dat Lord Blackthorny guy en gib da lantern a libble switch da chillrun cud tern onz en offs az dey please. Dey wud sells lik hotcakez yoos betcha!

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