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Happy New year, even to those greedy amongst us.

Discussion in 'UO Oceania' started by imported_UOPODCASTING.COM, Jan 7, 2008.

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  1. Guest

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    I always found it funny when i was doing a drop after idocs or just cleaning house, people would ask me if there was any free arties/marties/extra deco that they could have.

    Also the ones who saw me getting a beetle after 11pm would start bugging me to take them to the idoc, and even those who would start icqing me to take them in. Just sad really, but rather comedic.
     
  2. Cellmate

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    So you would support the notion that the actions of any one guild member thereby reflects the guild mentality as a whole?
    I've been told often by members of guilds here, including Stumpy's, that that is not the case.
    Not that posting a screenie of someone's paperdoll on your website actually proves anything...you could just as easily dragged anyone's paperdoll into that screenie for some personal reason unrelated to the incident.

    Not sure that posting that link is within the Forum ROC actually, since it leads to a direct attack on a Player and a Guild that cannot be proved.
    Maybe Stumpy could clarify that?
     
  3. Guest

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    Calling someone greedy isn't a direct attack... he isn't accusing them of scamming or anything. For example I could say your greedy for taking money from fox emporiums casino. That isn't a break of ROC.
     
  4. The screen shots can be proven as other members of the community where present when I did this.

    Are you questioning my integrity? I certainly am not childish enough to make up a story for the sake of it.

    As Petrify pointed out, I am not attacking the person, I am pointing out that their greed resulted in no one else benefiting from all of the powerscrolls I dropped at the bank.

    Did father Christmas miss your house Cellmate?
     
  5. Cellmate

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    "Their Greed"? Meaning what? Plural, as in the entire guild, or singular as in the one player you claim took the scrolls?

    You haven't answered whether you believe that actions of one guild member represents the guild as a whole, you merely slam the entire guild because of one member's alleged and unsubstantiated actions.
    And while I have no reason to doubt your story, it cannot be proven and I find it at odds with your own image as a member of a guild that does have members of somewhat dubious reputation, as you yourself have pointed out within your own Podcasts.
     
  6. The actions of this person lower my respect for them completely and the guild a notch or two. Yes you are not only judged by your actions but also by those that you associate with.

    POC have a member who's greed disadvantaged other members of the Oceania community, namely any newbies or people that don't have the funds or experience to gain power scrolls any other way.

    As to not being able to prove it, well your not right there. Other members of the community were at the bank and did witness this person take all the scrolls. The reason it was noticed was because a couple people took several scrolls and when asked to only take what they needed they put some back.

    So should those people be called upon to recall the actions of this person then I am more than sure that the FACTS as I have stated are in fact true and accurate.

    Cellmate, are you a member of POC or even better are you the greedy so and so that took all the scrolls?
     
  7. Guest

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    And while I have no reason to doubt your story, it cannot be proven and I find it at odds with your own image as a member of a guild that does have members of somewhat dubious reputation, as you yourself have pointed out within your own Podcasts.

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    So basically your taking a stab at my guild, because one of our members tried to contribute something to the community only to have it ruined by someone else and then when our member complains about it you basically say "Well someone else in your guild has done other stuff to take away from the community, why shouldn't this person be allowed to get away with it?"

    Very hypercritical.
     
  8. Tal'shiar

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    Judging on basis of whom someone knows or associates with is ridiculous.
    Yes. Pet is and has been an utter sod to the players of Oceania. BUT what hes doing now seems good. People I have talked to seem to be enjoying themselves. Apparently even a TC or two are in the guild.

    Cellmate I would not be so quick to judge on friendships and associates if I were you, especially to do with rumors that are about with what has happened outside of the game involving yourself. I won't say what they are because that is against the ROC, like what you accuse Shane of doing.
    Your vendetta against OPK and Petrify is VERY well known and because Shane has chosen to join Petrifys guild that has nothing to do with OPK, and unlike OPK is choosing to do something good for the shard, you choose to attack him. Shane has never done anything to you as far as I know, but he has apparently tried to enjoy the game for himself, by joining a guild that will further his enjoyment.

    Greed is inherent inside and outside the game, its like rich people who shop at Salvation army shops or St Vincent De Paul, just because they want to save a dollar or two. All credit to Shane for sharing the scrolls out, he didn't have to and people took advantage of his kindness. That is what he is frustrated about.
     
  9. Queen Aglaranna

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    I am a high council member of PoC, and i am not speaking on behalf of the guild as i am sure Amathist will want to say something here. But i would still like to say a few things.

    Firstly, you say you wanted to share out the powerscrolls to the new players etc. Ummm......since when is Luna the hang out for new players, i was always under the impression New Haven was. And seriously.....everyone knows that if you drop stuff on the ground then its up for grabs, especially at luna. Once you have droppped it you have no control over it unless you pick it all back up before its all taken. If you really wanted to hand them out in a fair way then you should have come up with a better way of doing it, such as donate them to your guild or whatever.

    Secondly, you want them to go to new players and be of help.......Poc is guilding new players almost everyday and we all donate to the guild and if a player needs something then we all jump to help out. I have no doubt that your powerscrolls are now helping out a lot of PoC members.

    But in my opinion i think you are just upset cos your precious powerscrolls went to help out PoC. Say whatever you want and post all the screenies you want, you will not bring PoC down.
     
  10. Guest

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    You beat me to it Queen.
    I was going to say the same thing, and that theres a huge chance that all those scrolls she picked up are going to go to anyone that needs them anyway. its etiher pick them up or let them decay... what a waste is they did. seriously man, i like you and all but this is a low blow. get the thorn out of your paw and have a logical think about it.

    "and now have them as KOS"
    wait how old are you? jeez next itll be someone took your lunch money sheesh!
     
  11. Guest

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    Judging on basis of whom someone knows or associates with is ridiculous.
    Yes. Pet is and has been an utter sod to the players of Oceania. BUT what hes doing now seems good. People I have talked to seem to be enjoying themselves. Apparently even a TC or two are in the guild.

    Cellmate I would not be so quick to judge on friendships and associates if I were you, especially to do with rumors that are about with what has happened outside of the game involving yourself. I won't say what they are because that is against the ROC, like what you accuse Shane of doing.
    Your vendetta against OPK and Petrify is VERY well known and because Shane has chosen to join Petrifys guild that has nothing to do with OPK, and unlike OPK is choosing to do something good for the shard, you choose to attack him. Shane has never done anything to you as far as I know, but he has apparently tried to enjoy the game for himself, by joining a guild that will further his enjoyment.

    Greed is inherent inside and outside the game, its like rich people who shop at Salvation army shops or St Vincent De Paul, just because they want to save a dollar or two. All credit to Shane for sharing the scrolls out, he didn't have to and people took advantage of his kindness. That is what he is frustrated about.

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    It is not as cut and dry as the ever generous Shane is making out and anyone who knows any PoC member or has ever been apart of our guild knows that. He failed to leave out the part where she explained why she was taking the scrolls and the fact that he was rude to her when confronting her to start with .....

    Yes Vixen did pick up scrolls but she did not take them all, she took what she needed and what she knew young players of our guild needed as most new members to our guild get treated generously by the guild and given armor and helped with skills and rune books and power scrolls. And this is what Vixen did with most of the power scrolls she picked up.

    Now as for the rich people who shop at salvation army comment well I can state for a fact that most members of my guild are poor and can barely scrap together 1mil myself included. I can also tell you that Vixen is a recently returned old player who had her accounts wiped out by a jerk she trusted so she is hardly rich or in the possessions of such things as power scrolls or the funds to buy them.

    And as for the vendetta against OPK being so widely known, so is the vendetta that OPK and Petrify have against PoC and myself and when Shane or Petrify can stand up and say they have done as good for the shard as any poc member then I may give a damm what they think of us or about us.

    PoC is a guild to be proud of and I am, even tonight when I asked Vixen what happened she was more concerned about it reflecting badly on the guild then she was about it being an untrue and bias attack on her.....she was willing to deguild rather then it shed a bad light on the guild even though what she did was ultimately for our new guild members and any young she helps along the way.

    When you can stand back and look at your guilds and be proud of every member and can honestly defend all there actions with true pride and Truth then feel free to cast stones at poc until then keep your put downs to yourself because it just comes off as a lame jealous attack.
     
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    And just because she asked me to as a favour as she can not post on stratics or your site shane here is a quote from Vixen
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    If u are going to accuse me of something do it where i can defend myself in person do not do it on a website that i can not make a reply to what u said that I done ,,, first off u didnt say in your lil website that I told u why i was taking them and what i wanted them for I replied to u that I was taking them for new members package that we get together for our new members that i personally didnt need them and thats when u called me greedy and cowardly disappeared, I will say this much about u I dont know your guild so I will not judge them for what u alone do ,,,,,,, its better to be ignorant in silence than to open one's mouth and leave no doubt


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  13. Guest

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    so is the vendetta that OPK and Petrify have against PoC and myself and when Shane or Petrify can stand up and say they have done as good for the shard as any poc member then I may give a damm what they think of us or about us.

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    I don't have a vendetta (hehe, my sig ^_^) against PoC. However I think certain members of the guild judge people far too quickly and are/were quite bias against me at an event for "swearing" when I said 'crap'. Sorry, but what goes around does come around.

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    When you can stand back and look at your guilds and be proud of every member and can honestly defend all there actions with true pride and Truth then feel free to cast stones at poc until then keep your put downs to yourself because it just comes off as a lame jealous attack.

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    I can do that. Why would we be jealous of PoC? I see nothing to be jealous of.

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    Yes Vixen did pick up scrolls but she did not take them all, she took what she needed and what she knew young players of our guild needed as most new members to our guild get treated generously by the guild and given armor and helped with skills and rune books and power scrolls. And this is what Vixen did with most of the power scrolls she picked up.

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    So she takes the scrolls to keep in one single guild rather than letting everyone enjoy it?

    Besides, if you want a crap load of 110 ps's... just stealth through despise in fel at the end of the spawn, I throw most of mine there. I think since I've started [1] I've given out about 30 115 ps's (no 120's because our system isn't active just yet... whoever did the spawn just rolls for powerscrolls), those 115's were mine and nobody else to. Does that make me a saint? Do I have to brag about giving stuff to my guild? I think not.
     
  14. Cellmate

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    Tal'shiar: Judging on basis of whom someone knows or associates with is ridiculous.

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    That is exactly what Shane has done here...I haven't judged anyone, he has. I asked if that was his belief, and he confirmed that it was:
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    UOPodcasting:Yes you are not only judged by your actions but also by those that you associate with.

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    So your argument would seem better addressed to Shane than me?

    It would seem from other posts to this thread that there may well be two sides to this anyway, yet only one point of view was offered in the first place.
    If, as it has been claimed, that the scrolls were taken to be distributed among new players, then where is the greed in that?
    Another comment made here would also be correct, that if you intend to distribute any items to less prosperous players, then New Haven would be a better place than Luna Bank.
    If you do ever go there, I think you'll find the guild with the highest presence among the new players is, in fact, POC.

    Oh, and I am not now, nor have ever been a member of POC.

    And, as far as the "community spirit" show lately by Petrify then if it proves to be the noble gesture it seems to be on the surface, I applaud it.

    I would add however, that Pet seems confused as to which Guild he represents currently. Perhaps time for a new siggy?
     
  15. Guest

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    so is the vendetta that OPK and Petrify have against PoC and myself and when Shane or Petrify can stand up and say they have done as good for the shard as any poc member then I may give a damm what they think of us or about us.

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    I don't have a vendetta (hehe, my sig ^_^) against PoC. However I think certain members of the guild judge people far too quickly and are/were quite bias against me at an event for "swearing" when I said 'crap'. Sorry, but what goes around does come around.

    <font color="red"> You where not judged unfairly you where warned, requested and asked to stop the fowl language before any action was taken against you. Not to mention if it was a vendetta from poc's standing point why in the world would have an OPK member taken out a prize at that very said event. Your nose is just out of joint because you did not get to participate as you were booted for your actions. </font>

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    When you can stand back and look at your guilds and be proud of every member and can honestly defend all there actions with true pride and Truth then feel free to cast stones at poc until then keep your put downs to yourself because it just comes off as a lame jealous attack.

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    I can do that. Why would we be jealous of PoC? I see nothing to be jealous of.

    <font color="red"> If there was nothing to be jealous of and you could care less about poc and its members you would stop the continued attacks at every chance you and your guild get, purely in attempts to drag poc down and some how redeem your own shady self.</font>

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    Yes Vixen did pick up scrolls but she did not take them all, she took what she needed and what she knew young players of our guild needed as most new members to our guild get treated generously by the guild and given armor and helped with skills and rune books and power scrolls. And this is what Vixen did with most of the power scrolls she picked up.

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    So she takes the scrolls to keep in one single guild rather than letting everyone enjoy it?

    Besides, if you want a crap load of 110 ps's... just stealth through despise in fel at the end of the spawn, I throw most of mine there. I think since I've started [1] I've given out about 30 115 ps's (no 120's because our system isn't active just yet... whoever did the spawn just rolls for powerscrolls), those 115's were mine and nobody else to. Does that make me a saint? Do I have to brag about giving stuff to my guild? I think not.

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    <font color="red"> No one was bragging about anything to do with the power scrolls, the facts where simply being given. Vixen and our guild where accused of being greedy when the fact is that is far from the truth, did we claim saint hood NO. Do we keep the power scrolls for our greedy littles selves NO, They are given to new guild members &amp; young players we see around new haven along with other goodies we put in newbie packs.

    And as for not bragging YOU JUST DID otherwise you had no reason to mention what you do with scrolls, not to mention your comparing two different circumstances you in all your generosity where handing them to people who participated with you to complete a spawn....Vixen is giving them to unknown new players who just need a hand and do not deserve it for any other reason then she can give it to them and wants to. Does this make her a saint...NO but it also makes her not greedy and quite generous.

    We have a right to defend ourselves when attacked especially when it is bias and unjust that is not bragging that is giving the whole story not a one sided version like which was posted on Shane's site.....it will be interesting to see if he approves comments of those who do not agree with him.
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  16. Guest

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    Just so I can get my head around all this..

    <font color="red">(1)</font> <font color="blue">A member of a guild which is known for killing players dropped a few scrolls on the ground due to the fact that they didnt want them</font>

    <font color="red">(2)</font> <font color="blue">A member of a guild which is known for helping new players took some (not all) of the scrolls off the ground to help others</font>

    From there on it turns into a face slapping event?

    Ok, I think I got it right...

    Come on team!
    If you thought the scrolls were of worth you wouldn't have put them there.

    If a player didnt need them why would they go to the trouble of taking them all?

    Putting the scrolls out for those who need them was indeed a generous gesture and needs to be recognised as such.

    I know that recently PoC have been making a huge effort to get new players to UO set up and knowing the lady in question, know that she was using this act of generosity to help others.

    <font color="blue"> At the end of the day the scrolls were put out to help players who are new or could benefit...and they have done just that!</font>

    If I had have seen the scrolls, (just like the lady in question) I too would have gone through the list of new players I know and taken the ones that could go straight to them.

    This would be my actions, not a guild directive.

    <font color="red"> Does this make PoC a greedy guild? Indeed not - a caring one perhaps. </font>
     
  17. Guest

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    Vixen is giving them to unknown new players who just need a hand and do not deserve it for any other reason then she can give it to them and wants to.

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    I haven't seen a young player in UO for months. If theirs all these "new players" everywhere - why is Oceania so dead?

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    And as for not bragging YOU JUST DID otherwise you had no reason to mention what you do with scrolls,

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    I had reason to mention, you mentioned how "generous" you were with your guild acting like nobody else does it when it's common practice im most guilds.

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    not to mention your comparing two different circumstances you in all your generosity where handing them to people who participated with you to complete a spawn...

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    [​IMG] Didn't I say they were my 115s? I've had a chest/bank with almost any 115 I get since wayyy back in OPK. In fact ALL of the 115's I've given out were from pre [1] days... so they didn't participate to get them.

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    You where not judged unfairly you where warned, requested and asked to stop the fowl language before any action was taken against you.

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    Since when is the word crap fowl language? And I wasn't specifically warned... you said something like "Okay guys cut out on the swearing". Crap isn't a swear word. You were just looking for an excuse, but that's ok. As I said, what goes around comes around.

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    If there was nothing to be jealous of and you could care less about poc and its members you would stop the continued attacks at every chance you and your guild get, purely in attempts to drag poc down and some how redeem your own shady self.

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    Hmm, yes that makes sense! Let's attack another guild to make myself more respected in the community! Of course!! why didn't I think of it earlier?

    Lets face it, your guild took all the scrolls so they could hand it out to their own guild rather than letting everyone get a fair share of it. Don't give me that new player crap.
     
  18. Cymoril

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    I have not known Enchanted Vixen long, but from what I do know of her, she is thoughtful and generous. I've never seen her display greed at all.

    I also don't think Shane is trying to fudge a story. He is retelling it how HE saw it. It's his perception of it. Not wrong, but it's one person's perception. As I have seen, Vixen's perception was different.

    Having played UO for several years, I have to say I see misunderstandings like this every day. And I do maintain that it was a misunderstanding.

    There were bits missed out all over the place, but the intent should be what matters here. Was Vixen out for all she could get? No, I see no reason to think that, based on her reply here and her actions in the past and present with regard to other things. It's perhaps the opinion of some that she was being greedy.

    A bunch of 110s on the floor at Luna bank... as Vixen was there after quite a few had gone, chances are there wasn't many good ones left. I wasn't there, so I don't know. But I see 110 PSs dumped all the time and mostly they just decay. Pet mentioned he dumps them all the time as well. The reason I mention this is only that perhaps Vixen thought they were likely not wanted by many/any others (and she may or may not have been right), but thought they may have been good for new players.

    My point is that this begun by a claim that Vixen was being greedy. As greed is determined by the intent, and her intent has been explained by the only person who would know (Vixen), I see no reason to believe anything contrary to what she has said, as it doesn't appear either of the two parties involved have lied at any time. It's simply opinion vs intent, and I think both were honest about these things.
    The rest of us can decide whether we believe she was being greedy or not. For my part, I don't.
     
  19. Guest

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    Pet mentioned he dumps them all the time as well.

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    Didn't I say despise?
     
  20. Cymoril

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    Pet mentioned he dumps them all the time as well.

    [/ QUOTE ]Didn't I say despise?

    [/ QUOTE ]Yes, I wasn't meaning to suggest otherwise. Just that you, myself and some others (possibly Vixen) don't consider they are in high demand by most people.
     
  21. Guest

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    but... you wear an apron
     
  22. The point you are all missing is I asked her NOT TOO.

    She proceeded to take them for her own greedy cause, now whether thats a noble cause or not has NOTHING to do with it.

    They were my scrolls to do with as I saw fit, not to be used by someone else for there cause regardless of its intent. Even after she stated what they were for I still didnt approve and asked her to stop.

    No I wouldn't have given them to POC regardless of there supposed intent.

    Cellmate, before you start throwing stones you might want to exit your glass house.
     
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    And as for the vendetta against OPK being so widely known, so is the vendetta that OPK and Petrify have against PoC and myself and when Shane or Petrify can stand up and say they have done as good for the shard as any poc member then I may give a damm what they think of us or about us.


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    Haha, we (OPK) don't have a vendetta against PoC. The Copper has a thing for us though, that is obvious lol ah well. You should all know by now that dying at the hands of an OPK doesn't mean we hate/dislike/etc you, its just what we do, as our guild name implies we are PLAYER KILLERS. PvP is how we find enjoyment in this game.
     
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    They were my scrolls to do with as I saw fit...

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    Sorry, but as soon as you put them on the ground, they weren't yours anymore. You were obviously trying to do a nice thing here, maybe next time you should just hand out the scrolls to people whom you think are in need of them, I dunno.

    At the end of the day tho mate, it was only a few 110s right?
     
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    You were obviously trying to do a nice thing here, maybe next time you should just hand out the scrolls to people whom you think are in need of them, I dunno.

    At the end of the day tho mate, it was only a few 110s right?

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    Ahh Sneaky you have seen through me, it was a bunch of 110's and I dropped them on the floor as I had no use for them.

    I just thought I might pull out a stick and give this board a stur.. it worked [​IMG]

    Vixen, I hope you enjoyed the scrolls [​IMG]
     
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    I just thought I might pull out a stick and give this board a stur.. it worked


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    Sure did, we havn't had this many posts in one day in.... lol how long?
     
  27. Dain69

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    The actions of this person lower my respect for them completely and the guild a notch or two. Yes you are not only judged by your actions but also by those that you associate with.


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    Tsk tsk little man, so be so quick to judge, look what guild your in.

    And for your information, i happen to 'believe' that Enchanted Vixen is a significant donator to both S^R and POC, both guilds who help out players in need a hell of alot and 'a lot' more then you.
     
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    You were obviously trying to do a nice thing here, maybe next time you should just hand out the scrolls to people whom you think are in need of them, I dunno.

    At the end of the day tho mate, it was only a few 110s right?

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    Ahh Sneaky you have seen through me, it was a bunch of 110's and I dropped them on the floor as I had no use for them.

    I just thought I might pull out a stick and give this board a stur.. it worked [​IMG]

    Vixen, I hope you enjoyed the scrolls [​IMG]

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    So basically your a liar and an idiot, who has basically nothing better to do with his time. I am sure your so very proud but what a mockery it makes of UOPODCASTING it really should just be SHANESFANTASY as it has no truth or relevance to UO or the community of UO.

    I guess thank you for at least coming clean with your real intent and showing your true colours....which were as suspected all along I may add, and proving yet again that PoC is a guild to be proud of.

    As for your KOS intent....good luck to you anyone knows you go to fel and you run the risk of being killed, the fact your missing is fel is dead and poc do not pvp so it is not like your going to kill any more then a crafter really and even they get in an out of fel these days without hindrance. SO GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
     
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    I am sure your so very proud but what a mockery it makes of UOPODCASTING it really should just be SHANESFANTASY as it has no truth or relevance to UO or the community of UO.


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    ...your kidding right? Have you ever listened to one of his podcasts? ALL it is about is UO, and while I may not always agree with what he says I enjoy listening to his shows and find them interesting and informative.

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    the fact your missing is fel is dead and poc do not pvp

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    Wrong, well about the fel being dead bit :p
     
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    I am sure your so very proud but what a mockery it makes of UOPODCASTING it really should just be SHANESFANTASY as it has no truth or relevance to UO or the community of UO.


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    ...your kidding right? Have you ever listened to one of his podcasts? ALL it is about is UO, and while I may not always agree with what he says I enjoy listening to his shows and find them interesting and informative.

    <font color="purple"> No I have not listened to his podcasts and I guess they may be UO related but obviously his blogging on the same site is not, its pure fantasy and vindictiveness. And incase you can not guess its not a site I will be recommending or tuning into. </font>

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    the fact your missing is fel is dead and poc do not pvp

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    Wrong, well about the fel being dead bit :p

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    <font color="purple"> If I was wrong you would think the pvp thread would be a bit more then a meet and greet and that pvpers would have better things to do with there time then to try and get conversation happening on a forum. I am only saying what is being shown and what is being said by other pvpers "FEL IS DEAD" </font>
     
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    Wrong, well about the fel being dead bit, [1] owns everyone and revived PvP.

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    Fixed. [​IMG]
     
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    If I was wrong you would think the pvp thread would be a bit more then a meet and greet and that pvpers would have better things to do with there time then to try and get conversation happening on a forum.

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    Why do you think there hasn't been a post there for ages? Besides 95% of Oceanis's PvPers don't post on stratics.
     
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    <font color="purple"> If I was wrong you would think the pvp thread would be a bit more then a meet and greet and that pvpers would have better things to do with there time then to try and get conversation happening on a forum. I am only saying what is being shown and what is being said by other pvpers "FEL IS DEAD" </font>

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    While you have been typing this reply I have been crashing a despise spawn, so yes you are very wrong, if fel was 'dead' nothing would ever happen there, but it does.

    Oh and your basing the fact that 'fel is dead' off a forum thread? Maybe if you actually went to fel you would know what your talking about. Just because there arn't many posts in a forum doesnt mean that the ACTUAL GAME (remember its UO we are playing, not UO Stratics Oceania PvP thread) is dead.

    But by your logic, since PvP is 'dead' based off the PvP thread, then god the other playstyles must be dead and buried since the PvP thread has hands down the highest number of posts and views (except for the doom guide which has been there for years and years) of any thread on the forum.
     
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    You all love to pick and choose what you read and reply to don't you.......did you skip over the part where I said I was also basing it on what PVPERS where crying out and complaining about and have been complaining about for months now. It may not be dead as in flat lined but heck the pulse is slow.

    Or the fact that when I asked in the pvp thread who would be attending the pvp Olympic event I got told it was dead.

    As for going to fel you would be surprised at what I do and do not do and frankly would have no clue as to my goings ons and where I do and do not go. Just because I do not pvp does not mean I do not go to fel.

    But again read what you will and reply to what your hearts desires, the fact that this thread was a sham an attention seeking effort by one of your own and supported by some of your own says it all really.
     
  35. Tal'shiar

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    This peaks my interest Amathist.
    Do you expect totally unbiased reporting from Shane? Do you expect him to state all news that you want to hear, while leaving him to suck his chest in and keep his own opinions to himself, while letting you state all of yours free of repercussion?

    If you don't like him, deal with it. He reports things as he sees them, nothing more. If he sees someone being greedy he is well within his rights to think that is greedy and call it as such. It is like you and others (myself included) calling those in OPK small minded fools who disrupted the event planning meeting. I could come out and report how at least 5 times i had PoC come in and have a go at swoops whilst i was attacking them without asking. Greedy? Definitely. Do I care? No. Do I see PoC as this almighty beacon of goodness that they seem to claim to be? Definitely not.
    These are my opinions and I have every right to share them. As Shane has his.
     
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    This peaks my interest Amathist.
    Do you expect totally unbiased reporting from Shane? Do you expect him to state all news that you want to hear, while leaving him to suck his chest in and keep his own opinions to himself, while letting you state all of yours free of repercussion?

    If you don't like him, deal with it. He reports things as he sees them, nothing more. If he sees someone being greedy he is well within his rights to think that is greedy and call it as such. It is like you and others (myself included) calling those in OPK small minded fools who disrupted the event planning meeting. I could come out and report how at least 5 times i had PoC come in and have a go at swoops whilst i was attacking them without asking. Greedy? Definitely. Do I care? No. Do I see PoC as this almighty beacon of goodness that they seem to claim to be? Definitely not.
    These are my opinions and I have every right to share them. As Shane has his.

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    I do not care what shane reports or does not report......My comment was at the TITLE being "UO PODCASTING" when in fact it is not "UO" it is "SHANES VERSION OF WHAT HE SEE'S IN UO PODCASTING" big difference.

    And as Shane has already confessed to this being a complete sham to get attention and stir the board, no he does not have a right to state his untruths (opinions) just to stir the pot with lies its called SLANDER.

    And obviously you do care about being interrupted at swoop or you would not mention it. And if they are interrupting you without even speaking to you sorry for that as its not how I behave and when I am with guild members it is not how they behave around me. However if you are spoken to and do not respond with even a greeting then fair game because for all we know you could be scripting and not even there.

    However do not feel you are the only one this happens to as it has happened to PoC people numerous times by other guilds and uo players just jumping in without so much as a hello...so you are not the only one shown lack of courtesy.

    I also know and others can tell you that if you had a problem with a guild member and reported it to me with a full account of what happened I would deal with it.

    As for poc being an almighty beacon of goodness.....hardly and we have never claimed to be, but we are fair, kind and good people and we do give to the community. And we are not saying we are the only ones who do that either but we are saying we are far from greedy or from having greedy intentions.

    And as you have your right to your opinion I have a right to mine and to defend not only my honor but the honor of the guild.

    And basically as this is an attention seeking thread by shane I will not be responding any more as I have said my piece and made it clear where poc and myself stands on this. It's now a case of believe what ever you will about us but it will not change who we are or what we do.
     
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    But again read what you will and reply to what your hearts desires, the fact that this thread was a sham an attention seeking effort by one of your own and supported by some of your own says it all really.

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    One of my own? Podcasting is in ONE, I'm in OPK...
     
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    Wrong, well about the fel being dead bit, [1] gets owned and revived PvP.

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    FIXED!
     
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    I do not care what shane reports or does not report......My comment was at the TITLE being "UO PODCASTING" when in fact it is not "UO" it is "SHANES VERSION OF WHAT HE SEE'S IN UO PODCASTING" big difference.

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    Actually, I think it's called UOPODCASTING, because he does Podcasts about UO... did that cross your mind?

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    And as Shane has already confessed to this being a complete sham to get attention and stir the board, no he does not have a right to state his untruths (opinions) just to stir the pot with lies its called SLANDER.

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    Show me where he said that. I don't see any lies, your POC person took everything when Shane asked him not to, thus greedy.

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    I also know and others can tell you that if you had a problem with a guild member and reported it to me with a full account of what happened I would deal with it.


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    Like that time I told you about something and you had a go at me rather than doing any investigating at all? Ah okay.

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    As for poc being an almighty beacon of goodness.....hardly and we have never claimed to be, but we are fair, kind and good people and we do give to the community.

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    "but we are fair, kind and good people and we do give to the community." Sorry that sounds like your trying to claim an almighty beacon of goodness to me.

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    And basically as this is an thread by shane that says bad about my guild, I can't think of anything more to say to defend it and everyone but POC or Cellmate disagrees with me I'll stop posting.

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    Fixed.
     
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    ... You killed a laggy pvmer off mount twice (who's been pvping for less than a week) and went through a moongate 1v1. Then killed him on his different character. Don't worry I have some videos that I'll post soon.
     
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    ... You killed a laggy pvmer off mount twice (who's been pvping for less than a week) and went through a moongate 1v1. Then killed him on his different character. Don't worry I have some videos that I'll post soon.

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    Killed Maelicious (3x), Septimus, Crack Attack and Sabriel's Cu (would of killed her too but she stealthed off, wise move :p).
     
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    Mael = Sept.
     
  43. Guest

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    Just wondering why you didn't respond by simply quoting your creedo:

    - "take what you can, give nothing back"

    Pirates, yeah? Arr.. [​IMG]
     
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    lols that tis true i guess, even so she still didnt take them all just what she thought could be used in the new char packs. (which btw are for <u>ANY</u> new players not people that just joined poc) there were some left on the ground that other people took. None of them got abused [​IMG]
    *shrugs* its all over and done with. the people that matter know the truth of it all the rest will probably continue to post in this thread with confused views on it all.
     
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    You were obviously trying to do a nice thing here, maybe next time you should just hand out the scrolls to people whom you think are in need of them, I dunno.

    At the end of the day tho mate, it was only a few 110s right?

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    Ahh Sneaky you have seen through me, it was a bunch of 110's and I dropped them on the floor as I had no use for them.

    I just thought I might pull out a stick and give this board a stur.. it worked [​IMG]

    Vixen, I hope you enjoyed the scrolls [​IMG]

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    OMG are you serious??? you started all this crap just to give the board a stir??? Don't you have anything better to do with your time.......seriously, rather than sitting in stratics and whinging why don't you get ingame and play, a much better use of one's time in my opinion. This forum has turned into nothing more than slanging matches, its meant to be a site for the shard to use, so players can ask questions, people can help each other out etc... If people don't have something productive to post in here than they shouldn't be posting at all.
     
  46. PazaOPK

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    You lot are the biggest bunch of babies I have ever met. That includes babies I have met/know in real life. None of them cry as much as you all day.

    Get a set and realise its a bloody game you shmucks.
     
  47. Tal'shiar

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    Firstly, your guildmates did not ever talk to me or attempt to. I asked one to refrain from what they were doing and was told where to go. Why? I do not know. As for the accusation of scripting? If i choose not to talk to someone else in the game it is my prerogative. I play alot by myself, on an unguilded character to relax. If I do not feel like talking to every Cellmate Petrify or Amathist, I dont feel like I should have to be forced to, to justify not scripting.

    Why should I tell you what they are doing? A slap on the wrist in a game means nothing. What is a kind of punishment? Banning from a hunt? Banning from a guild event? Not really what i would call a heartbreaking punishment. Its why members of other guilds do what they want, because sadly nothing can be done about their actions.

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    However do not feel you are the only one this happens to as it has happened to PoC people numerous times by other guilds and uo players just jumping in without so much as a hello...so you are not the only one shown lack of courtesy.


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    So what you are saying is that its ok for your guild to do something to me even though I haven't done it in return? I will if you want me to. I dont mind.

    As for Shanes podcasting, he calls things as he sees them. Cym said it correctly. Its his perspectives on the things. Its what all podcasts are in effect. As for the slander remark, there has been alot of that slung over the last few months by all sides and most people. Even by myself. I won't deny that. I just have a problem with self-righteous people in a game who try to make their e-peens just that little bit bigger (i wonder what the female equivalent of the e-peen is??)
    Shane has every right to say his opinions whether you agree or disagree with them, especially on his site. I disagree with some of his points, but his podcasts still make interesting listening. Especially the interviews.
     
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