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has anyone noticed change in imbuing??

Discussion in 'UHall' started by aarons6, Sep 18, 2009.

  1. aarons6

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    ok so i gmed imbuing the day before yesterday.. today im gaining skill like crazy.
    im at 104 currently.. been only about 40 minutes since i started training...

    all day yesterday i took a break, building up resources.


    maybe im just lucky??

    i defiantly wasn't gaining skill this quickly before.
     
  2. Ender

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    I'm gaining painfully slow at only 80 :/
     
  3. Lord Frodo

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    I was gaining really slow too and I switched to Exp. Small platemail Jingasa and it picked right up. 77 to 98.3 in about 4 hrs. LRC and Luck are the cheapest resources.
     
  4. aarons6

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  5. Lord Frodo

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    Exp Daggers have 40DI which weighted at 80.
    Exp. Small platemail Jingasa are mage armor weighted at 120.
     
  6. Ender

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    I don't have enough blacksmithy to craft them exceptional most of the time. :(
     
  7. Clog|Mordain

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    A good talisman and an ancient smith hammer are your best friend
     
  8. Beastmaster

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    I *think* the change we got in 60.1 is a lowering of the return of magical residue from imbued items. I don't think it will be possible to gain more residue than you put in now. As a matter of fact I don't think you'll get over half back.
     
  9. Endrik

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    Im at 109.3 and just went through about 300 residue without a single gain. Its going to be a long road to 120.
     
  10. ACB1961

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    yup
     
  11. Pawain

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    I just got 10 points from unraveling from a bag.

    I have been unraveling with my fighter because he can carry more weight he can weed out the low stuff. This is the first time he gained imbuing from unraveling. Got all 10 at once... I did not want it.
     
  12. Lord Frodo

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    Don't know what you are talking about. Exp Bow made with Ash. Yesterday gave 2, today is the same. Already tested it. The only thing I can tell changed was the Exp. Small platemail Jingasa not unraviling anymore. I have yet to see any change to the amount of residue I am getting back.
     
  13. Beastmaster

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    Reread what I typed.

    "lowering of the return of magical residue from imbued items."

    I'm not talking about the things you craft and then unravel. They are still working just fine. I'm talking about stuff with the imbued tag.
     
  14. ElRay

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    The expansion has been out what a week, and people like you are complaining its going to be a long road when you are already at 109.3. Do you not see the ignorance in your posts people. I do.
     
  15. Lord Frodo

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    I am also getting back the same from my imbues as I did before this patch.
     
  16. Sarsmi

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    It might be a whole 'nother week before they hit 120!

    I wonder if any of these people have ever tried getting taming or poisoning to legendary, lol. Maybe it's just been so long for some people to have to train any skill that they forget it's supposed to take a while. And they don't realize that imbuing, aside from gathering resources, trains fast.
     
  17. Lord Frodo

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    You got it. Here you will get a good laugh out of this. In another thread a poster said almost all skills (legendary) could be done in 2 days and 1-2 wks for a Legendary Tamer or a poisioner. I asked him how he trained a legend tamer in 2 wks. LOL
     
  18. Sarsmi

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    Good lord, I'd think cheating. Er, I mean, extreme dedication to taking uppers and playing around the clock. Unless they meant adv char token + jewels + talisman. Which gets you to legendary in five minutes lol.

    Starting from 50 to get to 120...even playing around the clock I can't see it happening in two weeks. :coco:
     
  19. Lord Frodo

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    Thought you would love that. Taming is by far the hardest and longest skill I have ever done. I am still working at it. Oh and Discord too. LOL
     
  20. Gheed

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    Bah taming was a snap. Only took me @3 years of occasional GGS... but no real effort. :fight:
     
  21. So you're telling me it's gonna take me 3 1/2 yrs to finish this skill? :pint:

    :thumbsup:

    :party:
     
  22. Sarsmi

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    Thats the thing. I got two points earlier in half an hour of imbuing training (from 95.something to 97.something). I didn't use that many resources. Maybe a three hundred MR and gems.

    What it *does* take is paying attention. I have to look at each piece of treasure loot and figure out if it's in a range I can imbue it, otherwise it gets unraveled right away. So you can't just mindlessly throw resources in a bag and get gains. Not if you do it my way.

    I honestly don't think this skill is bad to train. What is wrong with having to think about things anyways? Of course I might have it easy since my UO rule is if it stacks, save it. Which is why I have thousands of every kind of gem, and don't have to buy them to train imbuing.

    Anyways, this is my process.

    I look at an item and see what mods it already has on it. If it has 5 I have to pick one of the already existing mods to imbue (I tend to do this anyways, because even with three good or 4 moderate mods it will be too hard to imbue an extra mod). I pick things like resist if I can, since resists usually get bumped, they use MR instead of EE or relics, and it's easy to wiggle.

    Lets say I pick phys resist to bump, and it's already at 15%. My chance to imbue is telling me I will have 75% success. That is a little high for me to want to attempt, I won't get the gains I want (I try for the range of 58-65) so I check the other resists. Oh look, fire is at 10%, so I try to reimbue fire. Now my chances of imbuing are in the 60's (I'm making up all these numbers as I go along). The idea is that if you try to imbue with a brand new mod and it's too hard, try to reimbue an existing mod. If the mod is low, like a small resist bump or small damage increase or 13 luck or whatever then it will not make much of a difference from the normal numbers, but it can make enough for a decent gain versus a bad chance at a gain. Also you can then fiddle with percentages to fine tune your success chance to hit the range you want. I really try to avoid using more than 1 gem, I definitely avoid using more than one MR or EE. Other things you can do if an item only has 2 mods but they're really high is imbue a third and then fourth mod. That fourth mod is the one you want to do 10 sucessful imbues on, the third one is only to get item where the success percentages work out.

    It's just something you get a feel for after a while. You ignore certain mods because they will always cost relic fragments, or maybe you are saving your EE for powerscrolls or whatever, so you concentrate on mods that only cost MR to bump. Like shields I just normally unravel because there is only one mod that uses MR and it's too rare that I get a shield that works for my percentages.

    Wands are still working great for me. -24s and -25s are in the best range right now with a little fiddling. I can still even do higher ones. So I do LP dungeon runs to stock up on wands and intersperse those with going through bags of random middle to high-middle loot (items that usually have three mods, one of them might be very good, or a 5 mod item but they're all low etc).
     
  23. This is why I've burned through so many ingredients, and answers somebody's question as to how I've managed to burn through so much MR. My range is 45-55. I don't think I've ever gone higher than 55.8 trying for gains before I move on to the next step.

    I was just kidding about the 3 1/2 yrs though. I'm at 105 now, and spent yesterday stocking up on MR. I've got around 10k of it now to burn through this weekend while I try and get over this stomach virus I've got...
     
  24. Sarsmi

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    It is probably my imagination but it feels like if I try for 50% success its much more than half the time that I fail to imbue. And no gains off of fails means a lot of wasted ingredients. I'm just going on the fact that I ate my 120 scroll (yay!) so I can afford to have a higher success rate.

    Sorry about your tummy bug. :( I had a four 1/2 day headache last week that motrin, advil, sudafed, lots of caffeine, water, no caffeine, anything I tried would not kill. I hate feeling unwell, I'm such a big baby. :p
     
  25. I'll give the higher success rates a try today. I seem to recall though, that once I got near 57-58 or so, my gains were spread farther apart. 53-55 seems to be the sweet spot if you don't mind burning the materials.
     
  26. Endrik

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    Its taking everything I have to refrain from insulting your intelligence and personal character. Next time read what the author wrote instead of what your looking for... I was not complaining that the skill should be made easier or cheaper. Sure its been out a week and I was at 109... I was also playing about 10 hours a day. It took me an additional week to get it the rest of the way to 120. My imbuing as now 120, and gues what... IT WAS A LONG ROAD! So get off your high horse, and go troll somewhere else. If you're just out looking for ignorance... you need look no further then your own posts.