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help with my template

Discussion in 'UO Baja' started by frostbolt, Mar 19, 2009.

  1. frostbolt

    frostbolt Seasoned Veteran
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    i was thinking of
    vet-100
    animal lore-110
    taming -105
    magery-100
    spellweave-115
    necromancy-70
    meditation -100

    i could have magery at 95 and taming at 110 perhaps

    70 in necromancy will let me use lich form for extra mana regeneration and stuff, or wraith form when i wana spam word of death i believe that 115 will give me a close to 100% chance of success

    my question is whether or not this is enough taming/lore to tame and control a greater dragon or something later on

    also is there a big enough difference between spellweaving 115 and spellweaving 120 in terms of damage to make it worth saving up for a 120 scroll instead of a 115 ? i mean id probably use a 115 for now anyway cause im at my limit of 700 points...in this build and my account isnt old enough

    is it necessary to go above vet 100 since i already have magery to rez and spell weaving for dot heal and stuff thats a lot of healing on top of the bandages

    Also what kinda pet should i get, im not so sure i want a greater dragon since they are too big...are there any other pets that function nearly as well as a greater dragon but are not quite as big ? are cu sidhe any good
     
  2. SuperKen

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    Just a few pointers.

    You can control a greater dragon at 105, but with some difficulty. I'm not sure how much Animal Lore you'd also need.

    You won't be able to res your pet with magery...did you mean you wanted to keep it healed with Magery? One person very often isn't enough to keep a pet healed. Also, there will be situations where you cannot use your bandages to heal your pet; some bosses require the tamer to stand a distance away. You'll have to rely on your guildmates to help heal the pet with Magery.

    It's a strange template, but if you need to drop anything, Meditation should be the first to be dropped. You can make up for it on the suit. Keep in mind that Meditation only works in 10's, so 115 Meditation is really only as good as 110 Meditation. Each 10 points of Meditation is equal to 1 Mana Regen. Also, be aware of the Diminishing Returns rule; don't drop that Meditation too low, as it will never compensate no matter how much Mana Regen you have on your suit.

    The only pet that I've seen that works as well as a Greater Dragon is the DreadMare, which was only available for a short time. The only way you'd get one now is if you have the money to buy one (they can be very expensive) or you have a real super friend.

    However, that isn't to say that there aren't other pet combinations that are useful. Someone who knows more about Peerless and other bosses can tell you which pet combos are similarily effective. I think you're better off getting all of them so that you have a choice when the time comes.

    Happy hunting!
     
  3. Turdnugget

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    Apart from a GD and Dreadmare... get yourself a good bake kitsune, rune beetle, nightmare and cu sidhe.

    I use beetle/bake or beetle/mare for just about every situation... PvP and PvM.

    Only time I use GD or Cu sidhe, is when doing Rikktor or Shimmering Effusion due to the hard hitting + Area of Effect spells. I heal only with chivalry + veterinary.

    Drop your vet down to 90 and use Enhanced Bandages, they give you +10 in vet/healing when using those bandies.

    Taming/lore could/should stay at 105/110 as you can control just about any creature (dreadmare needs a little more).

    Just an FYI, Word of Death takes a long time to cast, and is mana intensive, is only really good when you got a decent arcane focus going on. You could deal with lowering SW down if you want...if you plan on using the Thunderstorm or whatever (The fire field one) then it needs to be a little higher, otherwise you can get away with 40 SW and have the useful spells still. Nature's Fury/Attunement/Gift of Renewel saving yourself even more points to put elsewhere.
     
  4. BardMal

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    I played a SW/tamers for along time; was never really stoked with SW abilities.

    115 vet, 120 lore, 110 taming is my main tamers' "base".

    I have him now with 65 magery = GM with items
    115 spirit speak (104 + items)
    Gm Nec
    GM meditation

    I run a lot of lmc and regen on my suit and have a ton of fun with him. 'Course I'm hanging with a group of folks who are alotta fun to play with, which helps.

    Currently I am training up some bake s. they are in the mid 80's and alotta fun to have around. I plan to attempt teaming them with a rune and or mare once they are GM'd. They gain really slowly though.
     
  5. frostbolt

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    so if i keep taming at 105 i should just get some taming rings or bracelets for when im taming something hard right? for greater taming success rate

    also as far as the equations on stratics go what does the (Skill Level Real / 240, minimum 1) <= part that says (,minium 1) supposed to mean like what do i do with it its skill divided by 240 and then what
     
  6. Turdnugget

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    http://www.uocraft.com/

    That is a good site for helpful taming calculators. Pet control/pet power/pet stable slots.

    You can keep taming at 105. Just make sure lore is high enough to have 99% control.

    You can equip taming rings when taming higher end creatures for a better chance. That'd be the best way to do it.
     
  7. frostbolt

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    Vet-100
    Animal lore-115
    Taming-105
    Magery-100
    spell weave-115
    Necromancy-75
    Meditation-90

    so hows this

    with lore at 115 i can control greater dragons at 99%

    i lost some meditation though but im sure that lich form or w/e will make up for the regen, perhaps i should move the 5 points in necromancy to vet? but then that would mean that it would take forever to get lich form off...
     
  8. SuperKen

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    You could keep an insured Bloodwood Spirit in your pack to boost your Necro. Just enough to help you get in and out of lich form if it really bothers you that much.
     
  9. frostbolt

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    well there really isnt any other place to put that 5 points since meditation only gets gains per 10 points right?
     
  10. SuperKen

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    Don't quote me on this, but don't you get more stable slots the higher your taming is? It wouldn't hurt to have 110 Taming.
     
  11. Crow

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    Vet, Lore and Taming all factor in to how many slots you have in stables.

    Exact number breakdown...dunno, maybe ask in taming section of profession forums.
     
  12. Sara Of Baja

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    I was able to find this information, but will keep looking to see if there's something more current out there.

    Stabling:
    The number of pets a character can stable is be based on the skill levels of Taming, Veterinary and Animal Lore.
    Any character can stable 2 pets, regardless of skill levels.
    between 160 and 199.9 points total, 3 pets may be stabled.
    between 200 and 239.9 points total, 4 pets may be stabled.
    at or above 240 points total, 5 pets may be stabled.
    In addition to that, bonus stable slots are granted for skill levels in Taming, Animal Lore and Veterinary at 100.0, 110.0 and 120.0. The maximum possible number of stable slots per character is 14.