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Herding : Can someone please explain this to me ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by popps, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. popps

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    I bumped into something which I cannot explain.

    Can someone ?

    The only thing I can think of is a bug.

    Alright, I was bored and so started fooling around with my Sheperd (Herding skill).

    Now : http://uo.stratics.com/php-bin/show_content.php?content=30661

    I went to Herd this http://uo.stratics.com/database/view.php?db_content=hunters&id=202


    Well, I got a message saying that "this creature cannot be herded".

    As I said, a bug ??
     
  2. Llewen

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    If you were trying to herd the hell hounds around the bane dragons they can't be tamed anymore, so they probably can't be herded...
     
  3. Tazar

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    Correct. While they share the same name, the hell-hounds by the bane-dragon spawn are totally different animals.
     
  4. LordDrago

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    perhaps:

    You can only herd creatures that you can tame, but not all tamebale creatures can be herded.

    Or:

    perhaps the hellhound was part of a spawn that cannot be tamed (like the bane spawn, or a champ spawn).

    Or:

    They changed the rules for herding hellhounds, but stratics has not yet updated a particular sentence you are looking at.

    Or:

    The Devs, in a nefarious plot against you, have hacked your hard drive, watched you begin developing a shepherd, and the latest "shard maintenance" was in actuality, the Devs quickly pushing out a server publish aimed at causing you anguish by making hellhounds tameable, but immune to herding.
     
  5. This one. :pint:
     
  6. Petra Fyde

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    Perhaps if you read the whole paragraph instead of just the first few words it might become clearer?
    This was written by someone who has extensively herded creatures of all kinds on all facets. Me.
     
  7. popps

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    Well, they are tagged Hell Hounds and Hell Hounds are tameables.

    So, they should be herdable OR, they should be made a different animal.

    By the way, from your wording, it appears that they were tameable and then this was changed.

    If that is the case, WHY was it changed ?
     
  8. popps

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    It was not Hell hounds in a champion spawn on the Felucca facet nor Oaks in Ilshenar.
    They were neither in Ilshenar nor in Tokuno.

    They were the Hellhounds by the Bane Dragon spawn in Stygian Abyss so, by the definition of what should be herdable creatures, they SHOULD HAVE BEEN herdable.

    And yet, they were not.
     
  9. Llewen

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    They aren't normal hell hounds. They have much higher hit points and hit point regeneration than a normal hell hound. A pack of five of them would have been seriously unbalanced, and the yelling and screaming would have risen to the realms of Valhalla and smitten the ears of the gods, as hammers and whatnot... :)
     
  10. Nine Dark Moons

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  11. Storm

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    they need to change the name of the ones in abyss to something a little different maybe corrupted hellhounds or whatever
     
  12. Tazar

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    Full details here - direct from a Dev.

    No - the ones by the banes are not tamable (or herdable) and were never supposed to be. If you want to herd hell-hounds - there are plenty of other places to go herd them.
     
  13. popps

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    Well, as I said, I wanted to fool around and that was the place I choose for my fun playing.........

    Other places do not interest me as much, at this one time....... we'll see in the future.
     
  14. Fink

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    Herding is far too powerful a skill to "fool around"! :eek:

    Kidding. Go have fun with it. Don't look for a list of complaints because you will find them, and that will sap the joy out of it. It is what it is, it does what it does, and it's all in how you apply it. It can be a purely fun thing, a good supporting skill, or a powerful tactical tool for both pvp and pvm. As with all things, doing some reading first should explain the basics.

    A few other exceptions to the rules listed above: the bane dragon in the Abyss is herdable. Part of the Sleeping Dragon spawn is herdable. Fire Steeds are technically herdable (an attempt is not refused) but cannot be persuaded to move. Also, the bane hell hounds can't be tamed by a necromancer with the dark wolf familiar.
     
  15. GarthGrey

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    Play the game popps, and stop trying to get over on "The Man". :gee:
     
  16. wanderer1origin

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    lol poops were you trying to use game mechanics against another player ???
    me think u got frustrated and tried to grief another player??
     
  17. Surgeries

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    I called EA...they said you nailed it on the nefarious plot thingy.

    That, and they were all talking about the ML ingredient thing (or glaringly obvious LACK THEREOF) too.

    That, too, is a plot, of which a scarily small amount is actually talked about...by the Devs...I think you know what I'm saying...but I can't say ANYTHING else...NDA...I may have said too much already. If i did, PM me.

    *Wink Wink Nudge Nudge*
     
  18. Picus at the office

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    Sadly for all the hard work the Dev team spent placeing a trojan in Popps HD, watching and waiting and hatching the plan to stop his herding plans the skill is a huge waste.

    The only slight fun one can have is herding dragons around in Destard hoping to kill some poor fool who enters, but you can only loot them in Fel. One might happen to stumble upon a group doing a harrower in the same spot and you could lead the dragons over there to lend a hand to chaos but thats really about it.
     
  19. Petra Fyde

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    Oh ye of little imagination :D