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Hey devs - more compassion dyes please

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Shelleybean, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. Shelleybean

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    Seriously, these dyes are way too cool for just a one time use. More please! :)
     
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    Agreed. These dyes are really awesome. Still haven't figured out what to use mine on. Would be great to have more, but don't think that's in the plan for the future. I could be wrong though.

    Cross shard trading is a great option, but most people have traded their dyes already. However, there are still a few that haven't, so it's worth a try.
     
  4. Adding more would skew the value of them. We want as little as possible so the dyes or items dyed are worth more in the future. from xshard trading i have 39. thats just two accs. i dont intend to use any either. many people are selling them so if you want them now or want to sell them in the future buy them now, (in bulk if possible) cause by december they'll probably go for 10m each.
     
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    Dang
     
  6. Kayne

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    Quick where are the rares traders and museum creators to complain about devaluing their beloved items.

    Jokes aside I like the rarity of them don't think we need more
     
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    actually they need to recode these dyes to be like the plant dyes..
    so many things i want to dye but cant, cause its "not made from special material" :(
     
  8. Dermott of LS

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    I'm in favor of making them a mid-high level reward-bought item in the current Clean Up system. Sure make them available, but for a price. Say 20,000 - 50,000 points per bottle or so, somewhere in that range.
     
  9. Kylie Kinslayer

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    I agree, nice dyes and hopefully will be made available again. However I fear it may be on uogamecodes for $x for x charges. I hope my fear is inaccurate tho. :)
     
  10. Sevin0oo0

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    works for me, I think they could have added those masks as well - or better yet... use the pts to get xpacs
     
  11. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    Your fear is indeed inacurate... how can you people forget that the UO item and gold brokers have anything you might want already for cheaper ?

    And UOgamecodes is definately run by people who have no clue about how to make money with UO... ?

    Buy or sell, a piece of your soul goes as well...
     
  12. Kayne

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    Either you are being especially annoying or I am misinterpreting your post but UOgamecodes is an EA owned website/store
     
  13. They can't do this either. Too many points have been spent and too many people will complain that they dont have the points buy any. myself included. There are plenty out there. if you want them, buy them. As for the plant dye coding - great idea. too many things cant be dyed. They were given out in a small number so nobody wants to give them away or sell them. Theywanted to keep it a reward for people who worked with them through the acc. migration.
     
  14. iamSnippa

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    no no no no no no no no no!
     
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    Why can't they do it? I can get 20,000 points in about 2 hours or less. I can get 100k points a day (and have gotten over that) if I want.
    Though... as I said in my last post.. No. I do not want them to make the pigments available ever again in any way, shape, or form. I like rares. ;)
     
  16. Shelleybean

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    I wouldn't mind this, even though I've spent all my points. :p I wouldn't mind seeing them part of the anti-virtue dungeon rewards though. Make it rare but possible. :heart:
     
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    How about making them doom gauntlet drops on the same level of rarity as any other doom arti. Replace the 4 crappiest Gauntlet artis with the dyes.
     
  18. Prime.

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    How about different colors?

    I WANT PINK :thumbup:
     
  19. NuSair

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    Make the craftable using some of the unused SA stuff.
     
  20. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Hmmm, yeah, that could work. Give it like a 10-15% success chance rate at GM Alchemy {with a +25 talisman} or something to keep the value up. Toss in the Essence of Persistence from the Skelle Drag Renowned Spawn, because you would indeed have to be persistent at that succes rate. :)
     
  21. Dermott of LS

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    They can't do this either. Too many points have been spent and too many people will complain that they dont have the points buy any. myself included. There are plenty out there. if you want them, buy them.

    ...

    We want as little as possible so the dyes or items dyed are worth more in the future.

    Sooo... you don't want any more because you want yours to gain in value, BUT you would complain you couldn't get any more if they were added to the Clean Up event (which even starting at zero point, 20-50k points IS obtainable, but not so easily that it would flood the market).

    The more I read about people speculating in the dyes, and I have a few myself, simply not enough to feel comfortable in using them (yet), the more I think they DO need to be added to an ingame system at least on a temporary basis.
     
  22. Meh ...
    buy or earn or find
    buy or earn or find
    buy or earn or find
    buy or earn or find ...

    yeah ... make it an alchy/tailor skill set ...
    harvest seed classes to MAKE different flavors of dye ...

    what it can be applied to ...
    Fence could use a new coat of white wash ...

    graffitti on castle brit ...
    Fayled Was here:gee:
     
  23. Do you honestly want our "reward" added in game that EVERYONE can get? People say the one use is a smack in the face, yet they want EVERYONE to be able to use them. If they didnt want them to rare they would've given us the 50 charge bottles we asked for. Thank god they didnt. And of course I want them to stay the rarity they are at because well, I do have a lot. And i honestly do not want them to be colors used just as much as any other coloring dye.
     
  24. Woodsman

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    When did EA buy ViaTech Technologies?
     
  25. reward? :lol:the awarding of an item of COMPASSION ...

    aw nuts ... I see an impossible obstacle of definition ...

    the most serious >victims< of the event that spurred the act of a gift >In/OF< compassion ...

    did not >CAN NOT< receive theirs ...

    essentially ... :lol: YOU got THEIR stuff ...

    keep it rare ...
    indeed ...
     
  26. aarons6

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    wow its amazing how greedy people are..
    "dont give out more cause then mine i saved would be worthless later"
    HAH..

    when it comes to this crap i could care less. i havent even found anything i can dye with the thing i want dyed..

    give out all colors with 50 charges.. WHO CARES..
     
  27. Dermott of LS

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    Do you honestly want our "reward" added in game that EVERYONE can get?

    YES

    And the one charge WAS too few. It made it "too awesome to use" and now it's being used by people as a commodity item... not exactly "Compassion" is it?
     
  28. Fayled - I'm almost 100% sure they will give them to those players. In fact, you can still claim them.

    Aaron - I'm not greedy. If I was greedy, I'd be all for making them available in more than we were GIVEN.

    Dermott - If you're stupid enough to not xshard trade and get more on your shard so you have enough to dye a suit then thats your issue. But I'm done arguing. They simply aren't going to implement them into the game without someone having to pay real cash for them. *shrugs* Sorry. ):
     
  29. Dermott of LS

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    It's kind of difficult to x-shard trade when you don't have characters bogging down the databases of shards you don't play. Yes, that's "my own fault", that doesn't make the idea any less valid.

    I SERIOUSLY doubt the entire purpose of the dyes were meant to be used as a commodity for rares traders and x-sharders. The colors are nice and people would like to have enough to be able to use on their suits.

    And yes, I agree with other posters, having 39 bottles you never plan on using and are only holding to gouge the market is greedy (I don't think that necessarily "bad", but it IS greedy... if I had that many I would use what I needed and hold the rest for the same purpose).

    Again, my idea is a compromise between keeping the dyes reasonably rare by making them limited time and relatively expensive in terms of game cost to obtain, BUT at the same time make enough of them reasonably achievable for people to actually feel like they can USE THEM (which is what I believe WAS the intention of their release in the first place).

    And, let's be 100% honest here, you have ZERO proof one way or the other to make the last claim you made that they will not release them without charging real money for them (and Proof = Quoted and Linked Dev Statement to that very effect).

    I can give you INGAME advantages to adding the dyes into the Clean Up system:

    - Limited time system reward
    - Consumable reward which makes sure that it is taken OUT of the game when used, thus an ingame "sink" of resources, a good portion of the purpose behind a cleanup
    - Point Range provided is attainable, but not so low that the dyes would flood the market (especially at 1 use per dye)
    - A balance that retains the commodity nature, but also offers greater availability, people will get them to use, then once the system is gone, the rarity will kick in again long term.

    Thus far, your argument against it:

    - I have a lot and don't want them to go down in value.
     
  30. *expletive deleted*

    How are they gonna give it to the peeps that got shut out?
    hmmmm ... a real riddle there ...


    and :talktothehand:PLEASE !! "stupid"? really?

    Stupid >would be< TO SELL THEM NOW ... gahhhhh!!!!*expletive deleted*

    give us some dollars for the commemorative piece of the DUMBEST foul-up EVER ...:gee:
     
  31. It isn't greedy. It's smart. I don't even care for the colors and once everyones wearing them then I won't want to. So I'm deciding to sell them. If they implement the dyes idc as long as they are different than the initial four.
     
  32. Shelleybean

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    Let me get this straight. You don't even like the dyes, yet you rushed out and made sure you had "a lot" so you could make a profit. You don't want the devs to make the dyes available another way, because you won't make as much profit. Yet we're the ones that are greedy because we like the dyes and don't even have enough to dye one suit? There's definitely greed and selfishness about, but it certainly isn't us. I like the idea of making the dyes a Doom drop or craftable. I won't even object much from buying them from uogamecodes if they do that route. I just hope they add them again.
     
  33. I like em but I agree with limited. Look at metallic dyes. Not used much. Now if they were rare, metallic would be the whats up.
     
  34. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    The OP is about people NOT CARING if its rare or not...

    Can you guys even read ?! Oh yes its true rich people always think they have to give their opinion because they are "important"...

    wth, UHALL is becoming a marketplace, and its not even free market...
     
  35. Dermott of LS

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    The greed isn't wanting them to be worth something, the greed is in not wanting anyone else to have the chance to obtain the item BECAUSE the person doesn't want a drop on the "rare value".
     
  36. Kayne

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    Woodsman I wouldn't have suggested it if I didn't already know it to be true but here you go.

    Clearly you can see the copyright notices at the bottom are EA's and also when clicking Terms Of Service you get the screen that is shown in the middle which is also clearly EA's

    [​IMG]
     
  37. Woodsman

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    The TOS stuff is probably because it's supposed to interact with your account. ViaTech is still showing up as owner of the domain and the processing service.

    I honestly wish EA would buy uogamecodes though, and just move all of that stuff into the new account system. Hell, they'd probably sell more items that way as well, but it'd be neat if they moved it into the new account system and then offered discounts for account upgrades, like if you upgraded three at once to Stygian Abyss, knock some money off, etc.
     
  38. Kayne

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    The whole website belongs to EA. I think ViaTech process the payments but thats about it. All the links point to EA. If you click Help up on the top and go to FAQ or anywhere else in the help area all the links belong to EA websites. Corporate info would go to Via if they owned the website but it goes straight to EA

    take note of the "Contact promotional store" section. Also all 3 links here go direct to EA pages.
    [​IMG]
     
  39. NuSair

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  40. Kayne

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    NuSair I have no intention of doing as you suggest purely because I am not dialing a US phone number from the UK.

    I am also not complaining about uogamecodes, infact I've purchased game time a few times, I also purchased the 6th slot and bank/housing upgrade. I'm pretty sure I also got SA from there too - though that may have been EA store I can't remember now.
    Notably if EA do not own uogamecodes why am I completely unable to find any thing other than expansions/boosters on EA Store/Origin.
     
  41. Tazar

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    Because of an exclusive agreement with ViaTech that was done years ago would be my guess...
     
  42. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    they stay hard for very long... heheh

    sorry I couldn't help myself...

    when I log in my EA account, there should be a button for all thats sold on that website... why did they do the migration for ?

    To me this is nonsense... and besides, way off topic.
     
  43. Kayne

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    Back on topic, considering the various dyes we've had over the years and now the Natural dyes do we really need the compassion dyes flooding the market. They were meant as a ONE OFF gift to say sorry for the account migration mess and lets leave them that way.
     
  44. Woodsman

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    Yes, but given how impulsive UO players when it comes to pixel crack (which is tied to the thread), they'd probably triple the sales of everything on uogamecodes if it was available in the account migration area.
     
  45. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    Thats exactly what I attempted to say earlier (even if my english syntax is terrible sometimes)...

    They have no idea how to make money out of this game... OR... someone is giving them a cut under the table to KEEP IT THAT WAY.

    This is more than palpable irony, you can actually set your finger right on the wound.

    I just made a search for various UO items... it's easier right now for me to buy gold and whatever I want (even UOgamecode items) for cheaper than on their own website !

    I mean... their website looks fine, has a professional checkout... everyone even tells me to stop trying to fight with UOgamecodes and buy my SA and HS from a broker...

    RIGHT !!! I REFUSE TO DEAL WITH THEM ! NOT A SINGLE PENNY BOTH WAYS !

    Oh and yes... a one use dye to say sorry ?! this is ridiculous... when you say sorry you do something FOR THE PEOPLE, not to enhance the rares market and feed those *censored*...
     
  46. maybe ...
    Probably better to bundle it within the game though ...

    "Impulse buying" at the Utilities Bill pay window ... never really took off ...

    >IN GAME< is when you want to tickle the urge, the impulse,
    the "I deserve a pizza slice AND a soul forge token" << impulse ...

    This message brought to you by a subsidiary of TexA-Cola ... we keep you wound up and rolling ...

    :danceb:
     
  47. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    bah you made me spit all over my keyboard...

    what was I doing with this much saliva in my mouth anyways...

    ah the joys of mercury intoxication...
     
  48. zylo

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    I have a Phoenix Red Dye on Lake Superior.

    I will trade for any Compassion Dye color on Atlantic. PM me if anyone is interested.
     
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    Last I heard these were like 1.5-2m even on Atlantic, which really isn't much all things considered. If you want some just go buy them. They were given out too freely to be very valuable, and in the current post-ToT, post-natural dye, post-metallic dye tub game, I doubt 99% of players can even spot the colors by eye.
     
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