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Hireable NPC Spellweavers?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Kylie Kinslayer, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Kylie Kinslayer

    Kylie Kinslayer Grand Inquisitor
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    They sure would be nice to have. Getting absolutely difficult to get a focus at times on one of the busiest shards around. Have heard horror stories about the "dead" shards. I would even be ok with it being a quest deal, spending ten minutes running and doing a quest is a heck of alot better than spamming in chat for an hour with no results.
     
  2. G.v.P

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    Maybe a way to purchase a LVL 5 circle, since they gave us a way for gimp tamers to rez their pets. On one side I feel like it could mess up PvP, but then again, it would still make a LVL 6 desirable and I'm sure SW would still be niche. I mean, ML is free now, right? So EA doesn't need people to buy ML. On the other side, a lot of people feel like SW is worthless without a focus. I wouldn't say it's worthless, talking about a minimum of 300 damage from a WOD, a free honor with a short cool down, 100% control humanoids followers, etc.. Hm. It should definitely be a thought for the devs, though. Either that or a redesign of the skill ;p.

    BTW Cal, I'm still waiting for party w/ instanced loot option!
     
  3. Merion

    Merion Lore Master
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    Have you tried asking in General Chat?

    I play on Drachenfels, commonly known as one of the shards with the lowest population, but if I ask nicely in general chat, 4 out of 5 times enough spellweavers are joining me to get a lvl 6 focus.
     
  4. Lorddog

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    you can focus at 0-20 skill so just stone it and call for people with no skill to focus. then put your skill back on.
     
  5. unified

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    Someone posts about problems getting circles every few weeks. I am not sure what solution can be obtained, but someone should definitely be done. None of the skills should require other players to be effective in a time when shard population is this low, and not everyone plays when most players are online.

    I agree with GvP above that the skill is not worthless without a focus, but is really depends on why you have the skill. I like Ethereal Voyage, Gift of Renewal, and Arcane Empowerment. None of them are worthwhile without a focus. And, while you can charm an Ogre Lord w/o a focus, you have a greater chance of failing w/o a focus.

    You've completed (for some) a perilous quest for even permission to use ANY of the spells, trained it up, complete two more quests to get two of the spells, taken forever and a day trying to find the spell scrolls, and now you have to depend on others to even make it worthwhile. Something's wrong with this picture. :coco:
     
  6. Merion

    Merion Lore Master
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    Last time I checked this was a multiplayer game, so there's nothing wrong with needing other players. In fact over the years they took out many things that furthered player interaction - these days I don't need a crafter to craft or repair my stuff, I don't need a tamer to ress my steed, I don't need a mage to gate somewhere, etc., etc.
    It's the wrong way, imho.

    But I agree that SW is harder to use get access to and utilize than any other skill. But I don't think changing the way it works would be a good idea. Instead they should slighty buff it (e.g. by reducing the mana cost or casting time for the spells), in order to make more people use it. Then finding a circle will be easier.
     
  7. unified

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    Apples and oranges, really. Requiring others to use a skill effectively may have been a good idea when the shards were well-populated and combat-related skills were not nerfed into being nearly useless. If so, the other skills should require the same.

    No developer took away things that furthered player interaction. The phyilosophy of "teaching a man to fish" and Mother Necessity did that.
     
  8. cumberline

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    I gave up trying to complete the quest. Too dangerous to do alone. I could not even get to the Exedos thing without being killed. Others tried to help me, but I cannot type so fast because of my disability so they gave up trying to communicate with me. After looking at the spells, it really isn't worth my while if I can't get people to form a circle. It's stupid.
     
  9. cumberline

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    This is the point being made.

    It has nothing to do with needing a crafter, tamer or mage. If you want to depend on another crafter for items, you can still do so. Want another tamer to rez your pet? Drop vet and do it. I dropped vet on my tamer for eval int and I never have a problem getting a pet rez.
     
  10. Merion

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    Of course I do not drop vet or anything, I'm as lazy as the next player, but I really cannot remember when I last talked to a player that was not in my guild for reasons other than a trade. UO was all about immersion and player interaction. That slowly eroded away.

    But back on topic, I really don't get it, I play on one of the shards with the lowest population and even at odd times people join me for a circle if I ask politely in general chat. Maybe Drachenfels just has a very helpful community, but it's hard to imagine that it's impossible to find other spellweavers on the more populated shards.
     
  11. unified

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    That's just it. Whenever someone posts about having problems getting a circle or seeking a better alternate, people come here and comment about how THEY don't have a problem. That is not the solution, and it does not negate the reality that a problem does exist, whether it is one of inconvenience or otherwise.

    The fact that you are able to get a circle could very well be that there is a helpful community on Drachenfels. It could also be luck or the fact that others know you and don't mind giving YOU a helping hand because you have been helpful to others. This is not always the case elsewhere.

    I play on Great Lakes, and sometimes it can take up to an hour for one person to show in response, depending on the time. I have played for hours at times and not even seen a request. I will respond to a request as often as I can, but sometimes it is not possible if you are otherwise engaged. That is the major problem. The only true convenient time to participate in a circle is when you are not doing something else. Other players are not always free. Even if I am available and go to the caller, I will then have to stand there and wait for others to show. Some of them will not even wait as long as a minute, and I can't wait 20 minutes, so the whole effort can fail.
     
  12. cumberline

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    When someone posts that they have a problem with something in this game, the fact that you cannot imagine it does not make it less so.

    Many treasure hunters have problems finding map locations now that they made them random. I have no problem finding the spot, but just because I can find spots does not mean that there isn't a problem finding spots. It just means that I am not having the same problem that others are having. It is simply common sense that not everyone faces the same problems as others no matter how you look at it.
     
  13. aarons6

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    i agree with mysticism being so powerfull, spellweavers are getting harder and harder to catch online for a focus.

    ive noticed in the past few weeks the same 4 or 5 people are all who come for a focus.
    used to be about 20 different spellweavers, now only 4 or 5 left?

    what happens when you cant get a focus?
    the focus thing was a bad idea.. ive invested 120 skill points and i have to depend on 4 other people to be online to get the full effect..
     
  14. weins201

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    Stone off your skill and get a non skilled focus and then stone SW back

    Yes this comes up about every other week and alwatys there are solutions for lazy players to work on but no one does and they just come back and complain again later.

    People want to use a skill designed to go along with others by themselves.

    Non of the SW skills HAVE to have a focus but a level 6 is definatly nicer than a level 2 but both work.
     
  15. weins201

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    Multiple Account?s

    Almost every player here that plays often has more than one account if you do then there is NO reason why a level 3 focus is not the minimum you can get on your own.

    Stone of you SW and whaever chars you want a focus on, main one mostly important

    Do same on other acount or not just grab another char on one of the other accounts and park him on the circle.

    Open a second game in a seperate window and put that char on the circle.

    rinse repeat until you have no more accounts avail

    cast focus.

    Wala a focus
     
  16. Dermott of LS

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    On LS, I see calls for circles all the time in General Chat, usually doesn't take too long for them to fill up either.
     
  17. cumberline

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    Re: Stone off your skill and get a non skilled focus and then stone SW back

    Before you call others lazy, be sure that you are free from laziness and free from being a hypocrite yourself:

    http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/2...eig-completed-but-minor-tweak-would-nice.html

    ... and, there is more.
     
  18. Merion

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    Re: Stone off your skill and get a non skilled focus and then stone SW back

    I know about that threat and i voted to leave them as they are. Nothing wrong with having to work for your reward.
     
  19. Mervyn

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    Had this topic lots of times before,

    My guild get level 6 focus every day, I actually think i'm a bit OP on my weaver it's so easy to get level 6 focus. The whole way the circle things works is silly, people should have to be in fairly and i use the word loosely close proximity all the time, forget the timer stuff.