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Hitting the skill Wall : Is there a way to break it ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by popps, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. popps

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    I hit a bad wall with Peacemaking. I have trained it now for like 12 hours and only got the 0.1 GGS gain, nothing else.

    Is there some way to break a skill Wall by any chance ?

    How do skill Walls show up ? What is it that triggers them ?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Tazar

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    There are five theories (that I know of) on this question.

    #1 says it is just the random number generator on a bad streak and the only thing to do is stick it out.

    #2 says that logging out, playing another character for a while, then coming back resets whatever is stuck.

    #3 says go die. Some believe that death/resurrection resets something to kick a back streak in the RNG mentioned above.

    #4 says eat. While developers have said time and again that this has no impact on anything anymore, rumors persist that it does help.

    #5 says if all else fails, check to make sure you have available skill points (something turned down if needed).

    Personally, I only believe in #1 & #5.
     
  3. JC the Builder

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    You should have definitely gained more than 0.1 in 12 hours of trying. Are you doing area peacemaking? Targeted Peacemaking is difficulty based, so if you try on a target that has 100% success you won't gain. Area Peacemaking is not and lets you gain no matter what (perhaps not in a house though).
     
  4. gunneroforgin

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    the only real way to do this is to beat on the skill wall untill it breaks.
     
  5. Storm

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    area peace is the way I have always done it and its much faster than target to me! but if you are bound and determined to do target peace try doing creatures that you have roughly 50% chance some will say 60 some will say 40 ... whatever you get the idea.. another thing you can do is use the opposition slayer instrument to lower your chances on a given group even more! this works great for things you are at the upper limit on but still want to use them... good luck
     
  6. Storm

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    BTW what skill level are you at?
     
  7. EnigmaMaitreya

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    Back in the bad old days it was said that a Death tends to Cure what Ails you.

    I 2nd Area peace.
     
  8. The only two I have ever had issues with are #1 and #5. The rest are just urban legend, and I have never ever ever run into a GGS that I can' gain faster than using smarter training.

    However, I have had bad RGN streaks before the GGS was implemented... even demonstrated in front of a GM making deadly poison potion after potion and failed some 85 times in a row and 100 skill. And of course, I have run out of available skill points.

    My advice, Popps... try something else. Obviously whatever you are doing isn't working. Peacemaking is probably the second easiest skill to max. Maybe you should try some of the things people have suggested in this post and the other posts about this same thing you started.
     
  9. Divster

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    I think all interpretations of 2,3 and 4 are simply reflections of 1 :)
     
  10. Stupid Miner

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    I predict a siege recruiter popping his head in (espousing the virtues of the RoT system)... get your mallets ready for whack-a-mole! :D

    on a more serious note if you're on LS (and i dont think you are) i think i have a peacemaking SoT you could have.
     
  11. wanderer1origin

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    worse case as u dont like to do auto peace self!! :(

    soulstone everything but gm music and peacing off and work till done.

    also have u eaten requisit scrolls??


    hopes and preys he never tries a beggar lol!! worse than taming!!!!!!!




     
  12. LadyNico

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    Go annoy a satyr.
     
  13. Back when I used to get hung up, I made runes to a bunch of locations by the server lines.
    I'd try a skill on either side, and eventually got a gain. Can't hurt to try.
     
  14. Storm

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    never thought of that ! but then again like oldman said peace is the 2nd easiest skill to gain in focus has to be easiest and i would put med 3rd

    ok actually music is in there 2 maybe tied with med or peace
     
  15. Snakeman

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    Main thing is, What is your skill at.... Have done 3 different Peacers & I have found what you are around makes a big difference even on area peace. The recalling to a diff server for awhile does help. Seen the logging in & out work occasionally but never in bard skills only on warrior training skill has this worked for me. GL
     
  16. Storm

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    yes just dont sit at luna bank and area peace I find moving through server boundries helps alot
     
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    I am doing it targeted on creatures with a Barding difficulty of about 95-100 (my peacemaking is 117.6).

    And yes, I did verify that my peacemaking skill was set to raise and not blocked nor towards down.

    I am not doing it at home but out in the wild.

    So I would be better off just peacing myself rather than any target ?
     
  18. jelinidas

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    :D

    the doors are now open...
     
  19. popps

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    Did not try a satyr yet but ate 'till full, crossed server boundary back and forth several times and died and got ressed and in 2 hours playing peacemaking today (on top of the 12 of yesterday) still no gain, not even the GGS gain today. Last was 24 hours ago and my total skill is 323.8 (so GGS should come in less than 24 hours...).

    Does anyone know of any bug related to skill setting ?

    I did check it and even changed it to locked, to down and then back up but now I am wondering whether it is possible that my skill gump shows it up while instead the system for a bug reads it as locked. Is this even possible or I am just going insane over this skill wall ?
     
  20. RichDC

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    Or, maybe its because your peacing well below your range.

    In general you need to be 20points +/- your skill level, so 95 would only be effective to 115.

    You should be finding things gm+ minimum.
     
  21. popps

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    Is that the same when peacing oneself ??

    I mean, area peacing (i.e. peacing oneself) counts for what barding difficulty ?
     
  22. RichDC

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    I dont know, i knwo when i did raise peacing i just area peaced in Jhelom farms to 120 in about 3days.
     
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    #6 (although this doesn't apply to popps cuz you're skill is already really high) but i find that eating a 110 or 115 power scroll when i'm training a skill makes me gain much faster on the lower end of things. i try to always eat a 110 or 115 power scroll even when i'm only training a skill to 100 (does that actually work or is it another urban legend?)
    and i swear by #4 - every time i hit a wall while training i eat something and 90% of the time i'll gain within 20 seconds of eating and the wall disappears.
     
  24. It may be an urban legend, but I have found the same thing (or at least think that I do). I am wondering if skill gain at current level is based on a percentage of that skills cap. For example, skill gain at 80% with 100 cap is the same as skill gain at 96% with a 120 cap. I don't think it's exactly that, but I can also "see" the difference after eating a skill scroll.
     
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    When Area peacing (peacing self), do I need to break line of sight after each area peace ?

    Like hide, move away or whatever ?

    For how long ?

    Or can I just peace self over and over and over and over, mindlessly ?
     
  26. Snakeman

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    Mindlessly - just have the creature in range - has for me for thousands of Toot's :D
     
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    By the way, area peace works on vendors and parrots :)
     
  28. Thangorodrim

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    Yes, its perfect for you.
     
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    *pops out of the hole*
     
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    It is because when you eat a Powerscroll, the difficulty % is adapted. It was introduced because the original skill gain system was based on GMed skills. It would have been next to impossible to train magery up to legendary without modifying the difficulty after eating a PS.
     
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    You mean area peace (peace self) does not check surrounding creatures difficulty ?

    As long as the area is well crowded it makes no difference area peacing around Dragons and Drakes or a bunch of cows, sheeps and birds ???
     
  32. Stupid Miner

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    *WHACK!* I Win! I Win! :danceb:
     
  33. Nine Dark Moons

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    LMAO
     
  34. EnigmaMaitreya

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    Two points on this, you can just peace yourself over and over and over

    AND

    It does not consume a usage of your instrument if nothing is around. :)

    When I raised Peacekeeping nothing was around me and I saw a steady flow of gains.