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How about a change to the "personal bless deed" system?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by ohmyGED, Feb 17, 2011.

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Do you like the idea of a new personal item bless system described below?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. ohmyGED

    ohmyGED Visitor

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    Simply put, should every character be entitled to ONE personal item bless deed? Better yet, how about a new system?

    As opposed to a 'deed' --- how about prompt in the character menu that would allow you to personal bless one item in possession of the character:

    1. A 'personal blessed item' cannot be removed from the player's possesion
    2. It would have to be maintained either in the player's paperdoll or main backpack
    3. It cannot be dropped for any reason. (bank box, ground, trade, etc.)

    This way, no one would ever lose the 'personal bless option' --- the item would stay with you unless you choose to 'unbless' it.

    Unbless by single clicking the 'personal blessed' item and target 'unbless'

    You would be allowed to only 'personal bless' one item of your choice, but it can be interchangeable. Once you have activated the 'personal bless' on an item in your possession, you cannot choose this option unless the 'personal bless' has been removed for the item. The item must be within your backpack to activate the 'personal bless' option or 'unbless' the item.


    I think it is a fairly simple implementation --- it would make a lot of people happy that did not have a chance to claim a personal bless deed, or lost it for whatever reason.


    What do you think? Let's try to make some noise and get the developer's attention on this!


    Please vote if you would like the system above (either Yes or No). Feel free to comment with opinions.
     
  2. Warpig Inc

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    Re: A list of Personal bless deeds I have

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    It should be account age on PBD at 5 years. All should be wiped and 5+ year accounts get the improved Bless. In the characters personal abilities table they have a bless item counter. Per count can bless an item. Like a Quest chain item, a blessed item can only be in backpack or on paperdoll.

    Added a veteran account has enough gold that insurance is a minor annoyance. At 10 years ,15 and so on the account characters get an addition to their bless counter. Just wanted to add this for those that can't ride an eth ostard to complain they should have what someone with 13+ years has. Not that 15 x 12 x $10 means much.

    The hell with F2P. Make it worth while for players to keep their accounts active. More the I pay why not play. Might be less of players popping in every 2 years for 6 months to be overwelmed.
     
  3. ohmyGED

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    I'm partial to the actual account age....for some new players, it could be nice to have the personal item bless option, and it would be much easier to implement in that manner with one less variable to consider.

    I would restrict it from being available on trial accounts, however.
     
  4. Uvtha

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    Siege has context menu one item bless. I don't see why other shards don't. I mean with insurance it doesn't matter in the slightest.
     
  5. ohmyGED

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    If that is the case (and sorry, i'm not siege-savvy at the slightest) --- the code is there from a technical perspectve....all development would have to do now is determine a method for identifying 'personal bless items' on a production shard, remove the tag without disrupting the item, remove all deeds from the game, and implement the code (with the hopes that nothing would break in the process).....and that means TESTING THE PROCESS.

    However, if the code is identical to what is on Siege, and there hasn't been any problems, I find it hard that it would disrupt anything. But you never know since the logic is different from a standard production shard to Siege.
     
  6. Personal bless deeds are 600 gold. Its called insurance. The system, though I think it should be removed, is item blessing.
     
  7. ohmyGED

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    Why should the 'item blessing' system be removed?
     
  8. Warpig Inc

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    Is not insurance now based off items weight? Not 600 for everything? One or three items blessed. How many times do you need to kill someone with one blessed and not insured item before you feel rich? Come on, 535gp times what?
     
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    My guild was laughing about the old days where you could insure potions and slipping a bag full into a duelers corpse.....those couple losses made my buddy BANK!!!
     
  10. phantus

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    If I remember correctly Mr Tact said we could that system if we wanted to give up insuring everything else. No reason why it shouldn't be on the regular shards. I'm sure they will sell them on the gamestore soon.
     
  11. ohmyGED

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    Ultimately, unless someone here can provide a decent rebuttal, I do not see anything other than an overall benefit to the entire player base with my proposition:


    1. Every character will have a re-usable personal item bless, for only one item at a time, that cannot be removed from the player.

    2. This personal item bless cannot be lost since the 'personal bless item' we have to remain on the character.

    3. You can easily switch what item you want to 'personal bless' with the context menu.


    Yes, I know there is an insurance system. This isn't about insurance. This about a somewhat broken system that does provide an advantage to those who participated. Why not put everyone on the same level, give all player's the same opportunity? Give the chance of reclaiming any lost personal bless deeds throughout time? Etc....

    I'm all ears. I do not see how this could be anything but beneficial to all.

    Furthermore, it could be relatively easy to implement.
     
  12. Im not saying your idea is bad. Why do you need it? Just insure it.

    Then you dont have to switch the deed around. I can insure 5 items at once. Not transfer a bless to 5 different weapons.

    I take 5 swords. Bless one insure 4. Stick them in my pack.

    You know what I mean. Sure I am blessing one... but we all travel with lots of items.
     
  13. ohmyGED

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    Understandable --- but you imagine, hypothetically, that you ran out of insurance gold....

    Extremely unlikely, but maybe not for a newer player that doesn't have more than 100k and doesn't budget accordingly.
     
  14. True. I have run out before.
     
  15. Alvinho

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    NO it was one of the pre-order gifts that have not been re-released that were a limited time only, the green soul stones were suppose to be a one time deal as well as the chargers, not only no but HELL NO!!
     
  16. MalagAste

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    Oh I know all about that..... and now every new player that is older than 30 days gets the 5 stat bonus... automatic like...

    So honestly I don't see why they don't just reset personal bless deeds and give them out to folk just like the 5 stat increase.

    And I rather like the idea that it not be a "deed" at all and just something you click on your paperdoll for.
     
  17. ohmyGED

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    I concur.

    On the grand scheme of things --- this doesn't offer a huge advantage over on another --- it just provides a nice little perk that should be available to everyone. I feel bad for those that missed out on the opportunity or lost the capability due to the item dropping on the ground or lost in an IDOC.
     
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    Literally no good reason not to have it available to everyone. Yes.
     
  19. ohmyGED

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    My only hope is that this gets attention.
     
  20. G.v.P

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    o reily? time to bless my cloak ;D

    I've mentioned it plenty of times but I lost one of my AOS bless deeds due a smithing bug UO had in which repairing items would sometimes smelt them. Was pretty teh suck.
     
  21. Uvtha

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    Yeah when it hit siege all PBDs turned to "decrative personal bless deeds" and everyone got the option via the avatar context menu.

    If you drop or destroy a blessed item, it looses its bless, so you cant mess up and lose it.
     
  22. ohmyGED

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    Are you serious?

    So this is easy:

    1. Remove personal bless deeds from the game
    2. Remove the 'personal bless' properity from all existing items
    3. Implement this code from Siege to Test Center
    4. Test to make sure nothing would break (focus on what would happen to items that are already 'personal' bless' .... not on the player, in a container, player is dead, etc.)
    5. Work out the kinks
    6. Once it is deemed "bug free" --- push it to regular production shards.

    Devs...this could be a quick and easy win that would be beneficial to all.
     
  23. phantus

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    Yea but how does it make EA any money? Would you pay 4.99 for it?
     
  24. Warpig Inc

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    It is for most insurance is nothing but a thing. The carrot would be to offer besides a 5th year, a 10th and 15th and 20th. The ideal of keeping an account active and rewarding the steadfast payers.

    My PBD loss was with the good old para gank bug. At random times even a blessed item stayed on the corpse. And by todays standards the bow wouldn't be worth looting to unravel.
     
  25. G.v.P

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    I think the general thought process was never personal bless deed a weapon, because it seemed as if disarming/arming while dying would often lead to the wep going straight to corpse. Not sure, but I never PBD weapons, or anything I'm going to switch during combat.
     
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    If you really want this system you guys could always just all come on over to siege where we already have it :D


    Almost all the players on siege use their bless on their weapon and I've never heard of nor had an issue with it myself, maybe i've just never been that unlucky with timing though.
     
  27. G.v.P

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    Hm I'm not sure, maybe it's superstition :x but I was told never to use it on something I'd be unequipping/re-equipping and I've just stuck with it like that ;p.