Seriously, those things rock. Every time I see a melee weapon without it I feel sad for them. 30 ssi whirlwind 60+ mana leech 60 life leech is unstoppable at a place like the cavern of the discarded. I was watching a necro mage try to kill the ratman boss for 10 mins invis one day. I finally couldn't take it any more. I walked over and flattened it for him. Here's what he said. Is that the best axe you've got? rofl I can melee every single monster that spawns in the henchrat spawn, plus the 3 bosses at one time in total safety with that axe. Its actually easier to kill 2 or all 3 of the bosses at the same time than separately. You guys should consider getting those 2 things in your uo lives. HPR is excellent for mages too.