I had to wait a few months, someone placed a small house at an idoc behind the keep I placed a while back on ice island Baja and it finally went idoc this week (thank you crackhead bob for the info). So I herd all the animals away, do a bunch of tracking, try to drop and replace and then see that an orc camp spawned. So I put the keep back up. Then had to wait out demolition timer and then another orc camp spawned. Then I tried to replace and got the 168 hours message (arrgh). Then I tried on another account and couldn't get it down. Then Bob showed me where to place it and that account didn't have enough money. Then I got back on the original account and got it down despite the 168 hours message. A placer I am not! Anyways, except for the nausea I'm pretty happy right now. I would probably still be arm wrasslin an orc for the spot if Bob wasn't helping me. I didn't take any pics, but we all know what castles look like anyways. Whew!