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I was scammed.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by King_Fisher, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. King_Fisher

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    Was buying Slayer Scrappers on Atl. Paid 300 mill for said scrappers. Transferred them to my home shard to give as a present. Went to remove engraving off of book. Poof! regular scrappers. When the realization dawned on me. It was too late. The guy had already packed up his Luna vendor and split. So learn from my expensive mistake, and don't buy these. Scammed.jpg Buy these without the engraving. good.jpg
     
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    Which vendor house was it?
     
  3. startle

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    300 million for anything is a huge amount of gold. Forgive me for being a bit rude here, but just how many of us here - are you thinking - can relate to this?
     
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  4. King_Fisher

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    Anyone who was scammed for any amount should be able to relate. The Gold amount isn't the point. I wanted to share my misfortune so that maybe this doesn't happen to another?
     
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  5. Lord X

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    Wow, that really sucks man. :( I kinda always thought the engraving was in yellow like if it was on a weapon, but it isnt. Good to know.
     
  6. G.v.P

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    Case in point, don't buy things that are engraved. On the flip side, expect a lot more real supers thanks to Exodus; the price should come down on the legit books, eventually.
     
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    So how can you get the words deamon slayer on the book with out the word engraved?
     
  9. Speaking the Truth

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    By having a deamon slayer property on it...
     
  10. Ashlynn_L

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    This reminds me of that old scam involving vendor item descriptions and the use of markup (and why they disabled it).
     
  11. Picus at the office

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    What a bummer, sorry buddy.

    Shame on those who would rather laugh at the misfortune of some than see the clear BS of such a scam.
     
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    That really stinks, sorry to hear that and thanks for passing the information on it forward...
     
  13. Assia Penryn

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    Thanks for passing the info forward to the community. Even if other folks can't afford 300m, the principle of the scam still remains valid to all. Please be careful out there folks!

    Please make sure to send all the details to EA so they can fix it. Someone being able to change the actual properties from one thing to another (Spider to Demon) is a huge concern for many I'm sure.
     
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  14. King_Fisher

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    Its not that they are changing the slayer property its just a realllly long engraving. It's very easy to do take a blank scrapper and an engraving pen, about 40(#'s) couple of spaces and type Demon Slayer and bam looks like a Scrapper Demon slayer. The seller was telling me his buddy put the #### on it to be able to spot it quickly in a bag of scrappers. I believed him and paid the price. So just don't buy a Scrapper that's been engraved, make the owner remove the engraving first.
     
  15. Vexxed

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    3 Things....

    1) You paid waaaaay too much for what you thought was a Spider Scrappers....

    2) You coudn't have worked that hard for your $$$ because honestly that HUGE line of #### didn't set off some warning bells? I mean come on... the text wrapping to the next line didn't occur to you? Easy come Easy go is what I was thinking reading your post.

    3) Yeah it's a bug, Yea it Sux... I don't have much patience for people that were Scammed though & even less so when it's not even a clever scam.

    LoL... I guess I am "Vexxed" today.
     
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  16. Lord X

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    That is indeed one way to put it.
     
  17. The Mule

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    Thanks for the great idea, Im sure gland not everyone reads the forums!











    *Ducks*
     
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  18. King_Fisher

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    Vexed-

    1) I paid 85mil for MR1 Spider Slayer, 75mil for Dragon Slayer and 150mil for a Demon Slayer. I apologize if you misunderstood my initial post. I posted pictures as an example. To me those are fair prices, and I would gladly pay them again for the real deal.

    2) How hard I worked for my gold is none of your business. The fact that you make such blind assumptions shows how arrogant, and rude you are. Yes, it does feel as you so eloquently put it "easy come, easy go". It is just a game and to me remains as such, I will just be more cautious next time.

    3) Define clever.


    I made this post in order to be useful to others. To avoid this happening to others. Instead of picking apart my misfortune and displaying your haughty arrogance. Why not show us these "clever scams" you seem to be so well informed of, so that we may have the benefit of not being scammed?

    You might be "Vexxed" today, but your about as vexing as a cool breeze on a hot day.
     
  19. Picus at the office

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    Was this someone you met on the boards here or was it a gen chat spammer?
     
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  20. King_Fisher

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    No no it wasn't a person I met on these boards. It was a person in General Chat on Atlantic.


    That sale on stratics was flawless and I thanked that person.
     
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  21. Picus at the office

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    Thanks for the insight, I cleaned up my other post to reflect that.
     
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  22. Petra Fyde

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    This is actually not a new scam. I remember seeing something similar posted where oriental characters were used to fill the first line.
    More experienced traders may well have looked at that long meaningless line of ### and smelled a rat, but not everyone has that experience. :( I'm sorry this has happened.
     
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  23. Vexxed

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  24. SlobberKnocker

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    sorry to hear that. had a buddy that bought a val hammer under sorta the same scam a while back.

    i dont get why some of you are trolling the guy over the gold he spent?

    unfortunately u always have to have your guard up in this game as in life.

    i always looked at these things in terms of karma. bad karma in my experience always comes back to bite you in the a...

    i have seen it over and over again in my line of business.

    best of luck in the future.
     
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  25. Cerwin Vega

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    i thought that was the fake one but now that its been explained i understand.
     
  26. Njjj

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    Thank you for warning the rest of us. Some of us see it as the unselfish act that it is.

    But...

    Let your second lesson be that no good deed goes unpunished.
     
  27. Good Grief

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    My thoughts exactly.

    Sorry you got scammed, but this was about as obvious as it gets.

    Makes me wonder how you amassed so much gold while being so ...ummm.... inexperienced.
     
  28. RaDian FlGith

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    Is it just me, or all the posts attacking the original poster -- who was simply sharing information so that the rest of us don't get scammed -- a bit old and tiresome.

    Come on, people, are you all really that jaded and obnoxious that you have to attack someone because they spent their gold on something, got scammed, and came here to warn us of a significant issue?

    Let's just pretend he paid 250,000 or 25,000... would that change the scam or the issue?

    I mean, for crying out loud... get off your high horses.

    K. Thx. Buh-bye now, buh-bye.
     
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  29. Petra Fyde

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    Hindsight is 20/20 vision. Yes there are clues, when you know what to look for - the long line of meaningless symbols, and probably the 6 properties, however it's very easy to be wise after the event.
    I commend King_Fisher for posting this warning in such a way that no Stratics rules were broken causing me to have to remove it.
    I don't think anyone else needs to demonstrate their superiority by attacking him over his misfortune.
     
  30. BeaIank

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    Thank you for the warning.
    I wasn't aware that it is possible to do such thing with the engraving tool, and could have fell for it too.

    Those prices are way out of my range, but I would be pretty mad to see the few mils I have go down the drain due to a scam.
    Thanks again for posting this.
     
  31. Harlequin

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    I've been scammed many times, so I know how it can suck.

    I applaud the OP for sharing his experience and warning others. Even with forum anonymity, not many would bother or be brave enough to publicly admit that they were tricked.

    Just a note though, Scrappers have 4 default properties and can get 3 more, so 6 properties on a Scrapper is quite believable.

    And people really do buy the good slayers for around 100 mil (or even more depending what mobs are in the latest event arc). I love and carry several "Slayer" Scrappers, and I've been trying to make or buy cheaply priced Scrappers that has Slayer combo'd with certain stats for a long time now. Sometimes it's less frustrating to actually farm enough gold to buy the perfect one; rather than farming the materials, then risk crafting a bunch of Scrappers that don't have what you want...



    Also, there were previous versions of this where instead of "#", a string of words are used to get the X Slayer to wrap to the next line. So be careful of these as well.

    Here's another one previously done for Runic Hammers:
    http://stratics.com/community/threads/warning-for-people-buying-runic-hammers.125739
     
  32. SixUnder

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    that scam still goin down. Just not right, i never understood how the game mechanics even allow the words, spider, repond, elemental, etc. to be part of the "engraved text". That sucks bad man :frown2:
     
  33. Kylie Kinslayer

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    This kind of confused me. Can anyone help me out with how Exodus is effecting super Scrappers spawning? Does he drop them or something?
     
  34. Picus of Napa

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    I think it's because you can steal the stuff needed to make them. I'm not sure if you can get everything but you can steal most of the items.
     
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  35. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Ahh, ok. I know my thief snagged some ingreds while getting the keys too. Had forgot about that, thx.
     
  36. Viper09

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    Well put. I can never understand audacity of some posters.

    Getting scammed sucks. But I would like to thank the OP for warning us. Not everyone has complete knowledge of every scam in game.
     
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  37. G.v.P

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    Your question has been answered, but I did indeed mean to say the ingredients needed to create a scrappers are found easier now, thus I believe more books will be made. It's still very hard to create a super slayer scrapper's let alone a slayer.
     
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  38. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Thanks man, am not around much these days and do not stay up to date on the pubs. Was hoping I had just not heard about him dropping them yet... I was kinda excited for a sec there. I know how many scrappers I have made (tons) and not a super yet.
     
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    Wanting to bump this, there is a pile of these fake slayer scrapper's for sale on ATL on various vendors for 70-150mil.

    BE CAREFUL! don't buy any engraved scrapper's period.
     
  40. Pinco

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    just use EC, with my UI the engrave text is in gold and you'll never be scammed :p
     
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    Just pay attention to details. UO is such a ridiculously detail oriented game these days that nobody should be fooled by a long line of text.
     
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    nothing wrong with buying engraved things, just dont buy things that are engraved with a spam across the screen such as ######################################################################## .... obviously the scammer did that to write Spider Slayer on the second line and have it line up perfectly, there really should be a limit to characters for engraving
     
  43. Tjalle

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    Or maybe make it so you canĀ“t engrave more than one line.
     
  44. Zosimus

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    Wouldn't the best and easier way to eliminate such headaches and issues is to eliminate engraving on Scrappers all together?

    That alone shouldn't take to long or be tedious for a dev to code to solve issues like these that shouldn't even exist in the first place.
     
  45. Petra Fyde

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    Maybe. But why shouldn't I name my char's scrappers if I want to.
    In Pinco's it shows up in gold - but what it also does is show up in inverted commas. Would this scam have not happened if the engraving had said "######
    Spider Slayer" ?
     
  46. Zosimus

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    Pinco's mod is for the EC client so the issue would still exist in the CC. Just eliminate it all together would be the best imo.
     
  47. Zosimus

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    I should add since UO market an economy kind of mirrors real life economies headaches as in the chaotic and scams its best to just look at it this way.

    For every outside there is an inside.