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I will pay 19.99/Month for Classic t2a Shard.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Sorren_x_gl, Jun 18, 2010.

  1. Sorren_x_gl

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    The patch with the skill locks was perfect. I also believe that was the Cleanup Britannia days where I got a bad-ass purple goatee.

    Whats needed:
    1 Account per person. 5 character slots. No real money exchange for items, gold or character perks.
    Exact clone of t2a/fall/1998 plus enhancements:
    Anti cheat system, no more scripting and speed-hacking. (If I have to install something to spy on my computers processes I don't give a **** if it gets rid of the lamers.)
    seige R-o-T skill gain for combat skills, regular for crafting.
    Super Anal Gestapo GMs (Wouldn't be the same game without 'em.)
    Hardcore siege economy (3x prices, less gold drops from monsters, cant sell to vendors.)
    No mounts -- A lot of people will slam me for this.
    No neon ****.
    No quests.

    Classic Client upgrades for new computer rigs (I haven't played in a long long time but I'm guessing a windowed client 800x600 running on a 1080p display isn't a whole lot of fun.)

    Old artwork, old animations, old sounds, old font, old music.

    Note to EA-Quit teasing me you jerks by throwing around the thoughts of classic shard. And you're not getting a penny from me UNTIL this stuff or something close to it is on a test center of some sort. Teasing me is not gonna convince me to play on your current shards, sorry not my kind of game.
     
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  3. lucitus

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    I will not pay for it!
     
  4. I won't pay for it either... raise my regular subscription costs to $20/mo and don't think it will include me either.
     
  5. slaveone

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    Ummmm......

    HELLZ NO!!!
     
  6. DHMagicMan_1

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    Some people might pay for this but not most people. It would get boring if they never added content to it. You'd have basically a new siege with more restrictions.
     
  7. RaDian FlGith

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    rolleyes:
     
  9. VinnySP

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    Count me in!:thumbup1:
     
  10. Sturdy

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  11. No mounts...no thanks.


    Oh...and I suppose I will get blamed for this thread as well. :lol:
     
  12. GarthGrey

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    Hang on, I'm going to create a brand new stratics account, and come back and claim that I"ll pay it too...brb.rolleyes:
     
  13. RaDian FlGith

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    Come on... admit it... it was you!

    Admit it, or I shall fetch... THE COMFY CHAIR!!!




    No one expects the comfy chair!
     
  14. Storm

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    Ditto/
     
  15. Viper09

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    Nope.... me either...



    and Ra you keep away from me with that comfy chair!
     
  17. Hannes Erich

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    Hi there, my old forums! Been playing Eve Online and then City of Heroes for the past three years, but got an itch to check on ol' Sosaria just now. Anyway, like most people here, I wouldn't LIKE paying $19.99 for a classic shard; but UNLIKE most people here, I'd probably come back and do it anyhow IF they got it right (see below). I don't know how much UO currently costs, but I think something like $14.99 would be much more reasonable. (Really, access to a classic shard should be bundled into the players current subscription plans, don'tcha think?)

    I'm going to go against the grain here, too, and suggest that a replica of a classic shard would be an excellent starting point; but that it WOULDN'T be sustainable (i.e. profitable) if left in a static state after that. I suspect most players who say they'd play there wouldn't actually stay there indefinitely. It's hard to swallow (it's even hard to type), but the IDEA of a permanent, never-changing slice of 1998 is probably much more attractive than the reality would be.

    I imagine there's no linking to free shards allowed here (and PMs about this will be ignored). But there was a classic shard designed by a lone programmer who always asked himself, going forward, "what would Origin have done if they'd stuck to the game's original principles?" Now, this shard's bug fixes, patches and new content were always insanely delayed because it was just one guy. But the end result was a shard both classic and fresh, at once familiar and original. It didn't feel like some mangled "alternate universe UO" like the one that exists now; it felt like Ultima. Real Ultima. Not just the way it was, but the way it should have--COULD have--ended up. Instead of visiting the official website for ideas, he visited ancient forum threads, and even original Ultima series game manuals. He even found a way to implement mounts without compromising PvP. (If I recall correctly, mounts would be forced down to normal un-mounted walking speed as soon as the rider entered combat, similar to the way travel powers work in City of Heroes.)

    I don't play free shards because I don't enjoy the unpolished feel (you get what you pay for, after all). But I find some comfort knowing that some lone programmer out there in the world, whoever he is, got classic UO right without having to perma-freeze it in a block of ice.
     
  18. Zodia

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    There is nothing "classic" about Siege-style RoT.

    RoT is the #1 reason I (and many many others) do not play on Siege.
     
  19. Metalstorm

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    You mean an extra $20 on top of what we pay for normal production shards?
    No thank you very much.

    I'm cool with 5 char slots and combat skills being harder to train.

    Please for the love of god, NO power hour.

    I do need a horse though. Back in the glory days I took pride in having a warrior with ZERO magic ability. Everywhere I went was by hoof, foot or boat. Preferably hoof. I want to relive those simple times.

    I used to crack people up with a macro that emoted *waives hands around* while saying "Cow Orc Pork!" followed by *looks confused and embarrased*
     
  20. Martyna Zmuir

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    Paying for something I won't use? I'm not the Queen! Get out. :D
     
  22. dum3886

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    It could be done like this... normal ppl i dunno the price anymore $14 a month or sumthing? but if u want access to classic shard its $19.99 total.. i.e: $6 premium.. off course first few months free so ppl can try :D..

    But yes i would pay $20 per month for an acct to play classic shard.

    been like ~10 yrs... i remember paying like $10ish back then... seeing its ~10 yrs later and its wat $14... a pack of gum has risen in prise more then that (% wise)
     
  23. Xalan Dementia

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    my opinion is this, people want a classic shard cuz they want to relive the feeling they felt when UO was young, but guess what, a classic shard wont bring back that true feeling. I wish it would but it would be something some vets would enjoy for alil while but ultimately would become yet another ghost shard. just how i feel



    oh and UO is 12.99 a month unless you buy in bulk
     
  24. Sorren_x_gl

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    You guys are cheap.

    If the devs crunch and work tons of overtime to put out a good classic shard I'm willing to pay $20 / month. I doubt it would ever be priced like that though. It would probably end up being 14.99 or whatever it is right now.

    Some R-o-t naysayers already, figured that. Hey I wouldn't mind not having it either but I wouldn't want to get banned macroing especially after waiting so long to play classic uo. Powerhour=bad mannar

    Mount whiners, yep knew that was gonna happen too (seriously do you wanna chase Mr. Connection ***** with a 17ms ping through all the levels of shame down into the woods and all the way to Skara Brae)

    Add content? Sure! The only thing I really care about is accurate swing timers, insta-hit, precasting, spell timings and damage. If by added content you mean stuff that feels like it belongs in dialbo2 or world of warcraft, no plz kthnks.
     
  25. Sorren, Did you post this to TRY to **** ppl off? You start a thread and then get some feed back, come back and call the replying posters whiniers. We don't like your idea. You had to start a new Stratics account to hide you real ID due to KNOWING this was a trolling thread. Your idea of paying more in a diminishing game, set on top of a declining economy, is simply a bad idea at best. I wish the Stratics team would lock ALL these type of threads that ppl keep starting for the simple troll factor.
     
  26. Viper09

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    We're cheap because we don't like your idea? No, sorry. It's just a matter of opinion that we don't like it. Next time though, if you're not going to like people's opinions, don't ask for it.
     
  27. Omnius

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    QFT
     
  28. Nails

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    not a chance for me.
     
  29. Splup

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    Wtf?

    Why would any sane person want ROT on classic shard :confused:
     
  30. Picus of Napa

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    I'd be happy with a extra server but I think a 25% increase is steep. The RoT and mounts would hurt it just like the lack of extra land mass. I'd be up for the whole relm, all fel with no flapping wings lagging me up and pre 16 set up.
     
  31. Lady Storm

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    The old saying "You can never go home" fits this.
    Cry all you like UO cant go backwards. What made the opening shards so much fun was the time and mentality of the players of the time. Think back 14 years ago..... where were you ? what were you doing? What was going on in the world around you? ( if you cant go back that far in time then you have no clue of what a clasic shard was like) Clasic shard would be loads of fun but for how long?? How long before some nut case yells they are dieing cause something is out of wack(HINT: Mages hell that is what started the whole ball of wax of modifying the skills. Even a few dev(past dev) have said that was the biggest mistake they did.)

    WE changed along with UO. You cant get back your past that easy. I know this for a fact. Now unless one of you EGG heads figure out how to back up time be thankfull they are thinking it over.

    AS FOR SIEGE: Siege was for the advanced player to test their skills to make it on a barren platform. PvP and pking was done but not to the extent it drove players off the bloody shard.

    As is done now... the mass exodus from all shards is complex, but to be honest many times this forum was used to force changes to the game cause of few who yelled the loudest so much that the game makers had to shut them up. So if you want the point fingers look no further then this forum for the changes to the original UO.

    ** gets off soap box**
     
  32. Viper09

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    You truly can't get the experiences we've all had "classic" days. Would I play it? sure. Would I enjoy it the very same like I did many years ago? Absolutely not. What makes those days best were all the other players that we played along with, friends, enemies, and everything in between.

    Try as they may, it's things like playing with all those cool players and the unique experiences that go along with the time we played in that they simply can't re-create. Some may come back but it will still miss something that they can't develop. It may be a classic shard but it wont feel like it use to. This reason is why I wouldn't pay extra for it, it would just be another shard with different rules. They might be awesome rules, but it wont be the same.
     
  33. Splup

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    Exactly, and gotta remember we were all 10 years younger back then and experienced things differently :)
     
  34. Demonous

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    id pay but there needs to be mounts, they've always been a part of the game
     
  35. Evlar

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    I would pay the same as the current subscription, not more.

    I would also like to see the following:

    All production shards, possibly including Siege, where there's AoS items, are made "free-to-play", with revenue coming from those who wish to "buy" items/expansions from the game store. It's working for DDO, so why not UO?

    "Classic" shards subscription based. No purchaseable items, no shard transfers. No AoS content, so no need for scripters or farmers, as the "best" item content is player created.
     
  36. phantus

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    Nah.
     
  37. Lady Storm

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    Viper09 is right.
    What made the old days so good was our fellow players. sadly they have all left for various reasons. On the bright side some are returning.

    There is 3 things id like to see to perhaps pay EA more(yes thye have to earn my $$)

    1.) Open the houseing back to 1 house per shard per account (contrary to popular ideas this will allow many to finally settle down to paying every month and even in the long run EA will make more money as players could go back to playing where their friends are without hastles.)

    2.) Put out a jewel case version (cheap makeup) of the game and sell it for 9.99$ in stores (come on we all know you dont get new players if they dont see the CD! also the 9.99 would still make $$ to boot.)

    3.) Make a small effort to promote UO. We are a classic game what makes UO so much fun and unique is our 2d anchient graphics. Where else can you loose your self in a game and forget your troubles from the RL world. (you might say but 2d is all the rage but honestly there is way too much we would loose to do it. WoW's graphics is nice but i cant see me building a house there and such, its the feel of the graphics. If i want 3d in all i do(pvp included)ill go play wow.


    $15.99 is a good cost incentive for EA. EA/Mythic you want $$ think this one over.....
     
  38. cdavbar

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    Im all for making sure our devs have funding but IM ALSO IN FAVOR of being able to pay bills too. The 12.99 im paying now plus the goverments tax of 78 cents is enough for me. With this economy ive had to close 4 accounts and just play off one account. With each account having its own purpose im now in a bind to do what i once was able to do. Raising skills again, and buying soulstones since i no longer have 20 toons to use.

    The idea of a classic shard is just that an idea. We all think differently about it and it is mostly for the memories of COMMUNITY. If we could get more of the community back we wouldnt need a classic shard to relive that experience.


    But to the OP, why dont you tell us who you really are and stop trolling. Some people have made decent threads on a CS with great imput form people all for it. But dont ask for imput then bash the people that give it to you, thats just a chicken sh** way to go about thins.
     
  39. Evlar

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    Most of those various reasons being...

    · Other games.

    · They turned UO into one of those "other" games.

    :gee:
     
  40. Fin of LS

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    I don't think so.
    First--no one is going to pay $19+ a month for a 14 year old game--and if you doubt me go look at the compitition now being developed at E3. They wont dare ask that much for a circa 2010 game-dont think EA can for this. So-the concept breaks the first rule for EA--it makes it unprofitable.
    Second, you dont address what broke UO-which was duping, a buggy game easily exploited and un-punished rogue activities --totally without penalty.

    Classic shard-yes. But let's used what we have learned in the last 14 years, not what someone's very falable memory(if they were even there ) thinks is a "cool" idea.

    The idea of starting with good to excellent content, punishable actions( you want to go red, then ugly things happen to you when you get ganked by 5 blues), safeties in place for hacking(if that is even possible) is exciting--but as all will agree it must be done right. What "right" is tends to be the essence of the debate. LOL
     
  41. LordDrago

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    i will pay 19.99/Month for the Devs to string along the classic sharders for 3 more years. :)


    JUST KIDDING!!!!! :) :)


    I do hope that a classic shard is developed provided that it can be properly done, and the resources dedicated to the current shards are not drastically effected.

    But I do not think that a rate increase will get anything done other than closing UO.
     
  42. Amren

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    Cool story, Brah!
     
  43. Babble

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    No, $20 is a bit too much for me.

    If they hire some extra EMs for the shard then maybe.