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Im hoping I can get an official response by a DEV !!!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Julifius, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. Julifius

    Julifius Guest

    Ok basically there is a guild on the shard that uses multiple piles of quest gold to cover up their potions and other items so you can not loot them unless you are in the KR client...

    Well you know in PVP running KR client is laggy on most computers and it is not a viable solution to the problem....

    I tried paging multiple times and nothing is getting done keep getting responses that does not address the issue... This is my last hope to get issue heard by someone that works with EA but I am not counting on it...

    I know chances are this might get deleted because we arent allowed to discuss exploits on the forums but this issues is extremely important and if there is a chance I can get one of the DEVs to see it and become aware its quite worth it i think...
     
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hardly an exploit. Pretty innovative solution imho.
     
  3. Julifius

    Julifius Guest

    PLEASE tell me the solution if you cant loot the gold or if you cant move the gold or drop the gold on the ground to get at the stuff you are trying to loot...
     
  4. Larisa

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    The solution isn't for you, the looter, it's to keep people from looting their bandies and pots.

    I think this will be fixed soon as toggled quest items are not supposed to be used in this manner, but it is a good way to keep your stuff from getting looted, though you're bypassing one of the penalties of PvP, you die, you loose your stuff.

    Hence the reason I have a bandie summoning tally and don't use pots [​IMG]
     
  5. Julifius

    Julifius Guest

    so tell me if this issue is beign officially fixed soon or not
     
  6. This is when you break out a script to search the container for the potion stack type and drop them into your backpack.

    A lame use of quest gold requires a lame response. [​IMG]
     
  7. MYUO

    MYUO Guest

    Maybe someone can confirm this - if you close the corpse and open it again, the item behind the quest gold could show up in front of it. Use spirit speak on the corpse may also change the sequence items are arranged. Those may worth a try. How about dropping a wooden chest full of junk on the corpse and using an axe on the chest. If the chest breaks and the junk scattered all over the corpse, the owner of the corpse may have a little problem recovering his items.
     
  8. I've seen this in use, too.

    This isn't a "good" way to do anything, it's cheating. It's a use of a current bug in the game mechanics to give the exploiter an advantage over the people around him.

    Any attempt to argue that because the game engine allows it to happen ("well, I'm allowed to carry quest items around with me, right?") is bogus whining on the part of an excuse-making cheater.

    As the game is set up now, when you die in Felucca, your bandies and pots are supposed to be lootable by those around you. When you use a buggy item to mess that up for the people around you, you're exploiting.

    Items that are toggled as 'quest' items are intended to be used as quest-specific tools. They were obviously not intended to interfere with a player's ability to loot pots or bandages off of another player corpse in Felucca.

    If the GMs are not treating these exploiters like what they are, that's unfortunate, they certainly have license to.

    Slightly offtopic... thinking about who the original poster may have been referring to? My understanding is that on one shard, Great Lakes, one could visit 116o12'N 1o45'W , as a whole group of people who appear to use this exploit can often be found near there.
     
  9. Well ... now that you all are making noise about it ... clever as it maybe ...
    the grid/list options in KR are already. .. *cough* available ...
    so ... it MAY be possible to add that functionality to the 2D interface ...

    in the mean time ...

    Best find out what OTHER unlootables may follow a "one item fix" ... quest gold in this one instance ...
    cbd comes to mind ... draped over the desirables ...

    Just saying ... might need to get a fix ... for MORE than one instance ...

    careful to avoid monkeying up ... trapped boxes ...
    just saying ...
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    This is a common mis use of the quest item function.

    It's often countered by a loot script. You get that the same place you get the insta trapped box use script. The insta cure pot script etc....

    Lots needs addressing....

    Have to go to a different sight to get your speed hack though.


    ^^^^^^^ This is sarcasm...and not my promoting these cheats. It's just what UO pvp is atm.
     
  11. Just like carrying tons of those blessed regent holders and never losing reagants when you die. But getting the sdi bonus and the ease of building a suit w/o lrc knowing you can never lose regants.

    This is not a clever use of [censored]. Its an abuse of game mechanics. Or are you ok with duping as well. As those are just abuses of the game mechanics.

    Maybe im mistaken and your actually for exploits and abuses of game mechanics.
     
  12. UltimatePower

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    You dont get a sdi bonus for using regs. That was scrapped not long after the idea was introduced.
     
  13. <blockquote><hr>

    Ok basically there is a guild on the shard that uses multiple piles of quest gold to cover up their potions and other items so you can not loot them unless you are in the KR client...

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I've never encountered this... but if potions are that big of a deal... have you tried using object handles?!?
     
  14. Julifius

    Julifius Guest

    ok looks like this needs to be explained a little bit more...

    Looting the potions are not for my gain but so they do not have them... these people are also using other exploits as well but we won't get into that... ok so the reason why I do not want them to have them is because most of their members do not have resist and you fight them for 2 hours unable to loot their ability to cure instantly... it gets frustrating...

    oh and also their trapped boxes as well... hope this helps
     
  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    you can write a ****** to loot items you can't see.
     
  16. Julifius

    Julifius Guest

    well we why should we have to cheat to fight and exploit... im sorry but I will not and our guild doesn't not do that stuff
     
  17. Guest

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    <blockquote><hr>

    well we why should we have to cheat to fight and exploit... im sorry but I will not and our guild doesn't not do that stuff

    [/ QUOTE ]

    unfortunately lack of insight by the dev team over the years has created the need to script many many things. your only other choice is to quit playing like many have.
     
  18. <blockquote><hr>

    ok looks like this needs to be explained a little bit more...

    blah blah

    [/ QUOTE ]

    So basically... you HAVENT tried object handles?
     
  19. Julifius

    Julifius Guest

    we have tried everything lol doesnt work only thing is either... cheating or running KR client
     
  20. Aaaaahhh!
    Looting the potions are not for my gain but so they do not have them ... &lt;&lt; needed that point ..

    (@ BlacK RaiN I've never encountered this... but if potions are that big of a deal... have you tried using object handles?!? ...[​IMG]
    not so much in a corpse ... eh?)
    (@ self ...cbd's would remain with the ghost ... not likely to be a replacement 'sploit )

    K... one more needed point ... given they are not likely to be "covering up" with quest marked gp ... just before they die [​IMG]

    1) which quest calls for just 6 gp of marked gold?
    adjust quest engine to mark: no less than ... mmm 5k? 10k? (creates weight ... work it out ... need quest for certainty )

    2)How are they using the hidden items? bandies I can figure ... in place macro (2D&amp;KR) ... potions? some UOAssist macro?
    (KR potions on a toolbar ...2D? don't think so ... need UOAssist user/pro to determine)

    Instead of dithering a quest ...

    Maybe "loosen the lock" in the corpse container ... from immovable ... to movable ... just not OUT of the container ...


    *shrugs*
     
  21. I dunno Fayled... I don't use it but I know that it's handy for accessing items that aren't normally accessable (such as those stuck behind a mountain
     
  22. Julifius

    Julifius Guest

    it does not work on corpses... i killed a corpser by my house and did just that to make sure... the object handles do not come up... trust me I knwo the game pretty well
     
  23. so... have you filled out a bug report?

    [​IMG]
     
  24. Julifius

    Julifius Guest

    lol plz... do they actually look at those things probably not... but if they do im sure someone else already have done it
     
  25. but you thought crying here would solve your problem?

    Why not try giving the proper channels ago...?
     
  26. Julifius

    Julifius Guest

    lol I have about other issues are they fixed nope...