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imbueing training (and if your thinking about it)

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Lorddog, Sep 13, 2009.

  1. Lorddog

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    best to start filling bags with rings and braclets - perferably 1 stone items. so that you can train the skill.

    I suppose a tailor might be able to craft items to imbue? not sure.

    i kinda wish i had saved up a few bags to train with (600 items or so)

    Lorddog
     
  2. Just buy the gargish stuff from the Jeweler right next to the soulforge.

    They're like 9gp per item and you get 10 imbues on it...
     
  3. Wulf2k

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    They sell items with mods?
     
  4. Tiberius

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    here is how I did it..

    25-35 or so

    Make plain daggers; use a regular human char with joat and a talisman.
    Imbue luck (uses a citrine). I liked to keep my chance of success around 49 or so for best gains.

    35-60

    Make gm daggers with a legendary smith but leave your arms lore off.
    This should give you a 35 damage mod. Again, do luck and adjust slider as needed to hit your sweet gain spot; mine seemed to be right around 48-49.

    60-70 make gm/arms lore daggers and do .. you guessed it luck.

    I wasted more money than I should have figuring this out as I stuck with the 25-35 plan all the way to 45 but a guildmate used this plan from 25-55 and only dropped about 150k in gem costs. I probably layed out another 100k to get to 70 and am still training in the 80s on the citrines I bought.

    If you want to avoid having to break off your training to farm crap to unravel, hunt up about 2-3 secures full of low end crap and buy about 1000 citrines.
     
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    Thanks, Tiberius! Appreciate the guide.

    -- Aislin
     
  6. Petra Fyde

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    Actually I've had rather a nice run of gains today, hardly used any residue at all.
    What I was doing, (on a uoa macro) make a skinning knife, imbue with hit dispel, unravel it. I went from 54 - 64.3 without losing residue, got through metal and gems though. I parked myself at the forge in the blacksmith shop and left the big one outside for everyone else. :)
     
  7. Troll The T Hunter

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    im kinda stuck at 23 all the magic stuff i have is to high to unravel where is the best place to get the low end magic stuff to unravel.
     
  8. Lorddog

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    anything that drops loot - i was bagging stuff from blood ellies and about half of it unraveled. (best way was to just put right into unraveling bag) this got me to skill 25 only and now i guess i have to start imbueing to gain :(
     
  9. Wakiza

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    Very nice tactic!
     
  10. Lorddog

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    does blacksmithing the knives take less gems to gain then leather hat?
    leathers take about 4 gems to be at around 55% success rate. I am at 38 skill.

    Lorddog
     
  11. Idahoan

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    nice!!
     
  12. Uvtha

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    Just so everyone knows, porlem the hunter quests give you 30 reside each, and gems. The second tier gives you 10 essence, gems and a rare gem. Haven't done a 3rd tier yet.
     
  13. Tiberius

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    yes; my method works by both adding an extra mod to the weapon (DI) and by increasing it's intensity;35DI for 36-60, and 43 DI daggers for 60-70.

    You should maintain a 1-1 ratio on gems training with my method. You should be working on exceptional non-lore made gm daggers at your level until you hit 60 then change up to an expection lore made dagger.
     
  14. Petra Fyde

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    Maybe I should have mentioned that my uoa macro only makes one item, imbues it and unravels it. There's no way I can run it afk - and 'oh my!' those guards in Ter Mur are big boys, around twice the size of the gargoyle shopkeepers.
     
  15. Freelsy

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    Petra your way rocks. I just wanted to test somthing. I started with 1 residue. Enhanced, got my skill gain, and unraveled. I had two residue now! so i did it again, unraveled, and had three!! each time i was using one residue but breaking it down into two pieces. In a sense you can have unlimited amounts of residue to train with once you get your one piece and follow this method!
     
  16. Petra Fyde

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    hehe, it is nice, but I can't take credit for coming up with it, I read it on UHall a couple of days ago.
     
  17. Tiberius

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    yea I wish I had worked the unraveling like Petra did. It would have saved me alot of farming and I have plenty of ingots.
     
  18. Petra Fyde

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    I just hit RoT :D
     
  19. Tiberius

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    congrats! when i hit I did a fly by on the forge spamming "WHOOT 70" and then promptly logged and went to bed since it was like 2 am:).
     
  20. Petra Fyde

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    hehe, I watered my plants and then logged in to Europa, I'm training it there too. At least there I was able to buy it to 40.
     
  21. Tiberius

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    i bet its goign to suck not having rot though
     
  22. Petra Fyde

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    true, I'm not doing too bad atm, I'm imbuing luck onto except platemail hiro sode. The 'weight' of the mage armor property it already has means I can imbue quite low level luck, so not too hard on ingredients. 81.1 so far. From posts I've seen I think there's a sticking point around 84. I've done the +10 scroll quest though, so that might help.
     
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    guys and gals are you having a good time with imbuing? I guess it hasn't really had time to make a big effect on the game yet. Is it interesting enough for me to renew?
     
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    On its own, no.

    If you include the fact that I'm awesome, then probably.
     
  25. Lorddog

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    Please let me know plainly as I am still guessing at your answers.

    tailoring leather caps take 4 gems to have success rate at 55% to gain.

    how many gems are you using on the gm dagger and what range of success rate are you setting it at?

    Lorddog
     
  26. Tiberius

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    I was using 1 gem per attempt all the way to 70 and was shooting for 48-64%
    success rate; pretty much whatever I could do to keep the gem to attempt ratio at 1 to 1.
     
  27. Petra Fyde

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    I switched from caps to skinning knives at 51. My char has gm tinkering, which means she didn't have to be by a forge to make and could just park next to the soulforge in the blacksmith shop and settle in to gain.
     
  28. O'siris

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    at 40 skill i only have a 28% chance of success. is this because im human and not a garg?
     
  29. O'siris

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    Also when i imbue an item and then try to unravel it, it says i cant because the magic has been weekend. what am i doing wrong?
     
  30. Tiberius

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    are you imbuing only one intensity? Are you using a 35 DI weapon?

    I am not sure about being a garg; I changed my char before training since I read somewhere that it does give you bonus when unraveling and imbuing after you hit gm. I am not sure if that applies to lower levels or not.

    I did not happen on dropping lore off and using exp daggers until I was at 45 but a guildmate followed the plan i listed above and it cost him at least 100k less in gems than it cost me to get to 55.
     
  31. O'siris

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    yeah tiberius i did take of my lore and everything and it was at only 1 intensity. but i am gaining though. so maybe ill just push threw. thanks for the response though!
     
  32. Tiberius

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    yw, you are probably still doing it alot more cheaply than I was in the beginnning; I think at one point I was using 2 residue and 5 gems before I started exploring a different method.
     
  33. Mook Chessy

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    I used Tibs method from 39 to 67.9 and it works like a champ!!
    I used 3 times as many resources before i switched!!

    Thanks tibs!! rot tonight, woot!!
     
  34. O'siris

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    yeah im cranking away at it now. using your method combined with the unraveling after everyone. So thanks for the help. went from 50 to 53 and im only down like 50 residue
     
  35. nightstalker22

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    Now that I have my own soul forge in the house, I can start training seriously.

    I imbued an item with one property, then I was going to add a second property, and it replaced the first one. Can I only add one property by the imbuing method?

    It was showing 0/5 properties, then I imbued and it was 1/5.

    I expected it to be 2/5 after the next imbue.

    I suppose then to max out at 5/5 I need to find a good item with 4/5 and imbue to 5/5? Or is there a way to keep adding instead of replacing?
     
  36. Wulf2k

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    What were the two properties?

    Some cancel each other out, to my understanding.
     
  37. Petra Fyde

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    Wulf's right, some cancel each other out. You can't put 2 area effects, 2 hit spell effects, 2 skill bonuses that are in the same grouping.
     
  38. nightstalker22

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    That's what it was. I had put 20% hit fire area on, then I tried to add 20% hit cold area. Thanks for the tip, I was starting to think imbuing isnt worth it. :)

    Someone should make a chart showing which items are grouped, so we dont waste resources cancelling properties out.

    Some groups are obvious, such as hit spells and such, but are things like spell channeling and nightsight considered to be in a group together because they are both 100% intensity? etc...

    If you have an item with 15%dci, and you want to imbue 15%hci with it, will the imbue replace the dci because they are in same group, or will it allow you to add it because the dci was already there?
     
  39. Petra Fyde

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    No, the groupings are pretty obvious, except for the skill groups.
    Slayers
    area effect
    hit spell effects.

    There's a post with skill groups on the UO players corner forum
    http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=145009

    Group 1: Archery, Peacemaking, Healing, Resist Spells, Ninjitsu, Chivalry
    Group 2: Bushido, Veterinary, Anatomy, Eval Int, Necromancy, Stealing
    Group 3: Disco, Parry, Stealth, Med, Focus, Animal Lore
    Group 4: Provo, Taming, Tactics, Spirit Speak, Wrestling
    Group 5: Magery, Musicianship, Swords, Fencing, Macing

    Basically if you can find the combination as loot, you can imbue it. Double slayers, double hit area or spell effects no longer spawn, so you can't make them either.
     
  40. nightstalker22

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    well that is very helpful...thank you.

    Now I have another question...

    Suppose I imbue a weapon with 50% hit fireball, then enchant ( myst spell ) it with hit fireball... do these properties stack, or is the cap still 50%?
     
  41. CaesarCoW

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    You can't "enchant spell" an already hit spell weapon.
     
  42. nightstalker22

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    More good info..thanks.

    Another question... :D

    Can I imbue a stack of arrows with a hit spell? If not, and I assume I cant, I want to be able to!

    I know quivers are supposed to handle that, but imbuing the arrows themselves would make them more valuable, and another consumable commodity for crafters to sell. Just limit them to 100 per stack for imbuing, anything over 100 in a stack will always fail, no matter what skill level. :)