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Instanced Corpses in Felucca

Discussion in 'UHall' started by drinkbeerallday, Dec 22, 2008.

  1. drinkbeerallday

    drinkbeerallday Visitor

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    This came in with the "Doom Publish" when the Developers added a GGS-style system for obtaining Artifacts in Doom and to allow people a chance at some loot (back then a big problem was scripters in Doom who looted good items from the Dark Father before any normal player got a chance)

    Problem is, these instances corpses were also introduced to the Felucca facet. Obviously a game mechanic like this has no place in Felucca. This needs to be addressed. Developer comments welcome.
     
  2. Viper09

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    Disregarded after I re-read my post hours later ;)
    I have no problem admitting error on my part.
    I will sum it up with "I'm on the fence and don't care either way."
     
  3. Dermott of LS

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    Actually instanced corpses go a little further back than Doom "GGS" drops (as really they do not affect artifact drops).

    Instanced corpses came in very shortly after Paragons were added to Ilshenar due to the issues of people ninja-looting the (then in demand) paragon chests.

    The idea was to reduce or remove the issue of ninja-looting (doing just enough to get looting rights, then script-looting valuable items before legit players could move them) and affected dropped loot in Doom as well.

    Yes, the change also affected Felucca, but I will 100% AGREE That this was the WRONG thing to do. The change should NOT be active on Fel or Siege rulesets. Instead the older ruleset of open looting, "turning grey" during the "right to loot" phase if you do not have rights to loot is enough.
     
  4. drinkbeerallday

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    ok, so you don't care, but it's fine, but it's not a problem. and you even stated that you were being honest on the third count, so the other 2 times you were lying? i don't get it.

    do you really have a position on this issue or are you just here to troll my thread and disagree with me for the sake of it?
     
  5. Duskofdead

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    I have no horse in this race, but saying there is no problem is not exactly "observing both sides." Sounds like picking a side, to me.
     
  6. mr.blackmage

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    That addition went a long way to greatly reducing my desire to login. It's stupid for it to be in Fel, and I don't see why any reasons have to be presented to argue my case. You go criminal for looting someone elses kill, the system worked.
     
  7. drinkbeerallday

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    I agree. mostly, it is the precedent it is setting. if we keep taking baby steps toward Trammel then what will be the distinction?

    especially now with everyone wanting a -20 mage weap, people actually are checking corpses.

    I don't even get why anyone would be against this. It is Felucca only.
     
  8. Arch Magus

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    Absolutely needs to be fixed.
    I was appalled the first time I took my thief to Felucca and tried looting corpses. I am not allowed to loot someone else's kill in Felucca? Absurd...

    It should be implemented in Felucca that, if you attempt to loot someone else's kill, you should be flagged to them. Grey/criminal , whichever.
    The message should be exactly like when a blue loots another blue,
    "Looting this corpse will turn you criminal!"

    That is the obvious fix. Please make Felucca less Carebear.
     
  9. drinkbeerallday

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    Maybe have Forensic Eval come back. I believe gives information who killed the corpse and who looted. Bring back Forensic Eval by only making people grey if the person Eval's the corpse then the people go grey to everyone on Forensic Eval's guild.

    Vague post sorry but you get the idea.
     
  10. Arch Magus

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    ????
    Maybe only outside spawns? why the hell....

    If you really want the loot, just kill the hunter and wait for corpse to turn grey?
    That's not the point man.....who would want to wait around for 2 minutes just to loot someones kill? we're talking about felucca here...

    You..just don't come into these threads anymore please? thx
     
  11. Viper09

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    Yeah, ok, that was a poor argument I acknowledge that after coming back here. That's what I get for spending a whole 15 seconds writing it. But I will keep coming into these threads, so live with it. And no reason to be an a$$, ok? thx, have a nice day.
     
  12. Arch Magus

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    Ditto. dont' dish it out if you aren't willing to take it.

    don't take it personally that I've started to become a little harsher on teh boards. blame the devs incompetence. just deal with it.
    :eek:snap:
     
  13. Viper09

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    Good line there ;)

    But anyways, revised my post since it really wasn't that great, lol. Such is the nature of re-reading, reviewing and editing.
     
  14. Cogniac

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    Although your timeline is a little off (Doom "GGS drops" were in Publish 48, which was released November 27, 2007, whereas instanced corpses were in Publish 28, which was released November 23, 2004), I wholeheartedly agree with your point: Instanced corpses should not be in Felucca. Period.
     
  15. Wenchkin

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    I don't have any objections to being fully looted anywhere in all honesty, so yeah, I'd like to see it changed to the old system. Instantised corpses don't belong in Fel, it kinda goes against the whole lawless land "oh look, we organised your corpse for you". Sorry, but if I'd wanted my kit sorted out into convenient piles, I'd have hired a butler... And he'd still be sobbing over the state of my house secures if I had...

    Wenchy
     
  16. Draxous

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    I've been bringing this issue up for years.


    It has no place in Felucca... what so ever.

    Just like Instanced dungeons, the invisible force field around private houses, auto-loot, and bene-acts (I should be able to res a guild mate if we're dueling... for example.

    We have the notoriety system in place for a reason... let us use it in Felucca at the very least.
     
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  18. drinkbeerallday

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    I wonder if they will ever fix this?