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insurance Bug everything costing 800 gold each

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Ox AO, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. Ox AO

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    If I put a new item it seems fine.

    What I have done to attempt to fix this so far:
    1. uninsured everything log out return
    2. remove all items log out and return

    This is happening with two characters.
    Any suggestions on how to fix this? other then replacing all my armor?

    Thank you
     
  2. Viper09

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  3. Ox AO

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    Some of the items that shouldn't cost 800 gold each.
    musical instruments
    one piece of blackrock
    runes not in books
    10th Anniversary sculpture

    But everything is 800 gold including mana phasing orb corgul's sash and all my armor.
     
  4. startle

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    What shard (although it shouldn't matter)? I just log'd a char on Pacific and insurance is normal... ie. 10gp to insure a firehorn and a couple of other miner items...
     
  5. DJAd

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    All seems ok here:

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  6. Mr. Smither1

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    I was fine this morning then I died in the blackthorn dungeon was rezzed by the crown agent and used my undertaker's staff. Now every item cost 800 gold to insure and these items now cost ANY of my chars on any of my accounts 800 gold to insure. I have tried uninsuring, killing myself and using the staff again but can't fine any way to put them back to the correct insurance cost. I am on Atlantic.
     
  7. DJAd

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    I would page a GM and submit a bug report then. Maybe the new "fix" has broken something?
     
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    Same here.

    Before death normal insurance prices. At death 800gp were drained for each insured item. Now all Items show the 800gp cost in item insurance menu. :eek:
     
  9. Petra Fyde

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    Not sure if this is a deliberate change, but my char died earlier, and yes, everything in his insurance menu is now 800gp.
    I recall when insurance was first introduced each item was 600gp.
     
  10. Bleak

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    We are aware of this issue and are working on a fix.
     
  11. Petra Fyde

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    Thank you Bleak - I'll endeavour not to die too often for a while :D
     
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    Wow, 800 insurance coins for blackrock on me :(
     
  13. DJAd

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    Yeah seems to happen once you die. Just hit me here also.
     
  14. Ox AO

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    Thank you
     
  15. cazador

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    Should just keep it at 800 for everything..add some risk to this game..there are people with fully blessed suits and stuff now..I say keep it at 800!


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    Thanks for noticing.
     
  17. Goodmann

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    Should be much higher than 800 gold...... When the average person has millions and millions of gold, really only 800 gold for getting killed........ Should also be higher in tram than felluca- risk versus reward
     
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  18. Felonious Monk

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    Nah seems over the top @ 800 per. No point in throwing gp like it's feed. Bring back the old algorithm.
     
  19. startle

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    That's certainly good enough for me... Thanks much for letting us know that you're on top of things, Bleak - it's a great help to all of us, just to know you're on it.... :cool:
     
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  20. cazador

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    Regular NPC Armor- 10gp
    Exceptional Crafted- 20gp
    Exceptional Crafted(Imbued 400-500 intensity)
    500 gold
    Lesser Artifact 1k
    Greater Artifact 2k
    Legendary -5k

    All artifacts should display an Artifact Rating Period..someone got lazy!
    Level 9- 1k
    Level 10-2k
    Level 11-3k
    Level 12-5k

    Simple! And it now again is worth it to pvp! One kill could net 0-50k easily and it should be! Especially with so much gold in the market..

    97% to the player
    3% to Sosarian Centralized Banking Corp "Mesannas Pocket"

    By doing that as well..1% of that they could disperse via events now! So a 2% gold sink..not excessive but will add up a lot over time..best way to fix the economy, think about it only thing certain in UO at some point is dying..how many deaths a day you think happen in UO..let's start with a small # rough estimate..

    Each Player dies 1x a day..say 5000 characters..each costs 10k a death

    That's 50m a day in insurance..so 3% goes into a sink..

    That's 1.5m a day that has been drained from the economy( now 1% of that gets back into the economy via Events,Special Mobs or whatever)

    15k gets dumped back in a day


    ...I think you get where this is going

    Removed Yearly at this rate (if 5k people play still per day and die at 10k a death lol)

    18.2 Billion Gold! < edited cause I'm dumb



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  21. Yadd of Legends

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    Whoa there, partner, reality check. I really don't think the average person has millions and millions of gold, nor do I think any of us who frequents this forum is the average player, especially those who have been playing long enough to consider a few million gold fairly insignificant. On the already hand, I already pay $5600 every time my sampire dies, and a couple thousand more each time wouldn't make or break me, even though I have less than $60 million in the bank.

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    You could just replace your gear. We do it every day on siege, and it's not a big issue. I know that concept won't fly but really, it's not much imposition. Just bless the stuff that would be too hard to replace.

    I always wished insurance had more of a downside.
     
  23. Yadd of Legends

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    I'm not disagreeing with that. I was just making sure it didn't become common belief that the average player has millions and millions of gold.


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  24. Viper09

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    I have played a long time. At best I have a few million which I can't waste on ridiculous insurance costs.
     
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  25. SlayerofBunnys

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    Oddly after reading about this earlier, my mage in training died twice but everything was nomal. Took out my main and when he died, the 800gp renew shows up in the menu. On a side note according to the journal the normal 4025 was taken out of the bank at TOD. Did not die a second time to see what the jouranl would say

    Guessing this may be due the menu lag fix.
     
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  27. Goodmann

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    The average player does have millions of gold. Maybe not 100's of millions but they have millions of gold. There can't be 100 trillion gold in circulation and no one has any gold.......... I see people all day long buy supplies,arties,resources ect and pay much more than a few million.
     
  28. Viper09

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    And I like to believe that morlocks are really the ones in control of UO...doesn't make it true though :(
     
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  29. Yadd of Legends

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    As stated earlier, I'm not saying some players don't have 500 million gold or a billion gold. I just don't believe the average player - out of the several thousand who play; who really knows how many - have that much gold. I think like in America, most of the wealth in UO is in the hands of a relatively few, the 1 percent so to speak.
     
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  30. Kojak

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    I wondered why I hadn't seen this problem ... oh, that's right, I rarely die :) :) :)
     
  31. SlayerofBunnys

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    Careful, that was my thinking until lag vs a paragon titan proved otherwise....
     
  32. DJAd

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    Looks like this is fixed now.
     
  33. TimberWolf

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    the only insurance bug I know of it this one.
    Reforg,
    Insure,
    Powder,
    Imbu.

    never uninsure the item and your 500+ intensity items cost you next to nothing to insure. Try it and compare to the cost this way..

    Reforg,
    Powder,
    Imbu,
    Insure.... the difference in repeated cost/death is staggering!
     
  34. OREOGL

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    I was told some of mine payout 15k per death in pvp. Not a big deal.

    People are lieing if they say they can't get more than a few mil in the bank