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Is anyone actually using BASILISK HIDE BREASTPLATE in a template?

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by Death Adder, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. Death Adder

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    I'm curious, given that no one had any contributions to my thread on my Basilisk Hide Breastplate suit (which is fine, I figured out a better approach all by my lonesome). Am I the only one using this item? I think it's an amazingly powerful and sweet piece -- 7 mods (including the rare All Damage Eater) plus sweet resists! And so rare, I see none for sale on my shard and only 3-4 on all shards -- I've only gotten one out of 150+ rat bosses.

    Anyways, just curious...
     
  2. Specialshoes

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    I use one and love it
     
  3. I'm using it, mostly because my resists are better in vamp form at 70/70/67/70/75 with the Basilisk Plate, vs. 70/60/70/62/75 with Rune Beetle Carapace. The 5% DCI also lets me drop to only 38% with Divine Fury. And it's also nice to wear something not everyone else has!

    I really don't notice the benefits of damage eater and the other regens from the Breastplate, but that's probably just me. I'm sure they all make a difference, but I would overall prefer the Carapace for the mana effects (which are very noticeable).
     
  4. Riply

    Riply Lore Keeper
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    Tried it for awhile and took it out of my suit. I can make better pieces with my imbuer that will fit better with the rest of my suit. But the animated tinkered legs really have some nice stats with the ssi 10 and the 10 damage increase plus some nice resists. I guese it depends on the kinda suit your putting togather and your play style really.
     
  5. Stupid Miner

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    Tried it. Then switched for a Wooden armor piece.

    It's not a very great piece unless you design your suit to make the most out of it.
    Damage Eater was nerfed. Not so useful for general circumstances anymore.
     
  6. Death Adder

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    As I said in my previous post I think it's not so great as a stand-alone piece but I do think it works great in an HPR suit.
    Can you elaborate? I didn't get mine before the change, so I'm not sure what you mean.
     
  7. Stupid Miner

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    It would work well in an HPR suit.

    I can elaborate, but I can't clarify. And it'd be pointless to try to paraphrase.

    You'll want to look up Logrus' profile and check through his list of posts. The full elaboration is in one of his posts. Read the whole thread.
     
  8. Madrid

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    Totally disagree. You can't ask for a much better armor piece than Basilisk Hide Breastplate. Better overall resists than an RBC and has 7 properties to boot. It's a good base for building any warrior/archer template suit.

    Damage Eater is still very effective.
     
  9. Stupid Miner

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    8 Stam
    8 Mana
    7 LMC
    10 DI
    9/19/10/13/17
    Woodland Chest

    Whereas the Basilisk Breastplate:
    Don't need the HPR 2, SR 2, MR 1, or the +5 dex
    Leaves: 5 DCI, 10 DI, 5 LMC 12/14/6/11/5 and 10% damage eater
     
  10. I wouldn't use it in any build.
     
  11. Death Adder

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    Not even an HPR suit? I think the dexxer suit I listed in my previous thread is pretty sick. In fact, I can't really imagine a more powerful one, as long as you don't need med or FC.
     
  12. I wouldn't, no, you can get 2 HPR on anything.
     
  13. Madrid

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    Stupid Miner although I very much respect your opinion and your knowledge you share here on the Warriors forum I find your analysis laughable.

    How do you not need Regen properties? Are you going to tell you don't wear a Conjurer's Garb either?

    To say that your template suit doesn't need the BHB properties makes no sense whatsoever. It's an added bonus..it's not going to hurt the build it can only help it.

    If your capped at 40LMC or 45 DCI I can see you stating you don't need the 5 DCI/LMC but all 3 Regeneration properties are only going to have a positive effect plus the damage eater as icing on the cake.

    Really!? That may well be the case but you sure aren't going to get 2 HPR on any piece that has 5LMC, 5 DCI, SR 2, MR 1, 5 dex and the 10% damage eater.

    You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink...

    It's all about being comfortable with your suit and template and what works for you. Different things work for different people and I respect that.

    BHB is the ideal piece in my opinion to build either an Archer suit or a sampire build but I'm certainly not going take anymore time convincing our resident experts.

    Contrary to the majority of time here on stratics I think Stupid Miner and Lord God are giving out bad advice on the BHB.
     
  14. Stupid Miner

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    Drop in a bucket.
    If I do 100 damage i leech 70 health. I regenerate all of my hit points in a couple hits.
    Same goes for Mana to a lesser degree. If i'm doing 80+ damage per hit I can keep Double Striking every hit forever. What is an extra 2 mana every 10 seconds?
    Same for Stamina.

    If I get killed by a monster, it's typically because that monster could do 150+ damage in 5 seconds or less, in which case... 2 HPR isn't going to even register, i might get... 1 hit point back in that given time span.

    ... and in case you were curious, don't need the +5 dex either since im already getting to the 150 dex cap with potions.

    What, am I going to wear two different breastplates at the same time?
    I'm assuming most people realize that this is an either/or situation, in this current case I can imbue a breastplate that is *much* more useful to me than the Basilisk Hide Breastplate.
     
  15. I haven't given out advice. I've said that I wouldn't use it. (Which was the question asked.)

    You can get HPR on pieces with (more) LMC & MR, 5 Dex & 5 DCI are available on many other pieces and not difficult to cap in the slightest. SR is a pointless mod, Eater is unreliable and weak and not worth making a suit non Med for.

    If I was building an HPR suit I would have 18 and be human for 20 so that it is a least worth calling it an HPR suit for, I would probably also be building it on a character with 120 Ninjitsu so that I could have an additional 40 from Cat/Dog Form, it could be taken even further in PvM by adding in Peace Mastery (though I wouldn't train Peace just for this) and have 68, or Provoke Mastery and be able to utilize the HP overcap for 190 HP, 20 HPR and additional constant healing for 14-16, which would also be best achieved Medably. Most people using Crystalline/Crimson/Totv have 9 HPR they don't call it an HPR suit. The OP's suit has 12 (according to his other thread)which is the equivalent of 1.2/s.

    It wouldn't work in anything I'd play. I have looked at it before. I've looked at Eater properties before. For me it isn't worth building a suit around.

    Idk when or why people started calling me an expert on dexxers, (or insinuating that I think I am), I can play them as can anyone, but mainly I play casters.

    You may find it useful but thats no reason to be offended if others don't agree.
     
  16. Riply

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    Awesome piece of woodland armour thier congratz.
     
  17. Death Adder

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    It's 14 now.

    BTW, does anyone know a way to cap out HPR at 18 w/o shield or wooden weapon and still hit the caps on HCI/DCI/DI/LMC/MR/Stam ("caps" meaning 60+ DCI and 70+ DI)?
     
  18. Nematode

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    Actually, giving my 2 cents worth, the BHB is a nice piece of equipment in and by itself.

    However, taking into context the overall contribution it can make to a complete sampire build, I think an imbued woodland piece would inherently be better.

    The regenerative capabilities, as pointed out by Miner, though generous, wont save you in a pinch like, say, a leech or a heal/stam pot, can.

    Imagine you are already redlined when attacking a mob; would you continue hitting it, hoping your regen can save you, or would you run and heal up? I'd run for sure.

    Alternatively, if I have leech/pot capabilities, I do have a valid consideration for that "1-more-hit/chug-and-hope-to-stay-in-fight" scenario.

    Of course, if you wanna play the "Look! I can regen more than you in 20 secs!", you'd win ^^.

    These are my opinion, as requested by the OP. Ultimately, its still up to one's preference. Ive already sloughed off most of my arties in favour of imbued stuff, whereas I know others who swear by theirs. Oh well!

    While we are at this,

     
  19. Stupid Miner

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    Plain Saw Plain Wood. Powdered up to 255/255
    Then Imbued.
    Then enhanced with heartwood.

    ... it's spendy.
     
  20. Death Adder

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    I wouldn't either, as the HPR is entirely incidental and just comes along with mods they are really looking for. I consider an HPR suit armor that is intended to max out the mod. But now that you've pointed it out I do think it's kind of lame that some mages basically get half an HPR suit without trying or wanting it. It would be like my dexxer suit getting an unneeded 50 LRC or 1/3 casting off of pieces that no mage would consider.
     
  21. Death Adder

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    I agree that the BHB would be non-optimal for a PvM sampire with mad leeches and hitting for huge damage. For a PvP template it's much more effective.

    You don't need a runic. Dragon Armor has base 3 in fire and red scales add 10. So you can hit 24 if you get 11 of the exceptional bonus points into fire, which is pretty rare but possible. I made a bunch of red dragon armor a while back and got a few pieces that high. One cool thing about imbuing dragon armor is that you can eliminate the -3 penalty to one resist by imbuing that resist (which will default to the original 3 resist instead of 0).