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Is it time to finally call it "closing time"?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by S_S, Jan 23, 2015.

  1. S_S

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    I've been playing almost 14 years, just a few more months and my acct can finally use shard shields.

    Yet each day I find it more a chore to want to log in and play UO. I find no fun in the simple things I used to love doing in game.
    One of the things I still occasionally enjoyed were EM Events.
    Now today I read that Mesanna herself is allowing multiboxing? Really?! Oh well.

    I just might not make it to those long awaited shard shields after all. :(
     
  2. Capt. Lucky

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    Do what I do. Play for a few years, get totally sick of it, give everything away. Come back a year or two later. Enjoy the Hell outta it, deeply regret having given everything away.
     
  3. S_S

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    I wouldn't come back. The game I once loved is long gone.

    When I look at UO now is sums up to dupers, scripters, multiboxers and daily grinds. Gee, what fun?
     
  4. Captn Norrington

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    We would all miss you to much if you left :( UO needs all the wonderful people it can get.
     
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  5. Capt. Lucky

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    Yeah I said that several times when I gave everything away. The thing is there's nothing like UO out there. I've felt the exact same way about several issues through out the years, but I'm back, lol. Anyway good luck with that :)
     
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  6. MalagAste

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    I ask myself the same thing month after month. ... do I stay or do I go? I then weigh if I'm getting my money's worth and at 9 accounts that I maintain and pay for all the time not just one and roulette the others very 3 months thats a good chunk of change. ... and then I think ... of my friends. .. I guess that's why I am still here... but the things I once enjoyed in the game are being ruined and spoiled by greed and bad apples... pushing more and more of my friends away from the game. .. so now I spend more time alone and less time with friends.... that scale is tipping. .. more and more every day. ..
     
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    Frankly, cheaters are only a major concern if you're competing with them. Don't compete with them. Set you own goals. Play your own game.
     
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    There are many of us stuck in limbo. The chief reason is to hold onto houses, I would imagine, and to show off things.

    I realize EM reward distribution is never going to be an easy thing to control. I do, however, think there will always be a way for EMs to beat multiboxing (to the extent of playing on one screen, at least). For example, you could spread out the spawn in a large dungeon, which should prevent one person from getting everything as easily. I'm not sure.

    I would wager a house and a handful of friends make UO well worth its monthly...even with VAT included, but it's close ;P. I, however, fondly sit on top of all I own like a stupid dragon, and am perhaps a poor judge.
     
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  9. Dixie chessy/legends

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    even if you give up UO today youll be back.....you can say you wont, u can even mean it, but there will come a day when youll hear a sound bite from uo or a name that takes you back and it will eat you up inside until you open the acct back up and play...........if you get rid of your stuff you will regret it "take my word on this" just pay your account up for 6 months and forget about it until then. your acct will continue to age and ur shields will be there when u have a uo flare up lol..........trust me everyone comes back to uo. darn game is worse than nicotine LOL
     
  10. Tanivar

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    I left a couple years back abandoning tons of resources and deco at the house after twelve years. Now I'm back as of eleven days ago and kicking myself each day so far for abandoning so much 'because I wouldn't be back to this *bleep!* game!'

    Take the time to bank everything you can if you do close your accounts, this game gets in your blood, you'll wander back eventually.
     
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    https://stratics.com/community/threads/multi-boxing.331822/
    Lady Mesanna never said multi- boxing was, she said multi-clients was legal there was no mention of multi -boxing except in the OPS title, and the guys questioned. So please don't quit I think there is just a misunderstanding here.
     
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    Lol, I deliberately did not bank anything so it would all be lost and I wouldn't be tempted to come back. Fortunately, I didn't think to delete the chars, so at least they were still there when I started from scratch again.
     
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    Not so... when they trash the events you try run, fill the chat channels with lies and scam attempts - and bragging about their cheating (and no, ignore does not work because the damn list is so short you CANNOT get all the sods in there)- when your resource gatherers always lose out to the scripted bots..... so many other ways they spoil the entire environment of what is meant to be fun... you get left either modifying what you do to avoid things that are blatantly wrong but condoned by a worthless management of the game,, or walking away, because the concept of logging in to have what you do defined by a bunch of totally uncontrolled jerks is simply not acceptable. There is a great game, filled with really good people - spoiled by a policy of never enforcing any rules, never keeping the agreements between the players and the owners, and never, ever, doing anything to support the things that made it a great game.

    You tolerate that if you choose to, I have reached the point where I won't keep paying people to lie to me, and paying to be a target for the cowards who hide behind computer screens to spoil the enjoyment of others.
     
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    Mesanna sure seems to "misunderstand" a lot of the hard questions, so often that this rationalization has worn pretty thin.

    Notice how Rasesar Wej explained what he meant, yet she BSed about macroing and Supreeme.
     
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    If I'm paying for my accounts I'm damn well going to use them.
     
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    The game is meant to be fun. If youre not having fun and it becomes a chore then take the time to bank as much stuff as you can, just in case you have a change of heart, and then leave.

    When it all becomes a chore, an addiction, then its quite refreshing to give it up. And dont buy all the comments about how people always come back. They dont. For every one that regrets it and makes a return there are probably 10 who never even look back, and have no regrets. Thats why our player base has plummetted over the years. Most people dont come back.
     
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    It is sad that mesanna said herself they are allowing multiboxing...simply because theres no way to stop up due to the addition of the multiclient...its a shame because all events will get worse and worse as everyone thinks...sod this ... cant beat em ...join em....well end up with 50 players and 300+ chars...dohhhhhh....lag time anyone
     
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    UO is hanging on by a thread and the last thing they want to do is encourage players to close accounts down for multi boxing events. If they would revamp the EM system to a Global System and make it more of a quest type thing that could be done for a limited time period this would stop all the complaining of multi boxing at events. This would even solve the time issues of west coast players having to be on at odd times and also solve the drop issue...
     
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    What is Multiboxing? I stated playing UO again,been here since day 1 in '97. However,im on Chessy and not much going over there. Talk to someone and he said Atlantic is like what Chessy was back in the day. I went there and I noticed it had many more ppl playing. So im looking to transfer over there so I can hunt in large groups for spawns. Any advice? what is best way to go back and forth ,or do you know where I can buy a house in Atlantic shard?
     
  21. MalagAste

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    That's because Stratics is in cahoots with the DEV's.... if we sweep things under the carpet and refuse to talk about them or address them they will go away right?

    *rolls eyes*

    Sadly they will not go away..... you know what maybe all of us who don't cheat, multi-box, dupe, scam and all the other ills in this game should just leave... then they won't have anyone around to be bothered by it problem solved.

    Leave the greedy, cheaters to it.... and the rest of us can go find a game that does actually support their playerbase.

    Don't know what game that would be right now.... but I'm sure to find something. Just rather disgusted right now... I've waited years for a High Rez graphics update..... which sounds like I won't be getting EVER... I've waited just as long for an often hinted at Pet Update... Heard all kinds of things that sound really good.... but as far as "seen" ..... all I've seen is a whole lot of disappointment, let downs, excuses and very, very little else.

    They don't seem to care about helping to relieve the tedium, they don't care about the cheating and crap going on, they don't care about the griefing, they don't care about the graphics, they aren't interested in listening to the players, they don't seem to care about the lack of support... and honestly Mesanna can't do EVERYTHING. I shouldn't have to go to her to get account issues resolved... I shouldn't have to go to her to get something fixed that a GM should be able to fix... Do we even have GM's anymore??

    Things are getting worse and worse and what I'm hearing isn't making me want to keep throwing money at the game really... I suppose I should give up doing IDOC's..... I should give up doing EM events.... and I should give up caring about the game... or trying to bring anyone to it... So with 100's of new players playing from steam are they going to be excited to play a game that's full of multi-boxed scripters? I highly doubt it.

    And gods forbid they should try playing the EC with or without Pinco's since it's so full of bugs it's like a roach motel... And the graphics are horrible..... still have numerous issues with things not being seen in the EC.... and CC?!?! Yes lets add a bunch more folk to learn how easy it is to cheat in this game... oh and then tell them they have to pay some 3rd party to do 1/2 the stuff because most of them are going to want UOAssist if they go the classic route...

    I can't even begin to say how disappointed I am in this last meet and greet. Put the money where the mouth is..... SHOW me that they care. SHOW me that this game means something to them.... that's what I want. I'm tired of the run around.
     
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    All I ever see is whining and pancakes on Stratics about the devs..mind you its a small team and I often complain how things aren't done but let's go through this quick

    -you complain about
    -fix PvP
    -fix loot table
    - making all armor useable again
    ...just to start things off
    Devs add
    - VvV
    - a completely revamped loot table globally
    -lmc bonus, stam reduction
    Responses
    - omg VvV sucks scrap it
    - omg none of the things I kill give great loot
    - what about dragon armor

    ..see with such a small example of things no matter what or how they do things all you freaking people do is *****. Yes there are a few who are more interested in giving ideas and helping the systems implemented mature instead of decline but that's far and few between.

    So for all you complaining how you're quitting because of
    -no high res art(I feel bad cause that is needed)
    -no pet revamps(ok I guess)
    -multi-clienting (which has been going on for YEARS!)
    -lack of PVP content(im almost there with you)

    I have one of two messages for you..
    -quit your pancakes and start contributing to the idea poll and hope for the best
    -STFU quit and give me your stuff :)


    Final note: as for Stratics mods being in the devs pockets to enforce and rally their cause..LOL!

    The forum MOD nazis are long gone from before. The new mods are much more lenient and let conversations pan out and wait until it's actually against TOS. Not just closing threads or suspending account based on
    - someone arguing with their bestie friends
    - or because the thread irks them personally

    So @the new forum MODs.. Great job if I could I'd +1 you all!!

    And good riddance to their predecessors!


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    Paying customers have a right to challenge a company that takes their money and in return offers a sub par product and terrible customer service. UO is in an absolutely atrocious state and gets worse rather than better. As the "official" channels to EA/Broadsword are practically non existant or entirely ignored, these forums her are the only outlet for frustrated players to try (in vain mostly) to get their voices heard.



    I couldnt agree with you more.
     
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    -Multi-clienting? I do this all the time. MULTIBOXING? Maybe the devs could have enforced their own damn rules about it being illegal to use before it got this bad.
    -STFU and go get your own stuff :)
     
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    I may be wrong but I think the thread was deleted due do someone accusing and naming CERTAIN people on the forums and saying they are the ones cheating and that would take the thread in the wrong direction. It was already starting to violate tos

    Hopefully the same person/persons doesn't do that to this thread therefore maybe causing its fate as well
     
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    Major exaggeration. That's simply not what all players are doing, or even a significant portion.

    Join a big guild that has all types of players. Many people in this game are out there just looking to socialize, crafting, helping others with deco or general game play, etc.



    Right on, right on. The amount of people on these Stratics forums who ***** like little school girls over every small issue is truly a joke. No matter what the Developers do, no one on this forum will be satisfied and will continue the moaning and groaning.

    Everyone should be grateful this game has lasted as long as it has and that the developers are still active enough that they released a major publish relatively recently. The cheating/IDOC issues/multiple boxing/PVP complaints, so on and so forth, are really just not as much of an issue as all of you make it out to be.

    If you can't log into the game, and find some reason to smile and have a good time - then maybe it's you who should consider calling it "closing time" so as to not waste anymore of your "hard earned" <$13 a month.
     
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    Someone's class is showing...:gee:
     
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    I prefer someone's "honesty" is showing ;)

    ..but I could alter that a bit, to be a little more spot on.

    The "few" are gone.
    Not all but some were..

    Things like that would have been a bit more truthful, silly me for assuming it would be taken that way. With that said I could poll 10 Stratics users that have been here for years and 8 of 10 could say the few I am referring to..

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    They need a lot more events where everyone that shows up gets a prize, and sometimes something really cool. That would go a long way to making events seem a lot more fair in general.
     
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    I agree with this 100% there will always be people complaining about something no matter what they do
     
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    Multi-box has been here since year one,why quit over that. they are still paying for those extra accounts,so thats a good thing.But if you do quit can i have your stuff?
     
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    It's not even the items, I know I'm not going to receive something every time they drop at an event. That's common sense. But I would like a FAIR chance to receive them when they do drop. And a FAIR chance is gone when multiboxing is happening. The devs just don't understand this or choose to ignore it.
     
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    And for anyone asking for "my stuff". I have a rares museum on Sonoma, Ice island. Worth quite a bit in UO gold I think? If and when I go, it goes with me. :)
    Can we stop asking that ridiculous question now?
     
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    First it was fair to make it random drops. Now it's not and will be fair when multiboxing stops. What would be the next thing that made it fair after that didn't work?

    Plus some people take multiple tamers and just say all kill and stand back. They cant take that away and im sure its pretty easy to toss a few tamers on every shard for the same people at the events that you are all complaining about. Then would you complain about people taking a lot of tamers just to say all kill that gives the same results?
     
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    Personally I wouldn't want to see 100 more dragons there but like I said along time ago when lineman started his post rant about random drops.. There will only be more lag with more dragons there just like theres already more lag now from the multi chars
     
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    Some people act like the recent news of no new art update in trivial. This has been talked about for years the promising of new artwork for UO and only to be kicked to the side bc of the complexity/1 Artist. This is huge if you want to attract more players from steam IMO. I can only imagine when a new player from steam comes to play UO, he tries to buy something for a new character , 50,000,000 million gold for 1 piece! Go farm the best monster in the game and see how long if takes you to get 50M and this is another reason it will fail to attract players
    I also don't think stating the truth is pancakes but to each his own.

    On a side note my Stratics viewing has been much more pleasant after ignoring Goldberg you should try it lol
     
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    Real skill requirement for high end pets plus removing taming pinks would end the obnoxious dragon swarms real quick. ;)
     
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    LOL, I have Goldberg on ignore too. :D
     
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    honestly.. a user coming back or starting can easly farm equipment and toss out a piece as they go and make their suit better.. selling decent stuff for 500k and make money pretty quick.

    its cake to make mills.

    any new player on atl also has player base to steer them in the right direction.

    main issue for a new player i see is finding player base. mmainly because the uo pop is spread out over so many dead server.

    i know of a few people that started from scratch months ago and already have awesome suits skills and gold.
     
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    Be a shame for all that to vanish =(. Lots of UO there
     
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    I know a lot of tamers there that use real skill and id bet that people aren't gonna pay that much gold for that many taming pinks. I'm not sure what they go for nowadays but I'm sure its on up there. Even if people are making a lot at events I don't see them buying enough pinks to finish taming on what 2-6 maybe more chars PER shard. Personally I don't use taming jewls bc if you die and don't reequip it and spammed a few commands it could easily go wild. But if they did do away with using taming on items it would prolly lead to more complaints from the everyday average player that needs them. The never ending circle of complaining no matter what :p

    That's kinda like the idoc situation where they made it random they hurt the average player and helped the scripters. Unfortunately there's not really a lot they can do to hurt the scripters only and not the average player. Seems like everytime they try it backfires

    Tamers are prolly 1 of the cheapest chars to make
     
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    I'd much rather vote for getting rid of these artificial events altogether than getting rid of taming skills on jewelry
    Using jewelry to boost taming has always been part of the game design
    I can't say the same for "events" that end up spitting more 1B items into the already unbalanced economy and causing more greed and envy and complaining
     
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    Exactly! People complain uo makes a change it hurts another class of innocent people. Then people complain again. Eventually uo will get tired of hearing complaints about events and idocs they may take them out of the game altogether. Which I could live with or without either but could some of the real time collectors get threw there day without their fix? Or the people that enjoy idocs enjoy the game without the rush of the house falling?
     
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    I remember when taming was a real accomplishment in game to gm or 120 it... Now 25m can buy you 5 taming, mythic token start at 90. use skills on jewels ect.............
     
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    I think what changed is when everybody started getting 2-3 accounts. I worked up my first tamer from scratch - every 0.1 point from a tame - but when I started a tamer on a second account, I didn't see the need to spend the time doing it again, so she was born from a mythic token and nourished with jewelry. For those that have never built up the skills, yeah. they're missing quite a sense of accomplishment - but some people just don't seem interested in that.
     
  46. The Craftsman

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    yeah. it used to mean something but you can buy/twink it now.
     
  47. 4runnersport

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    I went threw the process of making my first tamers years ago the hard way as well. I wouldn't do it again but the 1 time was an experience for me. Myself and a lot of others just don't have that kinda time anymore. Most people on the game started years ago and are now adults with kids and jobs and when they get a little time to play wanna enjoy it
     
  48. belkins1

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    I have played with you many times on sonoma and you are a great player and are very nice! I would hate to see you go!

    I have played on sonoma since 98.. about as long as you off and on and have to say i feel the same way as you about the game... on sonoma when you do see people all you see is crap talking in gen chat about who is best pvp and how bad the other one sucks and putting people down..

    Sonoma is not what is used to be there is a few still left that enjoy playing together and helping others (KHV - PAS) but most are all gone or moved to another shard..
    Which maybe that is what we need to do to make the game more enjoyable to us again is meet new people and start kinda fresh on a new shard with different people and attitudes.
    That is what got me into this game was meeting new people, exploring the lands together, killing random monsters, and questing together.

    I used to enjoy the em events but all the cross sharders with multi boxing clients lagging me out, getting d/c, and so laggy where i cant even target the monster to attack is frustrating and just makes me not want to come to those events anymore.. which i have found most xsharders only come to the event with the drop (which is usually last event of the month) and most of the other events with the story they don't attend which is usually where you will find the players that follow the story line and still like to RP and actually enjoy the events.

    enough of my babbling... hope to continue see you in game!
     
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  49. Silentfury

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    This is so true. I used to occassionally get UO Burnout. When that happened, I'd take a month or 2 off. Then something during my day would trigger a thought about UO, and I'd hope back in happier than ever. I run an event on my server that helps new and returning players, and every week I hear stories of people wishing they had saved their stuff, or regretting letting their house fall. Some have been gone since AOS and one even as far back as 3rd Dawn. Don't make that mistake. Learn from these people.
     
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  50. Goldberg-Chessy

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    You have so many people on ignore in multiple channels that you cannot fit any more?
    Keeping agreements between players and owners? Huhza??
    That and the rest of your post sound like personal sensitivity issues that have nothing to do with the actual game :(
    How do your resource gatherers lose out though I am curious?
    You are at your keyboard trying to gather resources but are unable to because of what exactly?
    Unless you meant that you have issues with pixel economics and changing global resource markets due to the flood of scripted resources? That couldn't be though because that is just wackadoodle