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Is Stealing Gains Bugged

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Black Spirit, Jan 16, 2009.

  1. Black Spirit

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    My char is stuck on 90 stealing, and i have used a 120 scroll.
    In the last two weeks I have not received one guarenteed gain for each day ofter trying for 4 to 6 hours each day.
    I am doing all my training in fel and using a packy with the gold system.
    I had no problems until i reached 90 in skill.
    Is anyone else having the same problems as myself.
    And yes i have sent a bug report and paged a gm.
    Many thanks if someone can help me with this.
     
  2. Maggie

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    Are you targeting the specific pile of gold you want to steal or are you targeting the llama? You are probably aware the gains are based on the weight of the item, however when you just target your mark packie/player and not the specific item you have a much better chance of stealing regardless of the weight. At 90 I recommend something with 9 stones. I recommong checking smith menu to find something with proper weight cause i dont remember what I used.
     
  3. Black Spirit

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    I am targeting my packy, i have also used items with 10 weight in stones and still nothing. Thx
     
  4. Viper09

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    Steal dye tubs. That is how I got to 100 stealing a long time ago. Stealing piles of something does not really work as well as one item that weights X stones. Problem with piles, is that sometimes you will only get a certain amount of it when you want to steal the whole thing.

    So, take a look around, buy some junk from the city NPC's, and steal those. At 90 it is good to steal 9 stone items, but sometimes stealing 8 stone items and 10 stone items can help get the gains.

    Edit: Don't target the packy! Target the item specifically. Always the item specifically, never the packy.

    Also, check the thief forums. That's where all the thieves hangout. ;) Can get a lot of help their also
     
  5. Maggie

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    Exactly
     
  6. Viper09

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    Oh, and also. Make sure you have room to gain more skill :p
    Can be a simple and easily overlooked error that many of us have run into while training.

    *thinks back to hours of training cartography with no gains, getting frustrated, then realizing there was no room to gain and no skills were set to decrease*

    lol
     
  7. Black Spirit

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    Thank You for the replies, i have got several gains and i'm hoping to get to GM/120 in the near furture.
    Once again many thanks.
     
  8. Viper09

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    Anytime :)

    Always glad to help thieves.
     
  9. Here's part of the problem... the weights in the Stratics guide are too low. Move the weight up to 12-15 stones at your skill level and you will gain faster... and you don't need to target specific items that way, just random steal. Instead of using your skill divided by 10 to get the weight, add 3-5 stones to that. Also, when stealing gold after a while you only steal part of the stack... use armor and weapons instead.

    Also, I seem to gain faster with dungeon steals in Doom. Use jewelry to get to 115-120 and pick up all the small stuff. In about 15 minutes between yesterday and today, I went from 115 to 115.5 that way and got a couple nice level 8's to sell.
     
  10. MalagAste

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    I don't know what shard you steal on but on mine you're not likely to come across a level 8 anything to steal.... it's gone the instant it spawns.... usually by script.... Most I've ever gotten is a few baskets..... and the occasional urn from Tokuno Mines.

    Personally I stick to fel and steal from my beetle.... that way if anyone pops in on me I simply hop on the beetle and vanish.... have about 20 empty bottles and I gain just fine...
     
  11. RichDC

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    Same i have had no problem training from a packy,

    But then again i havent bothered going to 120...there really is not point, im at 90 and staying there.
     
  12. Warpig Inc

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    Re: Monster Stealing

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    Go to the walls of Brit Castle. All the barrels there have armor and weapons in them of a spread of weights. In the last few months they nerfed those a bit to have lil more and better spread of items. Wonder for years why those longswords with diffferent look and can't do nothing with where doing in the game. 1 stone weight I guess for those that can't buy up the skill I guess.

    Know if you have another account with mule miner.........you get a packhorse and recycle bags. Friend the packy between your thief and miner mule. Fill the bags with the stolen recyclable items. Standing above the forge/anvil location from above smith shop lets you recycle iron (in your house they can be located the floor above and still be used. good for those castles and keeps with little usable space). With a jeweled out thief at 120 can get about 1100 ingots and 200 leather recycling per lap. At 116 natural I get 1-3 gains per lap off items in my weight gain zone. The lighter stuff fills time and resource keg between gains timer.

    You'll find a few items with different weights but same article. One is the ringmail sleeves. Some spawns there are there for that good weight spread. Also good to have the mule there on a second computer to rez. Find yourself dieing often use Ctrl Shift to see if someone is shadowing you below spamming guards. Some players have nothing better to do and going on a smoke break stretches their attention span.

    I found my thief nearing 120s in skills and still at 33 STR. Over 100 stats points free and only STR set to gain. Reporting and paging is useless theese days so I deal with a wimp theif. Short of sitting behind and kicking the chair of the right person being payed for what I pay to play............noone has a clue. My only advise is when using a 7th character slot is make sure everything is working before wasting and time or gold/PS on a 7th slot. An outsourced GM from the other side of the planet best advise is to delete the character and start a new one. Not an answer...........have another bowl of curry.


    Play Smarter Not Harder
     
  13. RichDC

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    Ill be honest can someone explain why you would want 120 stealing anyway???

    Why not stop at 90?

    I did works awesome!!
     
  14. Well, for PvP stealing 90 works fine and dandy, but some arties (Doom comes to mind) require 120 stealing.
     
  15. 90 stealing works - then PBD on Shadow Dancer leggings and cbd on burglar's bandana = 120 stealing. Of course GETTING SDL can be expensive - that is why if your character has a Personal Bless Deed you use it on it :)
     
  16. This week alone I got the flowers (level 7), two large paintings (level 8), the hanging tunic (level 7), level 8 double sword display, the level 8 single sword display, and level 5 studded legs. I got the flowers, double sword display and one large painting on the same trip! That is by far the best and luckiest one week period I've had for dungeon steals.

    I am thinking the scripter that I was chasing for months is finally gone from my shard.
     
  17. My sorcerer's suit and my 1/3 with +11 stealing ring works nicely too! Before I got the sorcerer's suit though, I did just what you said.
     
  18. TheScoundrelRico

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    Near perfect town stealing...the guards are impressed with the 120 stealing real skill...la
     
  19. Warpig Inc

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    I have all the bells and whistles items in her suit. Before the custom skill Imbued ring and braclets sets I'm at 856 skills in her template. 150 skill max in a set will be a true crafters high point. Getting the crafters name on them will be the real issue.

    I lost one characters PBD in fel already if that fact makes you feel fuzzy. Even the CBD head gear is at risk. I shut down my naked stealth archer account so no need for fel outside the cities.
     
  20. Viper09

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    Well, let's see. You don't want to fail when stealing 10 stone items, you get caught a lot less, if you want any of the artifacts from doom, etc, you will see at least 100, and if you don't want to fail stealing them, 120. At 120 stealing I was able to steal a nice fancy 12 stone item and not get caught.

    At 90 you can barely steal 10 stone items, at 100 you would be lucky if you can even steal a 12 stone item. The higher the steal, the more and heavier items you can steal.

    Long story short, the question should be: Why stop at 90?! Why wouldn't you want 120 stealing?!

    I got 120 stealing and it works awesome!! A hell of a lot better than 90, even a hell of a lot better than 100.
     
  21. Petra Fyde

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    there's this too:
    Drop rate on stealables:

    • GM Stealing: 2%
    • 100.1 to 110 Stealing: 5%
    • 110.1 to 119.9 Stealing: 8%
    • 120.0 Stealing: 10%
     
  22. MalagAste

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    But at GM stealing I slap on a pair of shadow dancer leggings and I'm instant 120..... So I put those extra 20 points to other use
     
  23. Viper09

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    Likewise ;)